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Job-Creation Idea No. 12: Let The Old Folks Retire Early And Make Way For Young Workers

First Posted: 10/25/10 12:59 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:05 PM ET

Retirement

(No. 12 in Huffington Post's America Needs Jobs series.)

Looking ahead fearfully to something that may or may not be a problem decades from now, President Obama's deficit-obsessed fiscal commission is widely expected to recommend some form of reduction in Social Security expenditures in a few weeks, with the mostly likely scenario being a benefit cut disguised as an increase in the retirement age.

By contrast, looking realistically at the massive unemployment crisis facing the nation right this minute, University of Texas economist and outspoken progressive James Galbraith comes to precisely the opposite conclusion. He says it's time to lower the Social Security retirement age sharply for a few years, until the labor market rebalances itself.

"We've lost a huge number of jobs. No matter how effective a program we enact -- and the fact is we're going nowhere fast -- we're not going to recreate good jobs for everyone's who's lost them," Galbraith said. "So it makes sense to have some priorities."

Galbraith's priority is jobs for younger people who desperately want to work, made possible by retirement for older people who don't. "People who have good reason not to be in the labor force should be allowed to get out and should be allowed to get out gracefully," Galbraith told the Huffington Post.

Specifically, Galbraith is calling for a three-year window during which workers aged 62 and older could retire on full Social Security -- i.e. the same monthly benefit they would normally get if they retired at age 67. Right now, if you start your retirement benefits at 62, your monthly benefit is reduced about 30 percent -- for the rest of your life. That's a brutal disincentive to retiring early.

Older people who have already lost their jobs and are unlikely to find another would no longer have to continue in a "futile and debilitating search," Galbraith said.

And those who are still working but would rather not could retire and make way for a younger person who needs the job more than they do. Galbraith said that would be particularly attractive to people in physically demanding occupations. "Many of the people in those jobs would take the opportunity to get out, if they could afford it," he said.

There are two ways to reduce the unemployment rate. One is to reduce the labor pool; the other is to put people to work. This would do both.

Galbraith's idea is not exactly gathering political steam. There's no proposed legislation. Not even any buzz, really. But, he said, "it's something that I've found to be very popular in speaking to working audiences and it's common sense."

Essentially, it's a government-sponsored version of what a lot of private employers do on their own when they want to turn over the labor force: They offer people early retirement.

"We both can afford it and should do it," Galbraith said.

The affordability, of course, is a matter of debate. Some of the money would be a wash, with federal funding obligations simply shifting from unemployment insurance to Social Security. Similarly, many older unemployed people who have signed up for Social Security disability benefits would presumably shift to retirement benefits. In both cases, for the people involved, that would mean being able to move off of programs that are both stigmatized and uncertain.

But Teresa Ghilarducci, an economist at the New School in New York, concludes that Galbraith's proposal would be "very expensive."

Ghilarducci told HuffPost she supports the idea, because even though it would cost billions, that money would be very effective as stimulus for the economy. "Studies of the consumer expenditure patterns for the elderly on Social Security show that they spend a great deal of it," she said.

And on the plus side, it wouldn't be nearly as expensive as Galbraith's other idea -- which is to make Medicare available (at a cost) to workers as young as 55.

"The idea would be that if you are in your job only because you are desperate to hang on to health insurance, you have an affordable option to move into Medicare at a much earlier age," Galbraith said. "That would appeal to people who are in a medically difficult position."

But covering that population would be costly, and premiums would either have to be astronomical -- or heavily subsidized.

(Ghilarducci has an alternate idea, which is letting people to buy into Veterans Administration coverage in areas where there is lots of unused capacity, such as Detroit.)

There's something very humane about a policy that provides jobs for people who really want them, and an out for people who really don't.

But Ghilarducci warns that if it ever did get raised seriously, employers would be against it.

"Employers would hate it," she said. "The more people they have in the labor force, the less pressure there is on them to increase wages. Employers are upset -- but they are not upset about the unemployment rate. That's the balm."

She also cautioned that not every job vacated by an older person would necessarily get filled. Employers might instead continue trying to squeeze more productivity out of fewer workers. "In manufacturing, they're just downsizing," she said. "And the skills that the older people have when they leave may not be needed anymore"

Galbraith's proposal does stand in stark contrast with the rumored position of the fiscal commission. As he put it: "It provides a concrete alternative to the nonsense notion that we should be stretching out the work lives of older working Americans."

