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Democrat House Losses: Democrats Fearing The Worst

First Posted: 10/31/10 10:40 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:10 PM ET

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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Publicly, Democratic campaign officials are putting a brave face on predictions of House losses, with House Campaign Chairman Chris Van Hollen claiming that the party might hold the chamber, meaning that they would lose fewer than a net of 39 seats. Other officials are pegging the expected losses at 50-55 seats, in line with consensus independent public forecasts, such as those of Charlie Cook and Nate Silver.

But within the last 12 hours I've spoken to two top Democratic consultants -- very active on the battlefield this fall and with 60 years of on-the-ground experience between them -- who told me some shocking news.

Separately, and privately, they each told me that they thought the Democrats could lose 70 seats on Tuesday. That would be a blowout of historic proportions.

For the record, the biggest one-day loss for the president's party in modern times was in 1938, when voters expressed their impatience with the Depression and FDR's New Deal by voting out 71 Democrats.

It seems likely now that Tuesday could exceed the two other benchmarks: a loss of 55 seats in 1942 and 52 in 1994.

"A lot of incumbents are going to wake up on Wednesday morning and not know what hit them," one of the consultants told me. "Anyone who isn't at 50 percent in the final polling will lose -- and even some who are above that line will."

These consultants may be wrong -- but the fact that they are that grim, if not beyond grim, can have a self-fulfilling effect.

From an exuberant high of two years ago, the Democrats are as down as I have seen them since the darkest of Bill Clinton's days.

But maybe that comparison is its own ray of hope. The GOP overplayed its hand in 1995 and 1996 -- and may well do so again.

And don't forget that Clinton was reelected.

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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Publicly, Democratic campaign officials are putting a brave face on predictions of House losses, with House Campaign Chairman Chris Van Hollen claiming that the party might hold th...
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Publicly, Democratic campaign officials are putting a brave face on predictions of House losses, with House Campaign Chairman Chris Van Hollen claiming that the party might hold th...
 
 
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Dawg1000
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03:43 PM on 11/03/2010
Did Pelosi really call the election a victory for the Democrat party? My goodness, the denial never stops
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KAL-EL
Every time I fill out my bio I get banned.
10:03 AM on 11/03/2010
Say good bye to all that power, peelosi.
09:22 AM on 11/03/2010
"And don't forget that Clinton was reelected."

Thanks to Newt Gingrich and the Republican House, putting Clinton under adult supervision, except of course in the Oval Office.
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Dukedraven
01:47 AM on 11/03/2010
The Democrats shouldn't fear anything. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him to drink. Forget that horse and work on some new programs.
11:05 PM on 11/02/2010
The mass anchor meltdown on M.S.NBC is hilarious.
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KAL-EL
Every time I fill out my bio I get banned.
10:24 AM on 11/03/2010
Too bad I dropped that needless expense of my dish package, it would be fun to watch.
10:32 PM on 11/02/2010
Mr. Obama and the dems have no one but themselves to blame for the results. Democrats once again proved that the ignorance of the party will in fact repeat history over and over again. Their arrogance got the best of them again.
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10:00 PM on 11/02/2010
If the GOP doesn't retake the Senate, the Dem HP readers will have Christine O'Donnell to thank!
09:50 PM on 11/02/2010
This is like a good movie, Revenge of the Patriots! The TEA is almost ready!
iwrite2
If I were DNA Helicase I could unzip your Genes
09:15 PM on 11/02/2010
Nah nah nah nah, nah nah nah nah, hey hey hey goodbye
07:09 PM on 11/02/2010
Spinelessness and failure to deliver change -- in large part -- is the reason for the Democrats' election dilemma. Just the opinion of a progressive...
07:22 PM on 11/02/2010
so judgemental... where were you when bush was rodding out this country ?????
07:51 PM on 11/02/2010
Trying like the dickens to get his @ss kicked out of office? Where were you, doll?
07:27 PM on 11/02/2010
p.s how can you deliver change after all the destruction delivered by Bush... he did his job well... oh welll.. and now you blame Obama.....
08:03 PM on 11/02/2010
I believe he's blaming the democrats (mostly in the Senate) for giving away too much rather than standing up for their principles. I didn't read the name Obama anywhere in his post. I'm thinking more of the Lincolns,,Nelsons and LIEbermans (yes, I know he's an Independent but he caucuses with the Dems) that couldn't seem to get off the Corporate teat.
08:27 PM on 11/02/2010
Mr. Obama can start by stop capitulating his position on issues. Do you recall him bailing on the public option before negotiations on healthcare began? Do you think he has stood strong on DADT? The Democrats have been playing footsie on that one for 18 months. How about closing Guantanamo? True -- Bush screwed this country for two terms, but fixing it takes a President with b@lls of steel; not just motivational speeches. Wake up.
06:57 PM on 11/02/2010
I'm gonna make some TEA cuz we're gonna have a party!
07:24 PM on 11/02/2010
go ahead... when you hole azzes mess around and elect palin to presidency, this country will be the laughing stock of the world... so sad !!! This is not the same america.... I am afraid !!!
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AMERIKA
Husband, Parent, Sibling, Business Owner, Progress
08:38 PM on 11/02/2010
Good luck with that. Lets see just how you actually govern. I predict Buyers Remorse.
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bd7769
I am so often right, that I am a progressive
04:39 PM on 11/03/2010
I think we just had that from the last election
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AndyWright68
Freedom is inevitable!
06:55 PM on 11/02/2010
No. "The worst" would be their elimination along with the rest of this tyrannical system. Abolishing the government is the only solution to all these problems that were caused by government.

