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Bill Gates, Sr., Promotes 'Robin Hood' Tax On Washington's Wealthy (VIDEO)

First Posted: 10/28/10 11:20 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:10 PM ET

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Bill Gates, Sr., the father of Microsoft billionaire Bill Gates, is trumpeting a new state income tax in Washington for individuals who earn more than $200,000 a year or couples who earn more than $400,000 to benefit the state's public education and health systems.

The initiative, I-1098, would impose a personal income tax of up to nine percent on Washington's highest earners, but cut property and business taxes for small firms and homeowners. Washington is currently one of seven states with no personal income tax and the state has a history of strong public opposition to taxes.

Gates, who donated $600,000 in support of the measure, told reporters in a conference call on Wednesday that the tax would provide a "vital investment" of about $2 billion in Washington's underfunded public schools and health care facilities.

"It's a proposal to reform Washington state's tax code, which is ranked dead last in terms of basic fairness," he said.

Seattle venture capitalist Nick Hanauer, an early investor in Amazon.com and founder of aQuantive, joins Gates in supporting the initiative.

"Bottom line, this is a moral issue about fairness and whether as a society we want to face the need and put our money where our mouth is," he said. "This is not an onerous tax. It is simply a way of getting the lucky citizens in the state to contribute, not in proportion to others, but something to the state that benefits them."

Opponents of 1098, including Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer and co-founder Paul Allen, have argued that the initiative would drive entrepreneurs out of Seattle and further damage the job market. Economist Arthur Laffer, who became influential under the Reagan Administration, wrote in an Oct. 5 article for the Wall Street Journal that the tax would merely "punish the rich for their success."

"Those states with the highest tax rates, and those states that have introduced state income taxes, have seen standards of living (personal income per capita) substantially underperform compared to their no-tax counterparts," Laffer wrote. "If Mr. Gates Sr. and his son feel so strongly about taxing the rich, they should simply give the state a chunk of their own money and be done with it. Leave the rest of Washington's taxpayers alone."

Mr. Gates countered Laffer's argument by pointing out that despite a tough economy, all of Washington's citizens have a personal stake in the quality of the state's schools.

"Things are in a bad state and people are feeling some pessimism ... it may be in many cases it would influence them to vote 'no,'" he said. "On the other hand, I think the people in this state are anxious to have the best possible public education system, so that would influence them to go ahead and give approval to 1098."

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Bill Gates, Sr., the father of Microsoft billionaire Bill Gates, is trumpeting a new state income tax in Washington for individuals who earn more than $200,000 a year or couples who earn more than $40...
Bill Gates, Sr., the father of Microsoft billionaire Bill Gates, is trumpeting a new state income tax in Washington for individuals who earn more than $200,000 a year or couples who earn more than $40...
 
 
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08:02 AM on 11/01/2010
"This is not an onerous tax. It is simply a way of getting the lucky citizens in the state to contribute, not in proportion to others, but something to the state that benefits them."

This is another one of those messages that just gets repeated enough until it's assumed to be true. For most people, it's not luck that caused them to one day wake up rich. It's ingenuity, a smart business sense, and sacrifice.
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ltague
gun makers have no shame,no soul,no family values
08:34 AM on 11/01/2010
And plenty of middle class workers to do the actual work!
08:50 AM on 11/01/2010
Oh, please. As if the "rich" owner of the company you work for didn't do anything to actually earn his place.
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AuldLochinvar
02:15 PM on 11/05/2010
Rubbish! Inherited advantages are big advantages. Most other fortunes are due to luck.
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jabailo
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03:59 PM on 10/31/2010
What Gates has done is hidden a property tax cut, that would benefit the largest asset holders, inside a faux-populist income tax -- which is destined to trickle down to the poor and middle classes.

What he doesn't want you to know is that Washington State has hugely unfair property tax laws -- where long timers pay next to nothing for estates, while new immigrations and residents pay high taxes on their regular sized homes.
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01:32 PM on 10/30/2010
Warren Buffet also said he should be taxed more. These grand ole guys know that in order for America or any country to thrive we need money in the system. Taking out too much, in the long run, will hurt the wealthy as well as the average American.
08:11 AM on 11/01/2010
Yes, but you also shouldn't feed the beast. I see no ideas from the Democrats that reduce the size and scope of the government. I'm going to assume then by constantly working for tax increases that they want to further increase the size and scope of government. Our economy has a government problem. There's too much of it.
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ltague
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08:50 AM on 11/01/2010
Money into the system, via taxes, goes right back out to the people, repairing infrastructures, better education systems, cleaning up toxic dump sites, and on & on; all things that now cost us more than they would have before because they were neglected by Republicans in office who naively thought that the private companies actually care. Or maybe they weren't naive; they just didn't care enough about America's future once THEY left office.
08:01 AM on 11/04/2010
RageCage: Reduce spending on military by 50% is a top priority for you?
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ltague
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12:20 PM on 10/30/2010
Bill Gates, Sr., you're a good man ! Thank you for speaking up.
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jabailo
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04:03 PM on 10/31/2010
Senior has taken years of goodwill towards the family, and turned it into a negative.

Now everyone is up in arms at 1098 -- a tax on the Middle Class.

Microsoft, Amazon and other area business are campaigning against 1098.
09:54 PM on 10/31/2010
This is a tax against the Middle Class??? So you think the Middle Class earns more than $200K (individual) or over $400K (family) a year?
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03:26 AM on 10/30/2010
I love the gates Family! They totally get it. I need to work for Microsoft.
02:39 AM on 10/30/2010
The No on 1098 is a textbook campaign in how to get people to vote against their best interests by obfuscating the issue. They have got voters so focused on a technically-possible, but politically suicidal extension of the income tax to all taxpayers that people are overlooking the reality of a huge state budget deficit. The legislature is going to have to raise revenue from somewhere,it's just a question of who is going to pay. 1098 is the only hope all the tax/fee increases won't fall on the middle class.
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04:05 PM on 10/31/2010
WA state residents pay property taxes that are something like 25 percent of what New York and New Jersey state residents pay...yet they demand premium government and transit services.

