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Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan Has Just 8,011 Enrollees


First Posted: 11/05/10 02:45 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:10 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- The health care reform program designed as a stopgap to provide insurance coverage for the uninsurable until the new law's major provisions take effect in 2014 has reached just 8,011 people since its launch this summer.

The Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan, run by the federal government in 23 states and state governments in the rest of the country, is for people who have been uninsured for at least six months due to pre-existing conditions like cancer, diabetes, and heart disease.

There are millions of such people, but officials with the Department of Health and Human Services initially said they expected the program to reach 350,000 over the next three years. On Friday, HHS said that after just a few months, it's too difficult to predict how many people will be covered, and that estimates of the eligible population are sketchy.

"It's challenging to get precise data on these types of individuals because not everyone knows they have a pre-existing condition because a pre-existing condition can mean you're overweight or you have severe cancer," said Richard Popper of HHS. "It's not a well-known number."

The New York Times reported Thursday that enrollment in most states as of Nov. 1 was below 10 percent of capacity. The apparent obstacles to wider enrollment are the program's sometimes steep premiums and the requirement that applicants be uninsured for six months.

Senate Republicans chided the administration when the program missed its launch deadline in June. California only began offering coverage in October. The program is based on the Republicans' core health care reform proposal to expand the role of existing state high-risk pools, which cover 200,000 people in 35 states. The PCIP runs alongside the existing state high-risk pools, offering more generous benefits and cheaper premiums.

Liz Fowler, Director for Policy in the Health Department's Office of Consumer Information, said the department was proud of how quickly it had rolled out the PCIP, especially compared with the time it took states to set up their earlier high-risk pools.

"A good comparison for just how quickly we were able to establish this program is to compare it to the time it took to establish high-risk pools that predated PCIP," said Fowler. "Those pools took more than a year to set up and sometimes several years to establish. These new PCIP programs were all established in a few months. The point is, we're proud of where we are."

The Health Department's Jay Angoff announced in a blog post that HHS would be providing new coverage options starting next year: "the Standard Plan, the Extended Plan, and the Health Savings Account eligible plan." Angoff wrote that families with eligible children will be able to enroll them at child-only rates.

Angoff wrote about a Denver woman named Johanna "who lost her insurance coverage after she lost her job... After she was diagnosed with depression, she found it impossible to obtain health insurance because depression is considered a pre-existing condition." The woman is now covered by the PCIP in Colorado, where the state runs the program and premiums range from $115 for children to $806 for a 60-year-old.

The new enrollment figures provided by HHS for the PCIP as of Nov. 1 represent the first update since the beginning of August, when only a few thousand people had even applied.

HHS refused to provide any more info before Thursday, despite numerous requests.

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WASHINGTON -- The health care reform program designed as a stopgap to provide insurance coverage for the uninsurable until the new law's major provisions take effect in 2014 has reached just 8,011 peo...
WASHINGTON -- The health care reform program designed as a stopgap to provide insurance coverage for the uninsurable until the new law's major provisions take effect in 2014 has reached just 8,011 peo...
 
 
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dems08
Above all... avoid the moor
04:17 PM on 11/06/2010
Most people can't afford the premiums, deductibles, and out-of pocket expenses.

for age 55+:

In Arizona (Plan Run by the U.S. Dept. of H & HS):

Premium: $688 per month
Deductible: $2500 per year
Out-of-pocket limit: $5,950 per year
Other: participant pays 20% after deductible met

In Oregon (Plan Run by the State):

Premium: $714 per month
Deductible: $500 per year
Out-of-pocket limit: $1,500 for medical, $4,450 for pharmacy per year
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dems08
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04:06 PM on 11/06/2010
Oregon (Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan Run by the State):

To qualify for coverage:

You must be a citizen or national of the United States or lawfully present in the United States.
You must have been uninsured for at least the last six months before you apply.
You must have had a problem getting insurance due to a pre-existing condition.

The Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan will cover a broad range of health benefits, including primary and specialty care, hospital care, and prescription drugs. All covered benefits are available for you, even if it’s to treat a pre-existing condition.

Premium: $221 to $714 per month

Deductible:
Plan 1: $500
Plan 2: $750

Out of Pocket Limit:

Plan 1:
$1,500 for medical, $4,450 for pharmacy

Plan 2:
$3,750 for medical, $2,200 for pharmacy

http://www.healthcare.gov/law/provisions/preexisting/states/or.html
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dems08
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03:55 PM on 11/06/2010
Arizona plan (Pre-Existing Condition Insurance Plan Run by the U.S. Dept. of H & HS):

Age - Monthly Premiums:

00-34 - $323
35-44 - $387
45-54 - $495
55+ - $688

In addition to your monthly premium, you will pay other costs.

