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What Is Waterboarding? A Controversial Interrogation Tactic Bush Defends Authorizing

The Huffington Post   First Posted: 11/09/10 12:25 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:10 PM ET

What Is Waterboarding George W Bush

In an interview that aired on Monday night with NBC News host Matt Lauer, former President George W. Bush spoke out on the controversial interrogation technique of waterboarding, which put his administration under fire for its use on detained terror suspects during his years in the White House.

Critics describe waterboarding as torture and dispute the legalities of its practice; however, Bush said in the one-on-one broadcast on the eve of the release of his new memoir, Decision Points, that he has no regrets and would sign-off on using the tactic again.

The Washington Post reports:

[Lauer] asked Bush why he believed that waterboarding was legal, a topic of significant dispute.

"Because the lawyer said it was legal," Bush replied. "He said it did not fall within the anti-torture act. I'm not a lawyer. But you gotta trust the judgment of people around you, and I do."

He has been widely criticized for directing the lawyers to reach that conclusion, on which there is no legal consensus.

"Using those techniques saved lives," Bush said. "My job was to protect America. And I did."

Pressed on whether U.S. soldiers could be exposed to waterboarding because Americans have deployed it, Bush grew irritated and defensive. "All I ask is that people read the book," he said, adding that he would make the same decision again today.

HuffPost's Nick Wing reported last week:

"Damn right."

That's what former president George W. Bush told CIA officials when they came to ask him for permission to waterboard alleged 9/11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed, according to a Washington Post report on the 43rd president's forthcoming book, "Decision Points."

Mohammed supposedly had knowledge of brewing terrorist plots against the United States, and Bush had little reservation about using the practice of simulated drowning on the detainee to extract them.

"I'd do it again to save lives," Bush, who refused to call the interrogation technique "torture" during his presidency, said at a forum earlier this year. He repeats this willingness to use the procedure and maintains that it isn't torture in his book, according to the Post.

President Obama and the current Justice Department have tightened their view on waterboarding, characterizing it as an act of torture that is prohibited by international stricture, and, while the Post reports that there may someday be legal repercussions for those who directly authorized torture, the Obama administration has shown little interest in pursuing action against Bush and others, such as Dick Cheney, who have openly supported and admitted using the interrogation tactic.


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In an interview that aired on Monday night with NBC News host Matt Lauer, former President George W. Bush spoke out on the controversial interrogation technique of waterboarding, which put his adminis...
In an interview that aired on Monday night with NBC News host Matt Lauer, former President George W. Bush spoke out on the controversial interrogation technique of waterboarding, which put his adminis...
 
 
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09:38 PM on 11/10/2010
Why not put the question of torture to rest and have Bush undergo the procedure so that he will at last be convinced that lawyers were never needed to reach the conclusion on which there is no legal consensus. I just wish the earth would open and swallow him up.
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06:31 PM on 11/09/2010
During WWII, Germany exterminated human beings because they thought it was good for the future of the German people. The question was not whether or not it was right to exterminate human beings, but whether or not such exterminations were for the greater good of the German masses. We all know the outcome of this immoral quest "for the sake of the people."

The US Government tortures human beings in the US, Iraq, Afghanistan and renditions countless others to be tortured abroad because torture, it is argued, "saves innocent lives." The question is not whether or not it is right to torture human beings, but whether or not torture works for the greater good of the masses.

