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MLB Players' Union Open To Expanding Playoffs In Two Years

RONALD BLUM   10/26/10 10:13 PM ET   AP

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SAN FRANCISCO — Baseball's playoffs could be expanding in two years.

The new head of the players' union says his members are open to adding more wild-card teams for 2012 and possibly extending the division series to a best-of-seven.

Union head Michael Weiner says it's also possible players would agree to cutting the regular season from 162 games, but that's more problematic because it would cost teams revenue.

"There is sentiment among a substantial segment of the players to consider expanding the playoffs," Weiner said Monday in an interview with The Associated Press ahead of his first World Series since replacing Donald Fehr as union head.

Eight of 30 baseball teams make the playoffs under the format that began in 1995, a year later than intended because of a strike that wiped out the postseason in '94.

Baseball commissioner Bud Selig appears to be increasingly in favor of proposing more playoff teams during collective bargaining with the union next year, which will determine the postseason format for 2012 and beyond.

"We have less teams than any other sport," he said last month. "We certainly haven't abused anything."

In the NFL, 12 of 32 teams make the playoffs. In the NBA and NHL, 16 of 30 teams advance to the postseason.

The first round series have been best-of-five since they began. It's possible they could follow the path of the league championship series, which began as best-of-five in 1969, then expanded to best-of-seven in 1985.

"There are some players who have expressed an interest in that, as well," Weiner said. "Obviously, you've got to look at everything together. But I think we can have a very healthy discussion with the commissioner's office when bargaining begins about these issues."

Weiner said the union likely would generate a consensus on its playoff stance during its annual executive board meeting in December. Bargaining is likely to start in the first half of the year on the labor contract to replace the one expiring on Dec. 11, 2011.

Only minor tinkering with the playoffs is possible for next October.

"We've been talking about a revised schedule in 2011 that would be a compressed schedule for postseason play," he said. "The structure for playoffs in 2011 will be the same as it's been throughout this contract."

The regular season expanded from 154 games to 162 in the American League in 1961 and the National League a year later, when each of those circuits went from eight to 10 teams.

"Certainly some of the players have said either we should shorten the regular season because the regular season's too long, or we should shorten the regular season to accommodate expanded postseason," Weiner said, adding that would have "revenue implications for the industry."

"That is one of the ideas that they are kicking around. But having said that, we understand that a proposal to reduce the length of the regular season will be viewed one way by the owners as opposed to a proposal to expand or modify the structure of the postseason."

Not all players are in favor of a longer postseason.

"Personally, I like the system the way it is," San Francisco Giants outfielder Aaron Rowand said as he prepared for Wednesday night's World Series opener against the Texas Rangers. "I think just the one wild card team from each league. If you're in a division where you've got a team running away with it, it gives all those other teams hope of something to play for throughout the course of the season."

Through 1968, there were no divisions and the team with the best regular-season record in each league advanced to the World Series.

Giants reliever Jeremy Affeldt is concerned that adding wild-card teams or increasing the length of the division series would make a long season even longer.

"If they're going to do that, they need to shorten the season then. That's a lot of games and that's a long time. Even in the playoffs now we're going potentially to Nov. 5," he said. "Sometimes they think we're just robots, but you've got to think of potential injuries. On pitchers, that's a lot of throwing. Position players, some play every game all year. It just takes a toll on the body. If they're going to do that, they've got to think a lot about the ramifications."

Texas manager Ron Washington thinks adding playoff teams is a good idea.

"It just gives a team an opportunity to get to the playoffs," he said. "It doesn't matter what's your record once you get to the playoffs. It usually comes down to who's playing the best baseball at the time."

However, Rangers outfielder Jeff Francoeur considers himself a traditionalist.

"I don't like adding another wild card," he said Tuesday. "I think that's what's so cool, so special about baseball, is that you only have eight teams that go."

On other topics:

_Weiner said the advanced dates for free agency this offseason were a test for future offseasons. "Both sides will have a chance to evaluate them and when we begin bargaining, presumably sometime in the early part of 2011, we'll have a season of that under our belt."

_While the union chose not to pursue collusion grievances following the past two offseasons, "Some players obviously continue to be concerned about how the free-agent market has operated. We're considering additional proposals concerning the free-agent market."

_Players may propose changes to salary arbitration eligibility, which has been basically unchanged since 1990. "Obviously players have seen the Super 2 cutoff become – to a certain extent it's become predictable," he said. "Other players say independent of that we think it's time to revisit the question of salary arbitration eligibility in general."

_Players hope the September decision by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals that the federal government illegally seized the 2003 drug survey test records and samples will be the end of the matter. The government has until December to ask the Supreme Court to review the case. "Obviously we are pleased with what the court did, and we hope this puts an end to the litigation and that would allow the union and the commissioner's office to be able to honor the promise that was made to all the players who were tested in 2003," he said. "I hope we can look back on 2010 and say that was the year that this litigation ended. Obviously, that remains to be seen."

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AP Baseball Writer Janie McCauley contributed to this report.

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Lisse Kono
ignorance is bad, willful ignorance is dangerous!
09:59 PM on 10/28/2010
"We have less teams than any other sport," he said last month......

but you have one of the LONGEST seasons in Sports right now (right after basketball!!!)

