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Prop 19 Supporters Vow To Push Marijuana Legalization In 2012

LISA LEFF and MARCUS WOHLSEN   11/ 3/10 08:58 PM ET   AP

Prop 19 Results

LOS ANGELES — It seemed an easy sell in California: The state that gave us medical marijuana would allow pot for recreation.

Then came the ads, newspaper editorials and politicians, warning of a world where stoned drivers would crash school buses, nurses would show up at work high and employers would be helpless to fire drug-addled workers.

A day after voters rejected Proposition 19, marijuana advocates wondered how they failed in trendsetting, liberal California.

Was it the fear of the unknown? An older electorate more likely to oppose pot? Voters reluctant to go any further than they already had with the nation's most lax pot laws? Fear of crossing swords with a federal government still intent on enforcing its ban on the drug?

Whatever the reason, activists vowed Wednesday to push on in California, as well as in states that rejected other pot measures Tuesday.

"Social change doesn't happen overnight," said Paul Armentano, deputy director of the National Organization for Repeal of Marijuana Laws.

In South Dakota, voters rejected for the second time a medical marijuana measure – a step first taken by California in 1996 and by 13 other states since. Oregon voters refused to expand their medical marijuana program to create a network of state-licensed nonprofit dispensaries.

A medical marijuana measure on Arizona's ballot remained too close to call Wednesday.

California's initiative, which would have allowed adults age 21 and older to possess and grow small amounts of marijuana, failed 54 to 46 percent. An Associated Press analysis of exit and pre-election polls found voters opposed Prop 19 regardless of race, gender, income or education level.

Blacks and Latinos, for example, opposed the measure at about the same rate as whites. That despite evidence that pot advocates presented during the campaign that minorities are disproportionately arrested on marijuana offenses.

"There is a sense of people wanting to move into a new policy ... but still being wary of what that change might mean," said Ethan Nadelmann, director of the pro-legalization Drug Policy Project.

Roger Salazar, a spokesman for the successful campaign to defeat Prop 19, agreed that misgivings about possible social problems from increased marijuana use helped seal the measure's fate.

But he also blamed backers for leaving it up to local governments instead of the state to set sales regulations. He also faulted them for promoting the measure as a revenue windfall for the state and a way to undercut drug traffickers and free up police to pursue more serious crimes.

"The risks of legalizing something as important as marijuana were far greater than the potential benefits, and the benefits were far from guaranteed," Salazar said. "If they are going to come back with something, it has to be a lot more tightly written."

Preliminary election returns showed Prop 19 winning in 11 of 58 counties, with the strongest support in San Francisco and Santa Cruz.

But in a sign of what a tough sell it was, the measure lost in the state's vaunted marijuana-growing region known as the "Emerald Triangle" of Humboldt, Mendocino and Trinity counties. Many in the region feared the system they created would be taken over by corporations or would undercut a cornerstone of the local economies by sending pot prices plunging.

Those most anxious about the economy were not convinced that legalizing pot was worth the potential tax revenue or jobs created by a newly legal marijuana industry.

A Los Angeles dispensary manager said the proposition was a step in the right direction, though its failure wasn't necessarily bad.

"The fact it didn't pass is not really so bad for us because it keeps the status quo for dispensaries and collectives that are already operating," said Tim Blakeley, 44, who manages Sunset Junction Organic Medicine.

"People need more time to get used to the idea of legalized pot," he said.

For many in California, the status quo was also fine but for another reason,

Just a month before the election, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger signed legislation that made possession of up to an ounce of marijuana the equivalent of a traffic ticket, subject to no more than a $100 fine and no arrest or criminal record.

Prop 19 supporters said they believed Schwarzenegger signed the bill to undercut any sense of urgency around marijuana legalization.

Abbey Kaufman and Matt McDonald toked up "a few blunts" during the Giants World Series celebration in front of San Francisco City Hall despite a strong police presence.

The 20-year-old San Franciscans said they each voted yes but both said they weren't disappointed Prop 19 failed.

"Right now, you can smoke as much pot as you want on the streets of San Francisco," Kaufman said. "If it had passed, marijuana would have been treated like booze and there would be a big crackdown on public smoking."

"I think a lot of stoners voted yes just because, but I think we're better off that it didn't pass."

Richard Lee, the Oakland, Calif., medical marijuana entrepreneur who sponsored Prop 19 and spent $1.4 million of his own money to qualify the measure for the ballot and try to get it passed, drew hope in the generational divide among the voters.

The only unequivocal support for the measure came from voters under 30, though even they were not as united in their support as voters 65 and older were in their opposition.

Lee said the fact that 3.4 million Californians cast ballots for legalizing marijuana and that Prop 19 came within 9 percentage points of passing were victories themselves

He noted that since younger voters supported the initiative, a generation that does not fear the drug would one day constitute a majority of the population.

"The issue is generational," he said. "Many of the biggest contributors to the campaign were younger and based in Silicon Valley, representing a changing of the guard of political influence and leadership."

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Associated Press writers Paul Elias in San Francisco and Shaya Tayefe Mohajer in Los Angeles contributed to this report.