Yes, there is an ugly parallel between Germany and the US -- one rooted in the idea that crimes against humanity are acceptable as long as they support the illusory end of serving the "greater good of the masses." That it has come to this should be unacceptable to every American who sees the danger in this kind of moral corruption.
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scottie1321
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01:42 PM on 11/09/2010
Can anyone tell me exactly just how many people we water-boarded total?
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PitBull6
03:03 PM on 11/09/2010
I think it's three.
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05:14 PM on 11/09/2010
No. You'd have to include all the detainees tortured in Iraq, all detainees tortured at Bagram, in Afghanistan, all detainees tortured at Gitmo; and then there are the untold number of individuals who were renditioned and tortured who would have to be added to the count. So if you want a total number, you'd need a full investigation which is why they've destroyed evidence of torture and maintain that only 3 people have been tortured. Torture is illegal. Torture is a war crime.
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Passerineblue
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09:11 AM on 11/11/2010
Hello??? The question is literally unanswerable. Did George give you that number or Rumsfeld? Seriously, how will we ever know?
01:34 PM on 11/09/2010
I still don't see any problem with waterboarding terrorists.....
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PatLow
A karate man bruises on the inside
05:51 PM on 11/09/2010
Its proven to be a poor interrogation method and is considered a form of torture by the rest of the developed world.
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Bronxdude
Integrity has no need of rules
01:15 PM on 11/09/2010
CIA Director George Tenet lies about Iraq possessing WMDs, Bush gives him the Medal of Freedom, and republicans are silent. Bush refuses to veto pork-laden republican authored spending bills, and Boehner is silent. Bush ignores intelligence, America suffers its worst terrorist attack, and Boehner is silent. Underwear bomber Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab is trained by Al-Qaeda terrorists released from Gitmo under Bush, and Boehner is silent. The Bush Justice Department tries Zacarias Moussaoui, José Padilla, and Richard Reed in civilian court, allows them to “lawyer-up,” and Boehner is quiet. Bush guts the Geneva Conventions, authorizes torture, and Boehner is silent. Bush ignores risky subprime mortgage derivatives, America dances on the precipice of economic annihilation, and Boehner is silent. Bush guts Fourth Amendment, authorizes warrantless eavesdropping on Americans, and Boehner is silent. Bush diverts billions from the counter-terrorism War in Afghanistan, Osama escapes, and Boehner is silent. Bush sends troops to war with no body amour, and Boehner is silent. Bush releases dozens of terrorists from Gitmo to Yemen, and Boehner is silent. Bush restores cronyism, unqualified Liz Cheney is handed a cushy job at the State Department, and Boehner is silent. Obama restores America’s creditability abroad, and Boehner labels him a “socialist.” Hypocrisy: cherished plank in the republican platform.
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Bronxdude
Integrity has no need of rules
01:15 PM on 11/09/2010
It should be quite obvious by now that republican operatives within the CIA and FBI deliberately withheld intelligence about Nigerian terror suspect Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab in an effort to discredit President Obama, muster republican support for midterm elections, and escalate the “War on Terror.” The same poorly constructed strategy was used 8 months into the Bush Administration when the Neocons deliberately ignored solid intelligence, 3,000 Americans died, and Bush won popular support to democratize the Middle East via invading Iraq. Nigerian terror suspect Umar Farouk Abdul Mutallab was recruited and trained by al-Qaeda terrorists released from Guantanamo under the Bush Administration, a fact Cheney seems to conveniently forget every time he crawls out from his “undisclosed location” to nip at Obama’s heels.
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Bronxdude
Integrity has no need of rules
01:10 PM on 11/09/2010
After eight years of the Bush/Cheney cabal, government under Obama can’t be trusted? Yeah, right! Republicans like Gingrich asked the American public to trust Bush about the intelligence concerning the Iraq War and look what happen. At this juncture, republicans are attempting to rewrite their epilogue, abdicate culpability, regain favor, and distance themselves from the atrocities attributable to the Bush/Cheney years, a period in history when republicans controlled both houses of Congress, succumbed to barbarism, abandoned integrity, and wrongly believed their power unassailable and without consequence. The republican capacity to suspend and simultaneously create reality is impressive, yet hypocritical and scary. In fact, the Bush/Cheney excursion into Iraq to spread capitalism under the guise of democracy continues to serve as a constantly evolving and highly effective recruitment tool for Islamic extremist organizations. So, in the final analysis, the only kind of government Gingrich wants Americans to trust is a republican led government. Wrong!
12:52 PM on 11/09/2010
Bush self admitted to ordering WAR CRIMES !