"The last thing you want is for young people who actually need those jobs to have four or five years more before they can find them," Galbraith said. And raising the retirement age would be particularly punishing to the elderly unemployed, he said, "forcing them therefore to scrounge for work longer than they otherwise would, as well as impoverishing them in their old age."

Ghilarducci asked of the commission's members: "Do they think the elderly unemployed can find jobs? Do they think American workers don't work long enough? That they should work longer?"


COMING NEXT IN THE AMERICA NEEDS JOBS SERIES: Serious Infrastructure Spending

Have you missed any of the previous installments of HuffPost's America Needs Jobs series? Read the introduction, Idea No. 1: A Payroll Tax Holiday, No. 2: Rescue The States, No. 3: The Joys Of Retrofitting, No. 4: Put Young People To Work, No. 5: Gearing Up For Climate Change, No. 6: Sharing The Pain Of Layoffs, No. 7: Drawing A Line With China, No. 8: Time For A New WPA, No. 9: Encourage Banks To Lend -- Or Else, No. 10: A Lower Dollar Would Level The Playing Field, and No. 11: Buy American -- If You Can.

Got an idea you think we may be overlooking? Email froomkin@huffingtonpost.com.


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(No. 12 in Huffington Post's America Needs Jobs series.) Looking ahead fearfully to something that may or may not be a problem decades from now, President Obama's deficit-obsessed fiscal commission i...
(No. 12 in Huffington Post's America Needs Jobs series.) Looking ahead fearfully to something that may or may not be a problem decades from now, President Obama's deficit-obsessed fiscal commission i...
 
 
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07:08 PM on 11/02/2010
In my husband's field there is rarely forced retirement, and so people who are basically coasting just keep coasting while the next generation in their 40's now waits for real jobs to open. People who have had gorgeous benefits and pay all of their lives are not going to just give them up, especially once they have enough seniority to dump lots of the work on other people.
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WSAY
Res ipsa loquitur
02:58 PM on 11/26/2010
What field is that?
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Eva fate
11:26 AM on 10/28/2010
as a younger person who's worked a lot of physical jobs, i think this is an excellent idea. I definitely know several people who had medical problems and very much wanted to retire.and the business i was in was primarily funded by older regular customers who were on social security. My mother was on disability for several years when i was in high school, and she managed to get by just fine. it can be done. and young people are the hardest hit by the recession. in my area, there is a prejudice against young people who've been unemployed or underemployed, people assume they are "lazy young people" and don't hire them if it's possible to hire anyone else. this would solve that problem and allow better lives for seniors in blue collar jobs they're beginning to hurt themselves to do because they have no other choice. what's not to like?
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GerryS
I WANT to pay $1 million per year in taxes, or mor
09:59 PM on 10/27/2010
what about me, 56 years old, health problems, no job for 3 years,

and now making about $12k per year??
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Eva fate
11:27 AM on 10/28/2010
the idea is that they wouldn't force you to retire, it would be there if you wanted to.
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Tom95134
12:33 PM on 10/27/2010
This would be a good idea except... companies have already been forcing "old folks" to retire early by offering very lucrative early retirement packages and then not replacing them. There is no benefit to this except it lowers the cost of the company's employees. Unless companies see some overwhelming reason to make job openings and replace retirees, just the simple fact that old folks are retiring isn't the answer.

One other factor comes into this. "Old Folks" that retire early often find that they after a period of time they want to go back to work (retirement can be boring). In some cases, they have to go back to work because they need the money to maintain a lifestyle. While in many cases retirees would make their services available to non-profit organizations, even non-profits are turning down volunteers because they don't have the staff to deal with too many volunteers.
11:21 AM on 10/27/2010
Wow! Typical progressive thinking. Don't improve the environment for a better economy, just make older people retire early. Unbelievable.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
11:17 AM on 10/29/2010
I agree with you!

