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Bush's Waterboarding Admission Prompts Calls For Criminal Probe

First Posted: 11/11/10 03:49 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:10 PM ET

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WASHINGTON -- The American Civil Liberties Union on Thursday joined a growing chorus in the human rights community calling for a special prosecutor to investigate whether former president George W. Bush violated federal statutes prohibiting torture.

In his new memoir and ensuing book tour, Bush has repeatedly admitted that he directly authorized the waterboarding of three terror suspects. Use of the waterboard, which creates the sensation of drowning, has been an iconic and almost universally condemned form of torture since the time of the Spanish Inquisition.

Except for a brief period during which a handful of Bush administration lawyers insisted that the exigencies of interrogating terror suspects justified its use, waterboarding has always been considered illegal by the Justice Department. It is also a clear violation of international torture conventions.

The ACLU is urging Attorney General Eric Holder to ask Assistant U.S. Attorney John Durham to investigate Bush. For nearly three years now, Durham has been acting as a special prosecutor investigating a variety of torture-related matters involving government officials considerably lower on the food chain. Just this Tuesday, it was widely reported that Durham had cleared the CIA's former top clandestine officer and others in the destruction of agency videotapes showing waterboarding of terror suspects -- but that he would continue pursuing other aspects of his investigation.

"The ACLU acknowledges the significance of this request, but it bears emphasis that the former President's acknowledgment that he authorized torture is absolutely without parallel in American history," the group wrote in its letter to Holder.

"The admission cannot be ignored. In our system, no one is above the law or beyond its reach, not even a former president. That founding principle of our democracy would mean little if it were ignored with respect to those in whom the public most invests its trust. It would also be profoundly unfair for Mr. Durham to focus his inquiry on low-level officials charged with implementing official policy but to ignore the role of those who authorized or ordered the use of torture."

In his new memoir, "Decision Points," Bush recalls his thought process after CIA director George Tenet asked for permission to waterboard alleged al Qaeda mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in early 2003. Bush's response: "Damn right."

In an interview with the Times of London published this week, Bush used that language again, this time with feeling. James Harding described asking Bush if he authorized the use of the waterboard on Mohammed.

"Damn right!" he barks. "We capture the guy, the chief operating officer of al-Qaeda, who kills 3,000 people. We felt he had the information about another attack. He says: 'I'll talk to you when I get my lawyer.' I say: 'What options are available and legal?' "

In an interview with NBC's Matt Lauer, Bush explained himself this way:

We believe America's going to be attacked again. There's all kinds of intelligence comin' in. And-- and-- one of the high value al Qaeda operatives was Khalid Sheik Mohammed, the chief operating officer of al Qaeda... ordered the attack on 9/11. And they say, "He's got information." I said, "Find out what he knows." And so I said to our team, "Are the techniques legal?" He says, "Yes, they are." And I said, "Use 'em."


LAUER: Why is waterboarding legal, in your opinion?

BUSH: Because the lawyer said it was legal. He said it did not fall within the Anti-Torture Act. I'm not a lawyer, but you gotta trust the judgment of people around you and I do.

The so-called "Torture Memos" were drafted by officials in the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel under the strict supervision of the vice president's office -- and were withdrawn within a matter of months when other Bush lawyers found them utterly unjustifiable.

For the record, the first time Bush admitted his direct role in waterboarding was actually back in early June, when he casually acknowledged what he'd done and said he'd do it again.

"Yeah, we waterboarded Khalid Sheikh Mohammed," Bush told the Economic Club of Grand Rapids, Mich., in a paid appearance. "I'd do it again to save lives."

I wrote at the time about the outraged response from some former military and intelligence officials.

Rep. Jerrold Nadler, the New York Democrat who (for now) chairs the House Subcommittee on the Constitution, Civil Rights and Civil Liberties, called for a criminal investigation into Bush's conduct on Tuesday.

He told MSBNC host Ed Schultz on Wednesday:

[T]he United States has always considered waterboarding torture except during the Bush administration. We prosecuted Japanese generals for waterboarding people. We prosecuted American soldiers for waterboarding people and pressed that cage. The current attorney general Mr. Holder has said that waterboarding is torture. We`ve always regarded it as torture and under our statute, under our international law, we are bound to prosecute. The president has a duty under the constitution to take care the laws of faith to be executed and now that former President Bush said that he personally ordered waterboarding, there must be at least an investigation and a special prosecutor.

