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Woman FIRED From Temp Job For Having Poor Credit

First Posted: 10/29/10 05:16 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:10 PM ET

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Kristin Meaux, 36, of Seattle, Washington.

Four weeks after starting a temporary accounting position at Seattle Bank, Kristin Meaux, 36, says she received a call from the human resources director informing her that the bank had mistakenly forgotten to run a credit check on her before allowing her to work there. Meaux says she agreed to a new credit check, but explained to the bank that she had been laid off from her last full-time job in March 2008 and was still trying to pay off several medical bills from a few pregnancy complications that cropped up after she lost her health insurance.

When the results of the credit report came in several days later, Meaux says she was promptly fired and escorted off the premises.

"The CFO of the bank told me that a person under my financial pressure and with my access to the general ledger could move money around to cover my financial debt," Meaux told HuffPost.  "I was escorted off the premises, not even allowed to use the restroom. I'm not a thief, but I've never felt more like a thief in my life."

Meaux says she was dropped from the Robert Half International temp agency soon after, since the $60,000 debt she had accumulated while unemployed had made it nearly impossible for them to place her in accounting jobs. (Seattle Bank and Robert Half International both declined to comment on the story.)

"Before 2008, I had stellar credit, because I worked very hard to try to maintain it," Meaux said. "Now I've lost my house, I've lost everything, and I'm living in my sister's basement trying to pick up the pieces of my life. How am I supposed to do that without a job?"

For many longterm unemployed Americans, the credit situation is a Catch-22: they can't land a decent-paying job due to their poor credit, and they can't improve their credit without a decent-paying job. According to a Fair, Isaac and Company (FICO) report, as of April 2010, more than 25 percent of American consumers had "very bad" credit scores below 599, up from 15 percent before the recession. FICO reported that 75 million Americans had credit scores below 700 as of April, which they deem a "moderate" credit score--still not optimal for jobs in the financial sector.

While there is a bill pending in Congress that would prohibit the use of credit checks against current and prospective employees for the purpose of "making adverse employment decisions," Truth-Out.org reports that it has been stalled since July 2009 due to the intense lobbying efforts of the three major credit bureaus and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.), the primary sponsor of H.R. 3149, told HuffPost that he doesn't know whether the bill will make it out of the Financial Services Committee this Fall, but that he plans to continue fighting for it on behalf of his unemployed constituents.

"A lot of people in my district, where unemployment's about 9.8 percent, are having trouble finding jobs because of credit checks, and it has nothing to do with their ability to perform the job," Cohen said. "They've been laid off because of the economy, they're good employees, and they're honest people. You know, Bernie Madoff had a great credit check but he wasn't an honest person. I don't know what credit checks indicate, but it's not honesty."

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Four weeks after starting a temporary accounting position at Seattle Bank, Kristin Meaux, 36, says she received a call from the human resources director informing her that the bank had mistakenly forg...
Four weeks after starting a temporary accounting position at Seattle Bank, Kristin Meaux, 36, says she received a call from the human resources director informing her that the bank had mistakenly forg...
 
 
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07:15 PM on 11/18/2010
This is Ironically hilarious because Robert Story (pre bank failure CEO) is setting records for the most corrupt and idodic banking thief there is. He has stolen Millions from Investors, Developers, AND their own bank employees & executives. (Check out who is suing them). So they fire an honest accountant for bad credit.. They should fired and Jail their own CEO and put the fired temp in charge. She would probably do a better job & certainly be far more honest.
11:48 PM on 11/18/2010
You must know him well. If most of the executive staff of Seattle Bank don't end up in prison at some point, there is clearly some kind of conspiracy in play. They all deserve whatever they get. What is truly ironic is that Story was, until just recently, the chairman of the Mortgage Bankers Association.
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maigrey
No GUT no glory!
06:00 AM on 11/09/2010
I have no credit. I own it or I don't real freaking simple. I had great credit until 11 years ago. Long story made short even if you have medical insurance you can still end up bankrupt. So I never rebuilt my credit because the respectable banks had begun raising the interest rates so high that it was making the mafia blush. So I save money buy what I need and carry on. Now I'm being punished for years of no loans and now unemployed. Guido and the mafia is starting to look sane compared to what is legal.
06:15 PM on 11/02/2010
I'm convinced that the recent stories about employers specifically stating that they won't hire those who are currently unemployed have to do with the whole credit check situation. The unemployed have a higher chance of having bad credit and if an employer is going to have to pay for the check, they want to make sure that there is a higher chance of someone passing, thereby reducing their hiring costs.