Some people would have a bigger piece of the existing (shrinking) pie than create a bigger pie!
07:06 PM on 11/02/2010
Really? Is your pie too small? Honestly?
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WSAY
Res ipsa loquitur
03:01 PM on 11/26/2010
How you suggest we do that? Republicans have been shipping jobs overseas for years. So explain to us, how do we make that pie bigger? Or are you just another talker?
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WSAY
Res ipsa loquitur
03:00 PM on 11/26/2010
Wow! Typical fascist right wing thinking. Complain about things, but offer no solutions. Unbelievable.
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logicanada
Blogger, radio co-host, writer, editor, voice-over
10:58 AM on 10/27/2010
The article is based on the premise of want to work and need to work. When you strip away pensions or let them be stolen by greedy investment firms it makes the elderly NEED to work, not WANT to work. It's up to the young to get out and vote out those who would jeopardize their right to jobs and a future. And criticize the strikers in France all you want. At least they stand up to those who would steal their latter life earned comforts from them.
10:04 AM on 10/27/2010
Now, this is logic. So called conservatives get everything backwards.
07:15 AM on 10/27/2010
In the real world this won't work. Many retirees are returning back to work after SS COLA pay freezes & lost purchaing power due to inflation.
10:02 AM on 10/27/2010
Then why not fix those things?
01:21 AM on 10/27/2010
Uh, why not just end H-1B work visas? Why is our own government targeting certain jobs for wage suppressing work visa regulations? Why do Democrats, in particular, support wage suppression?
01:01 AM on 10/27/2010
It's one idea ... I prefer Robert Reich's ideas in his new book "Aftershock".

Reich want to invest in people, the first suggestion is a negative income
tax which would get rid of the welfare system and supplement people who
have low incomes.

Another idea was to have companies save money in a fund that pays
people when they get laid off. That would prevent companies from hiring
or laying off people frivolously.

Subsidizing health care and education would get people back on their
feet. This inaction of sitting and waiting to see people drop out is
disgusting and inhuman.

There are many good suggestions in that book, and a lot of back up
for what and why and how to get things back rolling again.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
11:19 AM on 10/29/2010
Will the Chinese and other wealth creating nations loan the USA enough of their money to pay for that?
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GerryS
I WANT to pay $1 million per year in taxes, or mor
09:45 PM on 10/26/2010
and what happens to people like me? 56 yrs old, out of work for 3 yrs----------

I now have a job that I might make $15k next year--------------------------------------
08:59 PM on 10/26/2010
I am unconvinced the numbers are there to make a meaningful impact (even if every position was replaced).

This Jobs problem has far reaching consequences and needs a "hammer on tack" solution. The economy will be stuck in this quagmire until jobs are fixed. Solutions: Think big. Make them impactful (linking any $ to jobs). Emphasize private sector.
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tbone99
cruisin' duality
04:19 PM on 10/26/2010
Wall St ate our retirement investments, the house is now worthless and unsellable and Obama's Deficiit Commision aided by the Congress is about to finish off SS. Oh yeah , and few Drs. are taking Medicare, while insurance companies are raising premiums.

Can't we just pass euthanasia ?
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VanessaFas
02:37 PM on 10/26/2010
I don't understand how everyone thinks Social Security money is going to be keeping them alive and afloat when they retire. If you do not save for your retirement, you will not be able to afford to retire. That's it. My husband and I want to retire by 55. And we are not counting on Social Security checks when we look at our future budget. When we retire, we realize that we will need to slash all spending. We will sell the house, and rent only, to avoid extremely high property taxes. We will have one car between the two of us, or none, if we can swing it. We will not buy books, newspapers, or magazines, we will spend time at the library or online, like we do now. We will buy clothes and shoes at thrift stores, like we do now. We will eat out only a few times a year, like we do now. We will not make excuses for owning Tivo, DVR, cell phones, and other gadgets that isolate and alienate.


But most importantly, we will not blame the government and Social Security when it is US that is really responsible for our lives, our futures.
04:58 PM on 10/26/2010
Everone is of course responsible for their own lives...so long as they have equal access to provide for themselves, and not beholdent to forces beyond their planning...greed, etc...its all about a level playing field...and then if thats so, well, responsibility rests with the individual.
09:07 PM on 10/26/2010
applaud your thriftiness. SS was never intended to be the only source of retirement funding. (and I won't go one about the stupidity of a pay as you go system as opposed to fully invested system). 55 is much younger than most are prepared to retire (I know). Pity those that leave the work force for early retirement and get bored. I imagine getting rehired can be a bit problematic. Also means retirement investments need to be more productive. After correction in the markets (securities and housing), this has created a bit of timing problem for many. No DVR?
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fbs
01:12 PM on 10/26/2010
Maybe we'll really start taking this problem seriously when the education bubble bursts.
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laborgrunt
01:32 PM on 10/26/2010
What is the education bubble?
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fbs
03:18 PM on 10/26/2010
No jobs means no way to pay back student debt.
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NYCBri
11:56 AM on 10/27/2010
student loans.