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Jimmy Carter Warns Religion And Politics Are Getting Too Cozy

First Posted: 11/ 1/2010 8:30 pm Updated: 05/25/2011 6:10 pm

Carter Criticizes Baptists

By Kristen Moulton
The Salt Lake Tribune/Religion News Service

SALT LAKE CITY (RNS) For a man who evangelized foreign leaders and taught Sunday school while U.S. president, Jimmy Carter has some strong words for what he sees as an "excessive melding of religion and politics."

And it began, he said, with the denomination he called home for more than seven decades: the Southern Baptist Convention.

"It's now metastasized to other religions, where an actual affiliation between the denomination and the more conservative elements of the Republican Party is almost official," Carter said during a stop here to promote his new book, "White House Diary."

"There are pastors openly calling for members to vote a certain way," the 86-year-old ex-president said. "That's a serious breakdown in the principle of separation of church and state."

Carter and his wife, Rosalynn, left the Southern Baptists in 2000 after the denomination's long shift toward conservative politics and new doctrinal statements that are, in Carter's view, more creed-based and anti-woman. But the couple remain Baptists and worship at Maranatha Baptist Church when they are home in Plains, Ga.

Though Carter criticizes conservative Christians' influence on politics, he argues religions and religious people have a right -- and a duty -- to speak up on moral issues.

"It's completely legitimate for The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints or Baptists or Methodists or Catholics or anyone else to express the views of their particular faith, even when it's an opinion about prospective legislation," he said. "The Mormons have a perfect right to express their views against gay marriage."

The U.S. Constitution simply says states cannot establish religion, he said. It does not silence religious voices.

"White House Diary" condenses 5,000 pages of journals Carter kept during his presidency, and offers glimpses of Jimmy Carter, the Baptist.

Even as he records downing a couple of "good strong drinks" with Tip O'Neill (drinking is a no-no for many Southern Baptists) or describes Sen. Henry "Scoop" Jackson of Washington as acting like "an ass," Carter's faith shines through.

When the Pennsylvania congressional delegation was pressuring him for a particular U.S. attorney appointment, Carter wrote, "I told them in a nice way to go to hell."

Because he was open about his beliefs, Carter said during the interview, heads of state often quizzed him. "I was never hesitant," he said, "to discuss faith in Christ."

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By Kristen Moulton The Salt Lake Tribune/Religion News Service SALT LAKE CITY (RNS) For a man who evangelized foreign leaders and taught Sunday school while U.S. president, Jimmy Carter has some st...
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VintageMary
09:35 PM on 12/25/2010
Sing it, Jimmy!
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Bob Kellerman
Let's have more sanity toward each other
02:32 AM on 11/08/2010
Jimmy, did you think that the mormons CARED when you said in Salt Lake City that religions should not preach to congregations on how to vote?

All their official writings make it clear that it is THEIR JOB TO CHANGE LAWS according to their version of God's word.

We sinners are under their divine care --- Personally, seeing a couple of their temples sold for taxes would be fine with me.
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11:58 AM on 11/09/2010
Whether they cared or not, he said it. He has a habit of standing firmly by his own convictions, even when surrounded by people who are opposed. I think that was the point and that, in a nutshell, is Jimmy Carter.

And that's why I respect him.
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topkatnc
Give a stray cat or dog a chance .
03:18 PM on 11/09/2010
Well said ... and agree ...
06:02 PM on 11/07/2010
Refreshing for a Christian to see and acknowledge the fine line. It does NOT belong in government. There is no reason to believe Christians in charge would be any different than Taliban in charge,
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tacevad
American SS Card Carrying Socialist
05:18 PM on 11/07/2010
James Earl Carter was out last "true" Christian in the office of President. He follows his Christian roots instead of using them for political advantage.
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Bob Kellerman
Let's have more sanity toward each other
02:28 AM on 11/08/2010
OH, I thought GWB was a Christian, too

---- oops! That was his wife. Christians don't start OIL WARS.
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tacevad
American SS Card Carrying Socialist
08:20 AM on 11/08/2010
Georgie was only Christian in Name, not deeds.
02:04 PM on 11/07/2010
I believe the biggest threat we face in this country is not from Muslim extremists wanting to destroy us from the outside, but from Christian extremists wanting to turn us into a theocracy.
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calhar
12:44 PM on 11/07/2010
I never voted for Jimmy Carter for president,but he makes a lot of sence,Being an independent,i normally vote Republican,but if they nominate Preacher Huckabee,as their candidate,i am dam sure i will vote democrat.This guy talkes smart,but as a preacher he is bound to be biased.Especialy him coming from the "bible belt"I have serious doubts he can separate his pre prgramed religion from government.
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Nomccain
11:04 AM on 11/06/2010
As usual, Jimmy Carter is right! Jimmy's problem in being president was he brought a bunch of 'goobers" with him from Georgia and listened to them rather than educated, astute people who President's normally choose to advise them. He was one of our most educated, intelligent President who had bad advisers. If he were still President, we would have an energy policy, health care reform with meaning, and probably be out of both Iraq and Afghanistan. He knew that the reason why these "terrorists" are fighting us is because we are IN THEIR LANDS, RAPING THEIR RESOURCES, AND TRYING TO IMPOSE OUR VALUES AND POLITICAL SYSTEM ON THEM. If the scenario were reversed, would we fight them? Hell Yes!
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topkatnc
Give a stray cat or dog a chance .
03:26 PM on 11/09/2010
One of his problems as president .. was he didn't play the social game .... some of them didn't appreciate him .. when he sold the presidential yacht ... he was there to better the country .. the others just wanted to party ... a problem that we still have in today ..
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VintageMary
09:36 PM on 12/25/2010
As long as 'problem' is used sarcastically...
01:15 AM on 11/06/2010
Jimmy Carter is right as usual.