I would love to see the season shortened.... pmore playoff?? fine, as long as all the play-off games are played in SEPTEMBER!!!!!!...and October is only for the division series and the world series per-se......
01:46 PM on 10/28/2010
For the pennant races to make any rational sense, balanced schedules need to return.
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No Inter-League play in the regular season.
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Return the All-Star game to its proper place as a pure exhibition.
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Keep the post-season as is, but with a 7-game first round.
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Play some doubleheaders; that's why you have 25 guys on a team.
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As an "out-thre" idea, I would love to see baseball adopt the system used in many countries for "futbol". The bottom two teams in each league have to go to AAA the next season and try to earn their way up. The four best AAA teams move up to the majors. This would incentivize teams like Pittsburgh to focus less on profit and more on winning. Or better said it would enforce the idea that if you want to stay in the big leagues, you have to try to be at least decent. And it would add excitement at the bottom of the pennant races.
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FIRE SELIG!!
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NevadaLib
pwning cons since 2007
12:45 PM on 10/28/2010
Bud Selig hates baseball. More wildcard teams? why not just give trophies to everybody. Extending the playoffs would generate more revenue but at the expense of good games. These players goes through a lot, and expanding the playoffs would require 40 man rosters for the post season. its a terrible idea. if anything, extend the regular season a few games.
Sandmanj
Tread gently. Mother nature is pregnant.
01:44 AM on 10/28/2010
Where's the World Series coverage???
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05:44 PM on 10/27/2010
Bud's wrong. I'd go in the other direction. I would take the 3 division winners, have the team with the best record sit out the first round and let the two others play a one or three game playoff (in 1951 the Dodgers/Giants were 3 games). The winner of that round plays a 3 game series against the team with the best regular season record. Make winning the division mean something. This year the Yankees and the Rays would have had a neck and neck race - as it was, though, the Yanks were managed and played as if the wild card was good enough. It ruined the end of the season as far as the AL East was concerned.
Besides, if Bud had stepped down as he was supposed to do, W would have become Commissioner and not president. Blame it on Bud. Oh, yeah, he also thinks Yankee Stadium prices are reasonable.
What a hack.
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John DeCock
05:06 PM on 10/27/2010
Bud Selig never met a bad idea he didn't like. If it's all about television money, then why don't we have a separate league with corporate names play for their own extended championship and leave baseball alone. I'm sure lot's of people would be happy to cheer on the Budweiser Couch Potatos VS. The McDonald's Heart Attacks. Then real baseball teams could quietly end their seasons in October with games between champions.
04:54 PM on 10/27/2010
In a few years, sounds like I'll have to choose between watching football or the World Series on Thanksgiving.
03:48 PM on 10/27/2010
Make the division series 7 games, but that's the only change we need. As a Padres fan, I could have definitely appreciated an additional wild card berth this season... but objectively speaking it would just dilute things too much.

If they DID add wild card berths, they would almost certainly have to shorten the season. More playoff teams = less need for an extended season. Plus there would be time constraint issues, and like Affeldt said, it would make an already long season even longer.
02:32 PM on 10/27/2010
The umps better get a sturdier brush to clear the snow off home plate.
01:31 PM on 10/27/2010
Stupid move. Fire Selig already.
04:54 PM on 10/27/2010
YES! God yes.
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Sansculotte
I never did like Tea
01:18 PM on 10/27/2010
You've GOT to be kidding me.
Today is October 27th - TWENTY-SEVENTH ! And we're just now playing game 1 of the World Series?
And you want to *expand* the playoffs?
Can Xmas baseball be far behind?
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rabprevent
We have extremists amongst us
12:22 PM on 10/27/2010
Cut the baseball season to 152 games but do not increase the number of playoff teams, more teams should earn the right to play on post season as oppose to just getting in for getting by in the regular season.

Think of the current circumstances now in the American League East, The Yankees, Red Sox and Tampa Bays would all be in the playoffs since they have had the best records for the most part and play inthe toughest division in baseball in general assuming that you would have to change how teams get into the playoffs
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Sansculotte
I never did like Tea
01:21 PM on 10/27/2010
We could keep the 162 game schedule and easily complete all playoffs in October with one simple tweek; bring back the double-header.
If each team play three double-headers a year you could save at least a week.
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rabprevent
We have extremists amongst us
01:25 PM on 10/27/2010
That is an interesting name "Sansculotte". I speak french and I am wondering where and how did you come up with that name.

No owner is ever going to want to play a double header during the playoffs, the argument for 162 could be made using the double header during the regular season but not the playoffs.
11:52 AM on 10/27/2010
Bad idea. Don't become like the NBA which has way too many playoff series. 8 teams is just right. Any more and you're seriously diluting the accomplishments of the teams who persevered down the stretch to win their division. Expanding the first round to best-of-7 might be good.
10:52 AM on 10/27/2010
EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT THEY SHOULD BE DOING ! ! !

Just wait until you see the World Series ratings, and you will think twice.

Baseball needs to SHORTEN THE SEASON by at least a dozen games, install more automated systems for calling balls, strikes, and close outs (the umpires are WRONG OVER 20% of the time, and if you don't believe me, watch ANY game on TBS, (NOT Fox because they don't use the little graphic in the lower right hand corner), and you will see the horrible jobs the umps do on balls and strikes.

Haven't been to a game since 2002 and will never go back. Got tired of the drunks and filthy mouths . . . .

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jl4141
Master of weapons of mouse destruction
10:20 AM on 10/27/2010
The Commissioner's Office shouldn't agree to anything if the Player's Union doesn't agree to scrap the DH.
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AliveInNYC
Actually in DC now but still fighting the fight
01:23 PM on 10/27/2010
I grew up in an A.L. town with the DH so I'm used to it. My feeling is either have the dh in both leagues or not at all. No other sport has different sets of ruls. Imagine if the AFC suddenly decided that a first down was 15 yards while the NFC stayed with 10.