And save your "move to Somalia" ridiculous comments. Somalians quality of life improved across the board after their government collapsed. A collapsing government is much different then deciding to abolish a government. Plus, we are in a much better starting position. Give Somalia 235 years as a free society and then compare them to us now if you want a fair comparison.

Societies free from government and abusive policing in the past survived 300 to 1,000 years with little to no crime, no wars and charity flourished for those in need. Again, we are in the best starting position today...
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Father Tom
CPA, VietNam Vet, Not a Priest
06:08 PM on 11/02/2010
Cringe time watching either MSNBC, FOX, or CNN. Think I'll go have a burger.
07:13 PM on 11/02/2010
I agree, but got a suggestion: dial into Jon Stewart (on Comedy Central). He delivers more REAL news in ten minutes than CNN (aka, Chat Not News) does in an entire hour. And Jon Stewart is a comedian. Go figure...
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JWW33
If we cannot dig ourselves out, we must go deeper
05:48 PM on 11/02/2010
"Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it" The adage never fails, if only people listened. Well, things will probably turn out pretty good for President Obama, like Clinton, but our legislative branch will go back to the Dems eventually after the repubs screw up yet again. When will people learn?
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Lisette53
I am the 99%
07:54 PM on 11/02/2010
Luv Ya JW faved
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allengoldchain
Freedom is never voluntarily given bythe oppressor
05:06 PM on 11/02/2010
Ok can we get one thing clear. I know progressives and liberals (or are they not the same thing) are all for democrat sweeps but can we make a deal.

If republicans sweep the country in the elections, will the liberals and progressives concede that it is because of a referendum of Obama and democrats agenda? I just don't want people whining that it was unfair because of Fox news, or the election was stolen due to foreign money buying off the election (last time I checked it was democrats handing out free food for votes). Let's be clear, if democrats lose a lot of seats, this was due to failure of democrats ALONE.

Now if republicans do not achieve their tsunami, then I will concede that the country is not as angry about the Obama and democrats policies. No whining from me period.
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Fred M White
Facts know no bias my republican friends...
07:18 PM on 11/02/2010
Srry, its just not that simple. Its a lot of things but most of it has to do with marketing and this I will concede, republicans have always been better at it than democrats. Not so much with selling their own positions, but more with characterizing and successfully labeling dem positions and candidates. Republicans are so good at retail politics. Since the Reagan years they have excelled at it. How else can you explain the republican success time and time again at getting voters to vote against their own self interests? So its not so much a failure of the agenda as it is a failure to successfully sell and explain that agenda.
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Lisette53
I am the 99%
07:40 PM on 11/02/2010
IMHO the country is angry and it has nothing to do with who is in power. The country was just as angry when they elected Obama. I think they will stay angry until their lives improve regardless of who is in the driver's seat.