Covered in-network services are subject to a $2,500 annual deductible (except for preventive services) before the plan starts to pay benefits.

Once you’ve met the deductible, you will pay a $25 copayment for doctor visits, $4 to $30 for most drugs at a retail pharmacy for the first two prescriptions and 50% of the cost of the prescriptions after that. If you use mail order, you will pay $10 for generic drugs or $75 for brand drugs on the plan formulary for a 90 day supply.

You will pay 20% of the cost of any other covered benefits received from a network provider.

Your out-of-pocket costs cannot be more than $5,950 per year.

https://www.pcip.gov/StatePlans.html
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dems08
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03:40 PM on 11/06/2010
$806 for a 60-year-old?

How many 60 year olds can afford that?
10:23 AM on 11/06/2010
Well, duh! The health insurance companies do not want to insure these people, so they offer coverage to comply with the law, but price it so high the sick people can't afford it. It's just another example of devious maneuvers by the profiteering health insurance company predators.
11:12 AM on 11/06/2010
Exactly. The new rules allow insurance companies to charge huge fees, i.e. $860 month. Are you kidding? Plus co-pays and RX co-pays - there might as well be no program. This was one of the compromises which makes the whole program so weak, watered down, and frankly no real achievement for Obama to boast about.
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lullu
We are only here once, it's not a rehearsal
10:04 AM on 11/06/2010
I heard yesterday, from an unreliable source I should add, that one of ways healthcare reform will be paid for, is that house sales will be subject to a 3% tax. Does anyone know if that is correct?
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drwtsn
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12:26 PM on 11/06/2010
I would consider you "unreliable source" unreliable. There is nothing in the healthcare bill about taxes on house sales.
09:42 AM on 11/06/2010
Most people just can't afford the insurance premiums - so this, much touted, caveat is basically worthless. Rates are going up all over the place, not what Obama promised.
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drwtsn
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12:40 PM on 11/06/2010
Obama never said premiums would go down, or stay the same, just that the healthcare bill would "bend the curve", which means that premiums wouldn't increase as fast as they were increasing before. Between increased co-pays and premiums, my healthcare costs had more than doubled in the last three years. Already, some states have been able to refuse (at least partially) premium increases because of the healthcare bill.

Until we move to "single payer" like the rest of the industrialized world, expect your healthcare costs to continue to increase. Insurance companies, who still own the system, care a whole lot more about their profits than about their customers (you).
Wupta
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09:41 AM on 11/06/2010
The failure of Obama to include the public option or drug importation in is healthcare bill is why the base left him and rightfully so, his reform was an insult to all of us that worked our butt to get there.
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BillForObama
Hail to the Chief! HAIL, he is the Chief!!!
03:09 PM on 11/06/2010
The failure is Congress (Blue Dogs -- Rethug-lite s and Rethugs), not President Obama.
Wupta
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09:31 AM on 11/06/2010
08:27 AM on 11/06/2010
Maybe its because we have to choose between insurance and a roof or food?
07:26 AM on 11/06/2010
Why enroll in any "Obamacare" insurance plan if the Republicans are just going to torpedo the whole thing?
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edejan
02:34 AM on 11/06/2010
Gee, who would have thought that high premiums would keep people with pre-existing conditions from flocking to the plans.
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chevy706
Fighting Liberals' Attack on Liberty.
02:15 AM on 11/06/2010
Thank you so much HP for this article. I've been telling people on here about this for a month, and naturally I've been repeatedly called a liar.

Just so we're all clear, this is Obama's major accomplishment in his first two years in office. Congratulations!
03:15 AM on 11/06/2010
I believe this particular idea of health care reform was taken from John McCain.
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chevy706
Fighting Liberals' Attack on Liberty.
03:59 AM on 11/06/2010
Blame whom you want. Fact is, Dems had the WH, the House, and with RINO Olympia Snowe on this project, you had a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. These advantages haven't been seen in my lifetime. This bill is the product of the Democrats. This was Obama's baby. This is what everybody pointed to as his major accomplishment. There's a reason that no matter what poll you look at, you can't find one that has more than 18% of people in favor of leaving the bill as is.

There has to be a reason that the Republicans made the largest gain in the house than either party has since 1948. Kid yourself into whatever you want, but an 18% at best approval rating of the Dem's crown jewel might be at least part of the reason for this dramatic shift, don't you think?
01:57 AM on 11/06/2010
What a crock. Pre-existing condition includes high cholesterol. Premium = $753 per month! Who can afford that?
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Stormyfyre
12:40 AM on 11/06/2010
Maybe its the fact that we dont know how to enroll in it?