However, I don't think anyone complained about Mormons expressing their views on gay marriage. If that was all it was then it wouldn't have been a big deal. It went way beyond that. Millions of dollars were spent to force their views upon others. To spread lies and fears about a minority that ended up with them losing rights. They pressured their members politically, and thus should be forced to pay taxes.

Anway, I'm sure his remarks were well received in Salt Lake City - even if the support he offered had nothing to do with the criticisms the church has received...
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american-dolt
Truther since 2004
02:27 PM on 11/05/2010
Another gold star for your forehead, thanks Jimmy.
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yellowdog71
12:59 PM on 11/05/2010
I don't know how someone can call themselves a Christian and a Republican in the same breath. The worldviews are completely incompatible.

Christians are taught whatever they do to the least of their brethren, they do to Christ (Matthew: 25:40). Yet, as Republicans, they continually rail against any social justice, welfare or social safety net as communism or socialism, or worse.

Christ aligned himself with the poor, not the rich as Republicans do. The GOP are against minimum wage laws, regulation of industry which works to protect workers, public education among many others.

Christ spent his life giving a voice to women and minorities or the oppressed of his time, in direct opposition to Republican mantras;

Yes, the GOP aligns itself with the strictest areas of Christianity (pro-life, anti-g@y, etc.) but the basic tenets of what it means to be Christian has little or nothing to do with the Repulbican party.

Note: While I was raised Baptist and converted to Catholicism upon marriage, I am recovering. I have long, long ago given up on organized religion. I do not think of myself as a non-believer, but I believe I (or anyone) can get closer to God at home on Sunday than in a church, where it's more a fashion competition or political rally than anything else. God is in the details, and some of the worst people I have ever met wore their religion on their sleeves, not in their hearts.
05:11 AM on 11/08/2010
Well said!
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Shadow Weaver
05:26 AM on 11/08/2010
I'd say because what defines a 'Christian' is not said within 'the book', and the book itself spans so many contradictory aspects.. some elect to completely ignore the OT, some don't.. either way, tis impossible to follow all the tenets set out... hence it will always be pick and choose, and people deciding which are more important than the other... though how they come upon this, I have no idea or am not aware that there is a pecking order.
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Hillbilly49
Don't tell me you are a Christian; let me guess.
10:32 AM on 11/05/2010
The Tea Party is losing it’s conservative values!

A while back I listened to Ann Coulter on the Sean Hannity show. She was explaining how there is no "Wall of separation" between church and state.

Her point was that the First Amendment states, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...." and it applies only to Congress. Therefore, she argued, while congress is limited by the First Amendment, the Supreme Court and the rest of the nation has had it wrong in restricting the states from any religious involvement they want, including teaching religion in public schools I suppose.

Sean Hannity readily agreed and so his audience once again got a dose of the Kool-Aid that the Constitution has been misconstrued and old time conservative values were wrong.

I and conservatives believe the religious intolerance is unacceptable but Fox News apparently only tolerates the Christian religion and wants to establish it in public schools; the sad thing TP people are buying in to it.
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anastasiabeaverhousen
Time wounds all heels
07:42 PM on 11/06/2010
Note to myself: Never use "fox" and "news" together in a sentence. F&F anyway.
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Catch 22
Plan for Mid to Long Term.
09:41 AM on 11/05/2010
"Though Carter criticizes conservative Christians' influence on politics, he argues religions and religious people have a right -- and a duty -- to speak up on moral issues."
I am always astounded by this man. His humility is just so refreshing. I suspect that is why he is so hated by the extreme right. He never highlights his Education, he is a Nuclear Engineer, Graduate of Annapolis. He prefers to put emphasis on his faith. Talk about Change, things must have been bad in the mid 70's for America to even consider electing a man like this. He certainly was not macho enough, and stressed that dreaded word, integrity. And even his highly criticized Energy Policy is starting to look food now. Makes me feel nostalgic.
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phnxrth
09:37 AM on 11/05/2010
When G. W. Bush was elected I got a pretty clear picture of how satanic religious influence can be. In fact, I'll go so far as to say that anyone who doesn't recognize that fact isn't looking very hard.

Hey, if it's a game and the most satanic wins, I'll stand back and watch how the thing plays out.
01:43 AM on 11/05/2010
“Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful.†Seneca
07:35 PM on 11/04/2010
I think we are bordering on the time when churches should pay taxes like everyone else. Churches have become political activists and as such they should be tax payers like any other corporations seeking to influence the political arena.
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wulidncr
Believe nothing. Question all. Love boundlessly
08:41 PM on 11/05/2010
Boardering? That milepost is in the rearview mirror. Passed long ago like a missed exit on the freeway.

Marsha: "Bob. Did we miss our exit?"
Bob: "DOH!"
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anastasiabeaverhousen
Time wounds all heels
07:43 PM on 11/06/2010
Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!
09:11 PM on 11/07/2010
Absolutely agree 110%. Will it ever happen? Not in our lifetimes.