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Jim Doyle: High-Speed Rail Decision Will Be Left To Scott Walker, Republican Successor For Governor, Who Has Vowed To Kill It

SCOTT BAUER   11/ 8/10 10:49 PM ET   AP

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MADISON, Wis. — High-speed rail projects in Wisconsin and Ohio appear close to derailment, with Wisconsin's outgoing governor saying Monday he'll leave the future of his state's project to his Republican successor, who has vowed to kill it, and Ohio's incoming governor saying again he plans scrap his state's project.

Jim Doyle, Wisconsin's outgoing Democratic governor, told The Associated Press that although he thinks a high-speed rail line to connect Milwaukee with Madison is a good idea, he feels obligated to leave the project's future up to Republican Gov.-elect Scott Walker.

Minutes after Doyle made his comments, Walker said he remains opposed to the $810 million project.

"My position remains the same," Walker said. "I don't see anything that would change my mind."

U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood sent a letter to Walker dated Monday that said unless the governor-elect changed his position, "we plan to engage in an orderly transition to wind down Wisconsin's project so that we do not waste taxpayers' money."

In Ohio, meanwhile, incoming Republican Gov. John Kasich wrote to outgoing Democratic Gov. Ted Strickland on Monday asking him to immediately cancel all passenger rail contracts to save taxpayer money.

Kasich sent letters to both Strickland and President Barack Obama telling them he doesn't plan to support developing a passenger line connecting Cincinnati, Columbus and Cleveland.

"As you are aware, I am opposed to this program and will terminate it upon taking office," Kasich wrote Strickland. "Given that, I am sure that you will agree that it would simply be wasteful to spend any additional money on this program. At a time when Ohio is facing an approximately $8 billion budget shortfall, every step should be taken to eliminate waste and prevent unnecessary spending."

Kasich asked the president to be allowed to use the state's $400 million rail allocation for other things. He said if that's not possible, the federal government should keep the money to help reduce the federal deficit.

Wisconsin's Walker made opposing the Milwaukee-Madison rail project a key part of his successful campaign against his Democratic opponent, Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, who supported it.

While building the line would be paid for with federal stimulus money, Walker objected to the state being on the hook for up to $7.5 million a year in ongoing operational costs. Doyle said he would expect about 80 percent of that to also be paid by the federal government.

"For us the bottom line is I don't believe long-term the state taxpayers can afford to have the high speed line between Milwaukee and Madison," Walker said.

Walker said the money would be better spent repairing roads and bridges, but LaHood said in his letter that the money could not be used for any purpose other than rail.

Proponents of the Wisconsin project argue that it doesn't make sense to stop a project expected to create 5,500 construction jobs during the next three years and 55 permanent jobs after it's up and running.

Doyle, who last week put the project on hold, said he still thinks it is a good idea. Stopping it will cost Wisconsin $14.25 million in money already spent, and put the state on the hook for about $83 million in upgrades to the existing line, the governor said. It also would result in more than 400 people currently working on the project being put out of work, mostly from private contractors, Doyle said.

But after Walker won election last week, Doyle said the prudent thing to do was to leave the project's future up to him.

"I could play brinksmanship with this issue and I could just plow forward and put people out at job sites," Doyle said. "We could spend or obligate hundreds of millions of dollars between now and the time I leave office. And while obviously part of me says, 'Just do that,' I really have to actually consider what the practical consequences of this are."

The state could spend between $250 million and $300 million before Walker takes over Jan. 3, Doyle said. But moving ahead could result in future lawsuits, force layoffs of people not yet hired, and cause undue disruption, Doyle said.

"I don't think that's in anybody's best interest," he said.

Madison Mayor Dave Cieslewicz, who supports the train, said Monday he still didn't think the project was dead. Cieslewicz said he thinks Walker's operating cost concerns could be addressed if an entity other than the state could be found to pick up the bill.

Barrett said Doyle was taking a "prudent approach" to the issue but he was very concerned about the state and city losing thousands of jobs.