The whole situation is disgusting. A background check looking into whether or not someone has a record for theft would be a far better indicator as to trustworthiness, not a credit check when so many people are seriously suffering and they are barely hanging on by a thread.
03:26 PM on 11/04/2010
It's true but not new. It happened to me back in 1997. I wasn't even given the job because the explanation was that how can customers have faith in a financial institution when their employees are not financially solvent? I felt it was discriminatory then but there was nothing I could do about it. My crime: graduate school and being late on bills because when I came out of graduate school I couldn't get a job in my field for almost 2 years. I couldn't get a job period. And when I got a temp assignment, it didn't pay enough for me to survive on and move out of my mother's house. It was crazy. These employers need to stop finding ways to discriminate against people who are smart and want to work (hard) for a living.
04:43 PM on 11/04/2010
brownin329, I couldn't agree more. BTW, how do the financial institution's customers know the financial situation of those who work there - that's just BS and a part response to a valid question.

Sometimes people have circumstances that happen to negatively affect their credit and it shouldn't define who they are.
05:49 PM on 11/02/2010
I can understand certain jobs requiring good credit but perhaps this is no longer a reliable measure of how trustworthy an employee is... maybe it never was.

With over 15 million people unemployed and many no longer eligible for unemployment and entering the welfare rolls, credit is going to be shot. Not because they aren't trustworthy but because they were victims of the economic downturn and lost their jobs.

Perhaps this should be stopped until which time there are enough jobs and people can be fairly judged. Yes, there are deadbeats out there but the unemployed just keep getting kicked in the teeth for something that is NOT THEIR FAULT!

Funny how the little guy get's penalized but those who created this mess are just fine and probably are "credit worthy".
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06:33 AM on 11/02/2010
The tea party has it wrong this what can and will cause a revolution!! Sooner or later if those types
of activities continue we will see the total destruction of what used to be our country. Indeed that's one of the out crops of debters prisons was in France. Oh well the pushing of the public in America seams to have no affect at all and today we will see how asleep the sheep realty are,
Vote ,Vote, Vote for the Dems the picture is bleak
12:32 AM on 11/02/2010
If credit scores are such a serious issue when one is hired, does the bank also conduct credit checks of all its employees on a regular basis? Just curious. Unless they're implementing a minimum acceptable credit score to retain employment, then credit scores used not to hire are discriminatory.
03:27 PM on 11/04/2010
credit score has nothing to do with whether or not you can do a job. THAT is the discriminatory issue.
10:40 PM on 11/01/2010
Ms Meaux, What happened to you is completely wrong. What makes it wrong is that you didn't do anything wrong. Banks are to put it bluntly rat bastards. You aren't a thief, if you'd been convicted of theft you shouldn't ever work at a bank period but a bad credit score can happen to anyone. We live in a world without safety nets. I have a friend who worked in accounting the samething happened to her she's now a teacher. So there are jobs out there hang tough.
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angrymanspokane
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07:13 PM on 11/01/2010
She's seen as a possible theft risk. Think about it, would YOU hire an accountant to handle your personal finances who is deeply in debt and/or has declared bankruptsy?.
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MiddleMolly
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07:59 PM on 11/01/2010
I would have no way of knowing whether I, as a small business owner, engaged an accountant who had poor credit or had filed for bankruptcy. I would have to make such an engagement based on references from people that I knew and trusted. And an accountant would have much greater opportunity to embezzle or commit fraud than someone working in a modern bank with competent audit procedures.

There is absoutely no statistic, no study, not one, that shows any connection between poor credit and poor performance or embezzlement. She is not a theft risk unless she has a criminal history of theft.. which she does not. The only study on this subject shows that people who are more than 30 days behind on their bills tend to perform better than people with better payment records... Makes sense, doesn't it? If you are an honest person and have debts, you will work harder to pay them off.
12:34 AM on 11/02/2010
Do they fire employees whose credit scores are unacceptable or who declare bankruptcy after they're hired, too?
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smartdog
04:31 PM on 11/01/2010
the gop want a revolution like in nazi germany so they can take over, and they have the guns.
03:15 PM on 11/01/2010
I hope she sues them big time!!
NoBlueDogs
FIGHT Offshoring!!!
05:10 PM on 11/01/2010
We need to find a way to shut banks like that DOWN.