Also, after 20 years of population growth and covenants that restrict property tax increases, the taxes are unfairly applied.

Meanwhile, those who benefit from the inequitable situation want to tax the most productive people.

1098 exposed the gross inequities in Washington State.

Vote NO on 1098.
12:01 AM on 10/30/2010
Just pay ALL your income to the Government, and leave me out of it!!
09:48 PM on 10/29/2010
Gates, be a leader. If you want your taxes increased, just pay more in. It is not hard. IRS takes cash, check, money orders, and credit cards (I believe).

I propose the following. Democrats pay 85% taxes, Republicans 25%, and Conservatives 9%.
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10:50 PM on 10/29/2010
Fanned and Fav...You said it
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ltague
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12:28 PM on 10/30/2010
You, sir, have a serious problem.
08:06 AM on 11/01/2010
Why does he have a problem? If paying more taxes makes them "good Americans" why have guys like Gates, Sr. or Joe "paying taxes is patriotic" Biden voluntarily paid more than what the IRS is asking?
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05:15 PM on 10/29/2010
I just voted "yes" on 1098 via our all mail in ballots in Washington state. Thank you, Mr. Gates Sr. for proving getting rich doesn't have to mean becoming a bad citizen.
08:03 AM on 11/01/2010
True, but being a "good citizen" - whatever that actually means - shouldn't be forced on you by your neighbors.
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ltague
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08:30 AM on 11/01/2010
Tell that to the Tea Party!
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Tulka2
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01:46 PM on 11/01/2010
What does that mean....? Does it mean you think you get to live in the United States of America, enjoy all the infrastructure and benefits and not pay taxes....? Does it mean you think taxes should not be structured progressively? Do you know what that last sentence means? "Give unto Caesar the things that are Caesar's" is up there with the best advice ever given regarding taxes. It means be a good citizen.
10:47 AM on 10/29/2010
Gates has no problem saying this of course because he has more money than God.
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Tulka2
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05:17 PM on 10/29/2010
Did you read it? I am from WA. State. 1098 would only apply to the top 1.2 citizens in this state. This is a wonderful place to live. If the rich want to leave because they will have to pay a few taxes, i say, "Bye, bye, don't let the door hit you on your way out."
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ltague
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12:32 PM on 10/30/2010
I'm thinking the top 2% of our Americans have more money than God & do much less with it than He would.
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10:31 AM on 10/29/2010
It's that "punish the rich" statement that really makes one tear up. Can't think of a comment more
pitiful that that one.
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AuldLochinvar
02:26 PM on 11/05/2010
We're not talking punishment. Just fairness. If you make 1000 times what a farm worker does, how do you claim that your effort justifies it?
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01:47 AM on 10/29/2010
I don't know the first thing about Mr. Gates, Sr. but this one thing alone makes him a hero.

It takes guts to buck the entrenched system - especially when it would have been so easy to stay silent and enjoy being a beneficiary of the status quo.

Heroes come in all stripes and flavors.

Even the rich.
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Tulka2
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05:20 PM on 10/29/2010
He is a wonderful man. He fights for estate taxes too. It was his savvy as a lawyer, btw, that insured his son would be a rich man. When the young Bill brought home his contract from IBM to have his lawyer dad look it over before he signed it....? Bill Senior crossed out the line that said all intellectual property from Bill Junior's time at IBM would belong to the corporation. When Bill junior left IBM, he took the software he designed with him. I love that story.
10:06 PM on 10/28/2010
To all these people that want the tax increase, I say Go Ahead! U don't have to wait for the increase. Just go ahead and send ur additional $$s to the IRS now.
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10:55 PM on 10/28/2010
my thoughts exactly!!!!
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02:44 AM on 10/29/2010
Its not going to the IRS, it goes to the State, to be used for the State run Public Education and State run Public Health care systems. Two things you tea baggers are supose to believe in.

Right now, in Washington State. someone that makes mini-wage pays 17% of their wages on State Sales Taxes were as someone that makes 2oo'k a year pays less than 2% of theirs on those same State Sales taxes. You really think thats fair or just? Do you really think that it is better for the State of Washington to rely so heavily on the poor and lower middle class to pay in, labor and taxes, to support the whole State? Come on. The free ride for the rich in that State needs to end.
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08:14 PM on 10/28/2010
There really is a great political and cultural divide in America. Those who feel they are part of a shared community and want to be versus those who feel we are a nation of individuals each beholden to no one but ourselves and in healthy competition with our neighbors.
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Isn't it sad...?
08:29 PM on 10/28/2010
I believe the latter is the dictionary definition of selfishness...
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ClareP
11:40 PM on 10/28/2010
The latter is the definition of those who are deluded. try to live without the input of your community, and only in "healthy competition." You won't last long at all. It's a very good "healthy" exercise to actually enumerate all those things you get from other people and depend on other people for. Try it sometime-- it may well be eye-opening.
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AuldLochinvar
02:30 PM on 11/05/2010
Have you noticed that the very popular TV "survivor" series follow Hobbes's model of the maximally dysfunctional society? The war of every one against all others! That is exactly what oligopolies do.
08:10 PM on 10/28/2010
Now, there's a man I can respect! Good for you, Pops! And blessings on you and yours. :)