The U.S. Department of Transportation has said the money will go to other states if Wisconsin doesn't want it.

Gov.-elect Andrew Cuomo in New York already sent the Department of Transportation a letter saying his state will be glad to use Wisconsin's and Ohio's rail money if the states scrap their projects. And trainmaker Talgo Inc. said it couldn't promise it will stay in Milwaukee or create the 125 jobs it had projected if Wisconsin bails on the project.

Doyle was an outspoken supporter of the line, which he said would be a key economic development tool linking Wisconsin's largest cities with Chicago and one day possibly extending north and west to the Twin Cities. The Madison train station was to be named after Doyle, who is leaving the governor's office after deciding not to seek a third term.

Doyle, who was meeting privately with Walker later Monday, said he wouldn't push the issue with him.

"Obviously I would love to see the train go forward," Doyle said. "I'm not going to give advice. ... My job isn't to tell him how to be governor."

In Ohio, Strickland's office said research on the state's high-speed rail project has many uses and that the governor does not plan to stop the work before leaving office. Spokeswoman Kelly Schlissberg said the contract is already executed and the study and planning work is well under way.

"Even for those who would send these resources and 16,000 Ohio jobs to New York or some other state, there is nothing to fear from obtaining the good information that this study will provide to policy makers in the near term as well as the long term," she said. "So even if the governor-elect chooses not to support rail when he takes office, future governors or legislators with a vision for a modern Ohio will have better information as a result of this work."

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Associated Press writer Julie Carr Smith in Columbus, Ohio, contributed to this report.

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06:44 PM on 11/10/2010
Whew...It would do more to reduce pollution etc.
06:43 PM on 11/10/2010
This money would be better spent on local transit. Getting around most cities is far more of an issue than getting between them. It do more to would reduce pollution, save time (money) and reduce citizens costs in maintaining their own vehicles. There are also self driving car technologies coming along that would make short rail projects obsolete in ten years.
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Moxo
Our enemies are in the GOP.
12:45 AM on 11/10/2010
As the US falls further and further behind it can only negatively impact our future.
Our Internet is slow; our cell-phone networks slower still; our roads falling apart... all spells doom.

Time to invest in buggy-whips, I guess.
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DandaPanda
I am not a republican
11:05 AM on 11/11/2010
lucky for me my horse pulls a cart....
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joemac1114
10:44 PM on 11/09/2010
Sure anything that makes economic sense for the poor folks and green sense has to be cut by republicans right away.
11:22 AM on 11/11/2010
How does it make sense for poor folks? The train would be just as expensive as purchasing a plane ticket.
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joemac1114
12:28 AM on 11/12/2010
The difference in price in Rail travel and air travel is significant in favor of rail.
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10:08 PM on 11/09/2010
The US is not as heavily populated in most area's like maybe France or Germany, but still there are plenty of region's that could greatly benefit from high speed rail.....say one from
Madison, Wis. to Chicago.....Indy...Cincy....Columbus.....Ann Arbor/Detroit.....Cleveland....

Opp's.....we spent ALL THAT MONEY ON WAR......and Then some $$$$$$

Iraq alone will cost YOU over $ 10,000....or the average family $ 40,000+......
Including interest on the debt for it it's going to cost OVER $ 4 TRILLION....
if that's hard to grasp how about $ 4 MILLION MILLIONS.......
as if the GOP destroyed over 40 Million $ 100,000 homes....for nothing !