Now America needs to try Bush and convict Bush !
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PitBull6
03:04 PM on 11/09/2010
I heard him admit to ordering interrogations.
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PatLow
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05:53 PM on 11/09/2010
And directing his legal advisors to make the case that waterbording is not torture. They stretched the intent of the GC to serve this purpose.
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Bronxdude
Integrity has no need of rules
12:27 PM on 11/09/2010
If Dick Cheney was President, what was George's title?
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tribalogical
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06:11 PM on 11/09/2010
Little Dick, maybe?
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Bronxdude
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12:27 PM on 11/09/2010
As compared to the 23 million jobs democrats created during 8 years of the Clinton Administration (and the 3 million jobs Obama has created in only 21 months, despite republican opposition), under 8 years of Bush, republicans create only 2 million jobs and loss more than 8 million, primarily through republican legislated deregulation that allowed corporations to outsource manufacturing jobs to India and China. Republicans are very adept at creating deception, when facts get in the way.
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PitBull6
03:05 PM on 11/09/2010
Nice fuzzy math. Did Clinton and Obama have a "job creation" button that Bush didn't have?
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tribalogical
FANTASYLAND is over there, on the right.
06:12 PM on 11/09/2010
yes, "economic stimulus" packages...
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Bronxdude
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12:26 PM on 11/09/2010
Republicans are very adept at creating deception, when facts get in the way. As protectors of the wealthy, since the 80s, republicans have specialized in deficit expansion, as evidenced by Reagan increasing the deficit by 189%, Bush 41 by 55% and Bush 43 by 89%. Under Bush 43, income for the top 2% rose 255%, while income for the bottom 98% rose only 3%. During the decade republicans controlled congress and the presidency, they were the central protagonists of deficit expansion. Starting in 2005 with the aptly nicknamed “Dick Cheney Lobbyist Energy Bill,” republicans gave billions in unfunded subsidies, no-bid contracts and tax breaks to oil and gas companies. From 2001 to 2008, an era of record deficit expansion, Boehner and McConnell borrowed money from China to give $1.4 trillion in tax cuts to the wealthy, and now they want to erase their deficit by abolishing minimum wage and privatizing social security. Not satisfied with destroying the middleclass and driving our economy into a ditch, Boehner and McConnell are now proposing to borrow even more money from China so Bush’s tax cuts can be extended for the wealthy—insanity! In their latest piece of chicanery, Republicans—with marching orders from the Koch brothers—are falsely claiming that cap-and-trade legislation, which is aimed at making corporations like Koch Industries pay for the pollution they create, will cause the outsourcing of American jobs. Rubbish! Just like they destroyed the middleclass, republicans don’t mind destroying the environment for profit.
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12:26 PM on 11/09/2010
Who drove the economy into a ditch and left the nation unsafe? 9/11 – worst terrorist attack in American history – occurs during republican administration, and tea klansmen are silent. Duplicitous republican sock-puppets lie to manipulate patriotism, invade Iraq, and tea klansmen are silent. Bush squanders Clinton surplus, triples deficit, and tea klansmen are silent. Bush appoints horse trader to head FEMA, thousands die in the aftermath of Katrina, and tea klansmen are silent. Bush guts Geneva Conventions, authorizes torture, and tea klansmen are silent. Bush supports subprime mortgage derivatives, deregulates financial industry, America dances on the precipice of economic annihilation, and tea klansmen are silent. Bush ignores Fourth Amendment, weakens Constitutional rights, authorizes warrantless wiretaps, and tea klansmen are silent. Bush signs Prescription Drug Bill, largest subsidized give-away in history, and tea klansmen are silent. Bush allows Osama to escape from Afghanistan, and tea klansmen are silent. Bush signs unfunded NCLB legislation, the most intrusive, unfunded federal law in history, and tea klansmen are quiet. Bush sends troops to war with no body amour, thousands die, and tea klansmen are silent. Republican deregulation exposes millions to toxic products from China, and tea klansmen are silent. Republican deregulation kills and injures hundreds of miners, and tea klansmen are quiet. Staffed during the Bush Administration with Halliburton lackeys, acoustic safety “shut-off” switches are banned by the Minerals Management Service, republicans scream “drill, baby, drill,” largest preventable oil leak in history occurs, and tea klansmen are silent. Hypocrisy!
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Luv2Purple
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10:59 AM on 11/09/2010
WAR CRIMINAL - and a coward too....sat and read "My Pet Goat" for SEVEN MINUTES after being told "Mr President, the country is under attack"
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tribalogical
FANTASYLAND is over there, on the right.
06:16 PM on 11/09/2010
He didn't need to worry about it. He knew Dick was at the helm… the whole plan was rolling out, and Dubya wasn't really needed at that moment… on the contrary, it was a better contrasting photo-op having him reading a book to kids when the "tear'wrists struck…", then trying to look serious and concerned…
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09:59 AM on 11/09/2010
When asked by Matt on this interview about water boarding and how the President claimed it is legal because a lawyer told it was cracked me up. This lawyer was told to write a legal brief to cover the President on this. It isn't legal and the President committed a crime when he ok'd its use.
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09:33 AM on 11/09/2010
Waterboarding is drowning, not "simulated" drowning, not a "controversial interrogation technique". It is easy to kill someone with this technique. It has been prosecuted since 1947. It i's torture.
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PitBull6
03:08 PM on 11/09/2010
It is simulated drowning, in that it simulates the effects of drowning. There is no water entering the lungs.
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PatLow
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05:46 PM on 11/09/2010
It is also proven to be usless as an interrogation method. The information KSM had did not get extracted as a result of waterbording him hundreds of times over 30 days, rather it happened when the FBI took over and implemented modern/proven methods of interrogation.
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Passerineblue
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09:22 AM on 11/11/2010
But the body reacts as if water IS entering the lungs, so that's why it's called "simulated" drowning. The victim's body thinks it's being drowned. In other words, to put it philosophically, the victim is being drowned and due to the body's response, over which he has no, control, he will say anything to "make it stop." Even Sartre thought using torture on someone to overcome their free will was evil.