We need to retaliate. Boycotts, causing them financial trouble, all kinds of stuff. Anything the law can't nail you for but will cost them dearly for firing this woman...
06:04 PM on 11/04/2010
moveyourmoney.com
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MiddleMolly
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08:02 PM on 11/01/2010
Unfortunately, this practice is so widespread now that we'd have virtually nowhere to bank, no place to buy things.
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idcsys
01:21 PM on 11/01/2010
Let me get this straight. A financial institution won't hire you or keep you employed because you have poor credit and represent a security risk to the financial institution and its customers. That means everyone who maintains employment at said institution has passed the credit scrutiny. How, then, do you explain the ongoing embezzlement and thievery that continues to plague financial institutions? Evidently, people with great credit scores are as or more capable of stealing than those with poor credit scores.
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mrcontinental
01:26 PM on 11/01/2010
How dare you apply logic to a situation such as this! Did you not drink your daily Kool-Aid ration today? Sounds like you need to tune in to Fox News immediately to neutralize those brain cells.
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idcsys
01:36 PM on 11/01/2010
I'm sorry. My kool-aid levels must be very low. I must have had a temporary surge in logic. I desperately need to book another trip to beckistan.
06:11 PM on 11/02/2010
"credit checks for thee but not for me".

Hypocritical monsters.
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mrcontinental
12:30 AM on 11/03/2010
It's always the thieves who are most concerned about being ripped off because it is such a normal part of their world it's not a question of if but of when. They want your unquestioned loyalty but will screw you in a second. Gotta love it.
01:20 PM on 11/01/2010
I had a bankruptcy due to medical bills and was applying for a sensitive government position. I was hired, but this was because the review procedure included not only a credit check but an extensive background check as well. If banks were to institute this practice they'd discover a lot of viable, good employees out there whose loyalty would be assured. However, doing background checks take time and money. Time is apparently plentiful, since banks seem in no hurry to lend money to anyone other than a gigantic corporation. Money is another factor. They will not spend a dime if the only purpose is to give some poor schmuck a break. That's not the business they're in: they're in the business of increasing shareholder dividends and NOTHING ELSE.
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mrcontinental
01:29 PM on 11/01/2010
Congrats on the favorable adjudication.

They are suppose to use the "whole person" approach so that an anomaly like a bankruptcy won't torpedo your chances... sounds like it worked for you.
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MiddleMolly
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02:40 PM on 11/01/2010
I believe that federal law prohibits disciminating against people who have filed for bankruptcy in making employment decisions
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camanokat
Outta this world
05:07 PM on 11/02/2010
Wrong.
09:10 PM on 11/06/2010
Actually there is NO such federal law with respect to bankruptcy and denying employment. Under the law persons cannot be fired for the legal discharge of debt under federal bankruptcy code. (At least that is the way the law reads.) Employers CAN however refuse to hire a candidate who has in the past filed bankruptcy. In actuality most employers will evaluate the merits of the whole person and will not discriminate even in the case of old criminal records. In California and thirteen other states laws protect people from disclosure of records of any type antedating seven plus years! This does not necessarily mean an employer will not find out about past transgressions, it's just that legally they are not supposed to take that into consideration. Bear in mind that with respect to the financial industry it is not unheard of to fire contingent workers (temps) for just cause or for no reason whatsoever per the verbiage of the employment contract.
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Patriot86
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01:13 PM on 11/01/2010
They should not allow business to use credit scoring to hire...seriously needs to stop.
Agent672
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01:20 PM on 11/01/2010
not under GOP rule it won't
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Patriot86
Compassion is the basis of all morality.
04:16 PM on 11/01/2010
So true.
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Rita R
Always asking why
01:06 PM on 11/01/2010
My identity was stolen four years ago. The person responsible was caught, prosecuted, and found guilty. I sent all the court records to the credit bureaus, including Fair Isaac, yet the amounts charged -- and refunded to me by my bank -- by the criminal are still showing up as bad debts on my credit reports. Although I've done tech work for some of the largest financial corporations in the world over the past two and a half decades, I am no longer considered a viable candidate for contract tech work with finanical corporations due to my credit rating. Copies of police reports, the court verdict, letters from my bank have done zilch to rectify the situation with the credit bureaus.
01:20 PM on 11/01/2010
This exactly why the practice should be outlawed. What a nightmare you have been through! That person stole a lot from you, and sadly, while the money can be recovered, reputation is not as easy to repair.
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mrcontinental
01:32 PM on 11/01/2010
What a nightmare. Sounds like you may need to get a consumer credit attorney involved. You have rights.
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12:31 PM on 11/01/2010
While this clearly amounts to discrimination, to treat people with defaulted debt as criminals, and it should be an illegal practice, no...

Personally, when, immediately after school, I defaulted in school loans, I was told by hiring firms not to waste my time applying for work with any financial sector firms.
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mrcontinental
01:05 PM on 11/01/2010
It an excuse to justify or brand of legal usury. Charging people 21 percent and higher interest is criminal and immoral no matter how you slice it. Honestly anything over 9 percent is excessive.