I guess Republicans are willing to spend to DESTROY rather than Construct ?!
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DRaymond
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06:58 PM on 11/09/2010
I find this issue laughable, mostly because this is seriously described as high speed rail.  In We would be way better if we didn't try to please every single state with a bunch of piecemeal Milwaukee-Madison projects and picked just a couple of projects that had the capacity and distance to create a profitable true high speed rail connection and build them.  Do you think any other country approaches their high speed rail from the standpoint of dozens of tiny segments that we hope to connect someday?
For high speed rail to make money it needs to be able to offer competitive door to door travel times as air between a city pair with heavy air traffic.  This usually means less than 500 miles apart.  The most obvious choice is the LA-SF pair, which has over six million passengers annually and is 347 miles apart.  It is second only to LA-NY in air passenger volume but too far apart.
http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/Files/rc/reports/2009/1008_air_travel_tomer_puentes/1008_air_travel_appendix_3.pdf
04:11 PM on 11/09/2010
Rail or even better, car's that run on rail's, light cars, crash prof cars, with no drivers.
Google is refining the technology TODAY, we could be building it TODAY.
Light - Autonomous -Transportation, bringing lots of new, high paying jobs.
Cars that can run on high speed rail, coast to coast..

Only problem is, a few cowards have there messily fortunes invested in the status quo, and would have to give up there death march and grow a set. [Not gonna happen]

ha, ha, ha, ha, so keep driving, burning fuel, until it's way too late, ah, to too late, BURN BABY BURN..

it's all so rich, then it will all fall, and a new world will rise up from the ash...
So don't worry, just lay back and enjoy...
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DickTater
American Livestock
02:35 PM on 11/09/2010
Stoopid republican reasoning, again. Public Transportation does NOT pay for itself, and that is always the criteria the STOOPIDS use. What public transportation DOES do is make those communities more affluent, helps the citizens, helps businesses, makes your population and area more viable. Less pollution, less wear and tear, less road building, less road maintenance.

In WI, like most states...the road building lobby uses the state as a piggy bank and ramrods road deals through, even if they make no sense or don't need building. Because they have learned how to buy politicians and DNR and others and get the projects OK'd over the heads of the citizens, or wise politicians who don't want them.

You get the money back with public transportation, usually in spades, you just don't get it from the collected receipts from ridership.
12:42 PM on 11/09/2010
Big oil wins again. Repubs are all bribe takers from big oil - America deserves the wars it gets and the dead soldiers that pile up for more oil.
10:45 AM on 11/09/2010
Sigh. Save a penny, lose a grand. Building this high speed rail system would have provided jobs now, and saved money on highway maintenance, car repairs, health care costs, environmental mitigation expenses, etc. Plus, it would have set these cities up for future success as infrastructure.

Meanwhile, they do nothing to restrain the wealthy people whose greed has caused this economic meltdown.

sigh.
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09:49 AM on 11/09/2010
90 miles from Milwaukee to Madison . the benefits are dubious
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
10:15 PM on 11/09/2010
That's not an accurate representation of the plans. Not even close.
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02:28 AM on 11/10/2010
what did I get wrong? the mileage?
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JTCan
09:47 AM on 11/09/2010
So...that is how he creates jobs? By shutting down projects and canceling contracts?
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gallon
Those who fail to remember history are, um
10:16 PM on 11/09/2010
And that's just his first week! Wait until Walker gets rolling.
11:24 AM on 11/11/2010
55 permanent jobs is not the end of the world.
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JTCan
11:57 AM on 11/11/2010
It's not just 55 jobs...it is so much more. There's all the companies whose products are needed to build it and all the jobs that saves, the pollution reduction, the future of transportation needs keeping up with the rest of the world....to name a few.
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Leigh49
Hey, you, get off of my cloud
09:26 AM on 11/09/2010
Europe, Japan and many other countries put American to shame with their high-speed rail systems. How can we be "exceptional" when we are always behind?
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silverwolf13
I know that I do not know.
05:56 PM on 11/10/2010
That's American exceptionalism, 21st Century style. Proud to be stupid!
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Leigh49
Hey, you, get off of my cloud
09:18 AM on 11/09/2010
They are against supporting American car companies and they are against public transportation. So that must mean they want everyone to buy a Toyota or Honda.
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09:46 AM on 11/09/2010
which are made in the US
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Leigh49
Hey, you, get off of my cloud
09:14 AM on 11/09/2010
Maybe Coke will pay for it. You can paint it red and white.