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xanxia
Dazed and Confused
03:36 AM on 11/14/2010
I will still continue to support this, no matter how long it takes. Keep fighting
08:51 AM on 11/25/2010
yeah keep fighting and legalize it

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worldlyhick
07:44 PM on 11/13/2010
Given all the damage that the "War on some Drugs" has done to people it is past time to start pointing out the corruption and greed inherent in the system. People who are benefiting from being part of the War on Cannabis are not being sufficiently exposed for their deliberate misdirection and lying.

The people who are benefiting from the War on Cannabis are going to cling to their "cash cow" whoever suffers (as long it's some powerless person) and however much they have to fabricate stories to keep the status quo. If that is not the essence of corruption I don't know what is, and at a time when we are told we are so broke as a nation that social services are in danger of being cut.
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tempting
sure fire
10:34 PM on 11/09/2010
LEGALIZE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PureRockFury
04:30 PM on 11/08/2010
Sober people cant drive either, why are they so special.
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Midnight Toker
06:46 PM on 11/09/2010
Cynthia: ''I had no idea I was drifting out of my lane..''
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jmk6653
11:09 PM on 11/06/2010
Let's get it on the ballet - that means a good turn out in 2012 and it gives the D's a better chance to retain the office !! I am still burning over the R's putting the gay marriage on the ballet to get GW reelected - pay back time
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Kasado
en jolt of terminus
11:49 PM on 11/04/2010
I doubt there will ever be legal weed in Cali or anywhere else as long voters search for the smallest excuse to vote no. Sure Prop 19 wasn't perfect, but it was a start that could have been improved upon over time.
Also, if I were a grower in Humbolt county I would reconsider planting next year, since in my opinion the LEOs are going to be emboldened by Prop 19s failure to come down hard on growers. Maybe they will regret their NO vote when the Feds take their crop, all their property, and their freedom for 10 to 15 years.
And for the fears that big corporations would take over production, putting small growers out of business. What paranoid BS. As long as cannabis is federally illegal, no corporation would risk opposing the DEA. Such arguments are just a smoke screen to keep weed illegal and the prices high.
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dbrett480
08:30 PM on 11/04/2010
The reason why Prop. 19 failed is that it was just poorly written. It wasn't a more conservative electorate as Democrats swept statewide offices and propositions in CA. And it wasn't the ads, the Prop. 19 supporters had over 10 times the funding as the anti-Prop. 19. It was just another example of poor ballot-box legislating.
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commonsense333
05:00 PM on 11/04/2010
I know for a fact that it's easier to get drugs than alcohol for kids. Heck, when I was in 8th grade, I had some pot and crosstops (speed). It was easy. I didn't touch alcohol until I was 20 yrs old. Kids can get drugs easier than alcohol because it's unregulated. It doesn't matter that it's illegal, it's readily available. All prohibition has done is make cartels rich, and non violent decent people criminals. I'm sick of this country and it's double standard. San Fran. has now banned Happy Meals, so it's just one more step to taking away all our choices and freedoms. I think I am moving. I gotta get out of this gestapo country before it's too late.
04:11 PM on 11/04/2010
A smart approach would be to de-couple cannabis from industrial hemp. This would serve to disenthrall people of their fears and ignorance about cannabis and hemp, and would start a profitable industry that could exert pressure on Congress to legalize hemp and maybe reschedule cannabis down to the level of a prescription drug.

This whole process is going to take many years. It has nothing to do with what voters want and everything to do with the pressure to keep hemp and cannabis illegal by Big Cotton, Big Pharma, and the prison industrial complex. If politicians could appreciate what a money maker industrial hemp is, maybe they'd be forced to lighten up on cannabis enough to decriminalize it. But, whatever happens, if Democrats don't at least come out for hemp, the Gops will grab the issue for their own. This already happened here in California, where a Gop candidate actually came out in favor of legalizing industrial hemp. She lost, but her prescience was an eye opener.
04:37 PM on 11/04/2010
I think lumping both together would be best, and right two wrongs. Plus provide two very profitable industries.
12:07 PM on 11/04/2010
I'm reasonably sure that in one or two election cycles pot will be legal, gays will be able to marry, and California will still have a budget crisis.
03:15 PM on 11/04/2010
Well, of course California is going to have a budget crisis. That is caused by Californians being forced to subsidize and support the rest of the country, who don't seem able to pay their bills. It has nothing to do with California's economy, or the actions of Californians. As long as have to shell out over $200 billion a year we're not going to be able to balance the budget. We want to help the people in the rest of the US who don't seem able to get it together, but there's only so much we can do. We can't support the entire country.
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Callah
You can't fix stupid, not even with duct tape.
11:29 AM on 11/04/2010
I'm really pissed at my neighbors right now!
They are all freaked out that Tobacco companies will show up and start growing and they wouldn't get the $2,200. a LB or $250. an oz. They would rather take a risk of losing their homes, go to jail and end up paying good money after bad to courts, all for the sake of growing pot in the freaking woods. Never even gave any thought to the fact that we could start creating HEMP manufacturing businesses, ( food products we currently import, textiles, oils, cosmetics and soaps, bio-diesel, composite building materials, paper products, outdoor fabrics ie: tents, sleeping bags, tarps, sail cloth) but NO.....can't do that. It has to be all about the little money they get once a year off a crop they might get out if the CAMP, Cops, DEA, National Guard, other growers, rippers don't get it first. Can't be bothered with "other uses"...
WE HAVE NO INDUSTRIES LEFT IN THE TRIANGLE ! We could use a few companies showing up here and creating some real JOBS. We haven't had real jobs here since the mills shut down almost 20 years back.
So I hope in 2012 they actually FOCUS on the hemp aspect a lot more. They are REAL industries, that don't get you STONED that make this a very important business possibility for northern California, whether or not they UNDERSTAND it or not.....
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boilinabag
Nam et ipsa scientia potestas est.
11:08 AM on 11/04/2010
the bill was poorly written, and would have given the corporate masters too much power over manufacturing and distribution. also, as of jan 1, anything less than an ounce on you is not even going to get you cited..... get your card and grow your own its easy...............
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Fnordpocalypse
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12:50 PM on 11/04/2010
do you know what would be really easy? If it was legal and I didnt have to lie to a doctor to get a card. see? easy.
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moderndaywarrior
Eat Pray Smoke Dope
04:25 PM on 11/04/2010
That's too easy. And that's what the majority of Californian votes said.

Look, you don't get any more pro-pot than me. As a legitimate medical patient who did not have to lie to a doctor, I utilize cannabis to relieve my herniated disk and insomnia.

I use cannabis while completely respecting the law of my state that allows me to use and grow it in the privacy of my home. Meanwhile I routinely have to chase away skaters that congregate behind my apartment. Not only are they trespassing, they're smoking their pot outside in an unauthorized area, vandalizing the property and just generally giving stoners a bad name. I wonder how making it easier for these types to get weed is going to make my life any better.

I'm glad things are going to stay the way they are for now until a better law is written. BTW, I loathe skaters.
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moderndaywarrior
Eat Pray Smoke Dope
12:52 PM on 11/05/2010
If your patient friend is getting it for you, then aren't both of you gaming the system already?You're both perpetuating the negative stereotype of the medical cannabis community.
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moderndaywarrior
Eat Pray Smoke Dope
04:34 PM on 11/04/2010
Amen, brother.

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IndyFem
10:16 AM on 11/04/2010
A few months ago an LAPD Officer was at one of our office meetings to discuss a totally different topic. At the end a numer of us couldn't resisit asking him about his feelings on Prop 19. He basically said that he was against it BECAUSE....it didn't give any details as to "enforcement." He went on to say that if it passess..as written...the police will have to more or less "wing it" and this will cause tremendous chaos.
We need to prepare over the next 2 years and have a bill that contains details for enforcement.
04:41 PM on 11/04/2010
It did detail the enforcement. It said all current laws remain in place, and gave exceptions, such as 5x5 plot, an ounce or less, legal transport for personal use, and future state and local laws (the state was already prepared to pass regulation should 19 pass, but that wont happen now)
09:36 AM on 11/04/2010
I'm all for it, but it seems that they haven't thought out the infrastructure that would be needed to enforce the rules. There needs to be rules and penalties along the lines of alcohol (i.e. drunk driving, etc). There is a point where you can become very impaired and cause damage to other people. I'm not sure they even have a method to determine how high a person is or what a legal limit of THC would be. I think if they think this through a little more thoroughly than it would have a good chance of passing.
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firewmn
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09:57 AM on 11/04/2010
there already are laws on the books AND....as true to course with ALL OTHER LEGAL props like alcohol - laws are forever revised to fit the next generation so up dated laws will certainly come into play but seriously..NO you ARE WRONG~ There is NO point you become "very impaired and cause damage to other people"..!!! a NOT TRUE statement the way you have written it. total reefer maddness.

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Let's Be Honest: The War Against Marijuana Has Failed. Retired Chief McNamara

For 70 years, we have prohibited marijuana in this country, each day expecting different results. But as William F. Buckley once said: "Even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value, marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could."
We spend hundreds of millions of dollars every year arresting people for marijuana possession, sending them to trial, and incarcerating small-time offenders.

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11:20 AM on 11/04/2010
In Ca the drug war is coming to a close without prop 19....with 215 laws. I live in Humboldt and know the industry well as it is the major economy here..with most everyone dependent in one way or another. The medical cannabis 215 laws have been very good to rural N Ca...helping thousands to survive in this recession. And pot does absolutely cause impairment at some point.

Many of us here are in theory pro-legalization but much prefer decriminalization as prop 19 according to a Rand corp study will put most small growers out of business...and the corporados will take over the industry that is putting food on the table for thousands of families in this difficult economy. The Oakland group who wrote the prop 19 has bought four exclusive permits to grow in Oakland and brags that they will corner 25% of the Ca. market only employing 350 people. So thousands in rural Ca who are working as cottage industry in a cooperative community kind of way will be edged out and our communities will likely become like Flint Michigan..

But I guess that is the American way...the corporate system...where a few on top make the bucks and to -ell with everybody else. yeah hip hip hurray for prop 19!! Let's make sure we screw rural N Ca by 2012.