Nadler called Bush's admission a "smoking gun." But, he said, he was dubious that Holder would act.

"Judging by the record of this attorney general, he will not pay attention, he will not respond," Nadler said. The reason: "[T]his administration, unfortunately, has taken the opinion -- has taken the attitude that they`re not going to look at any criminal actions within the prior administration. They say, let`s look forward, not backward, by that standard no one would ever prosecute any crime and this is a violation of our obligations under the torture treaty, under the torture convention, that Ronald Reagan signed."

Also on Tuesday, a Republican suggested for the first time that a torture investigation in Congress might not be out of the question. As Think Progress reported, Rep. Jason Chaffetz (R-UT) told MSNBC's Dylan Ratigan that he's "not afraid of going after the Bush administration."

Amnesty International called for a criminal investigation on Wednesday.

"Under international law, anyone involved in torture must be brought to justice, and that does not exclude former President George W. Bush. If his admission is substantiated, the USA has the obligation to prosecute him," said senior director Claudio Cordone. "In the absence of a US investigation, other states must step in and carry out such an investigation themselves."

Indeed, British human rights lawyer Geoffrey Robertson was quoted in the British press this week as saying Bush's admission could leave him open to arrest and possible prosecution if he visits countries that have ratified the UN torture convention.

That includes a good chunk of the globe.

"George W Bush has confessed to ordering waterboarding, which in the view of almost all experts clearly passes the severe pain threshold in the definition of torture in international law," Robertson said. "[H]e is an ex-head of state so he is not entitled to immunity from arrest and trial."

Robertson added: "So his retirement travel plans may well be circumscribed, although he never ventured abroad before he became President, and no doubt made the statements in his book having been advised of this potential consequence."

Here's the full text of the ACLU letter:

Dear Attorney General Holder:


The American Civil Liberties Union respectfully urges you to refer to Assistant U.S. Attorney John Durham the question of whether former president George W. Bush's conduct related to the interrogation of detainees by the United States violated the anti-torture statute. See 18 U.S.C. § 2340A.

In his recently published memoirs, President Bush discusses his authorization of the waterboarding of Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Abu Zubaydah. He states, for example, that he "approved the use of the [enhanced] interrogation techniques," including waterboarding, on Abu Zubaydah, and that he responded to a request to waterboard Khalid Sheik Mohammed by stating: "Damn right." George W. Bush, Decision Points 169-70 (2010).

The Department of Justice has made clear that waterboarding is torture and, as such, a crime under the federal anti-torture statute. 18 U.S.C. § 2340A(c). The United States has historically prosecuted waterboarding as a crime. In light of the admission by the former President, and the legally correct determination by the Department of Justice that waterboarding is a crime, you should ensure that Mr. Durham's current investigation into detainee interrogations encompasses the conduct and decisions of former President Bush.
The ACLU acknowledges the significance of this request, but it bears emphasis that the former President's acknowledgement that he authorized torture is absolutely without parallel in American history. The admission cannot be ignored. In our system, no one is above the law or beyond its reach, not even a former president. That founding principle of our democracy would mean little if it were ignored with respect to those in whom the public most invests its trust. It would also be profoundly unfair for Mr. Durham to focus his inquiry on low-level officials charged with implementing official policy but to ignore the role of those who authorized or ordered the use of torture.

Failure to fully investigate the role of the former President in the use of torture would also severely compromise our ability to advocate for human rights in other countries. The United States has been a champion of that cause for over half a century. Recently, while in Indonesia, President Obama urged that country to acknowledge the human rights abuses of the Suharto regime. He stated unequivocally that "[w]e can't go forward without looking backwards." Without suggesting that our own experience is equivalent, it is clear that the United States's authority to push for such accountability in other countries, and the willingness of those countries to follow our advice, would quickly unravel if we failed even to investigate abuses authorized by our own officials.

The ACLU understands the gravity of this matter and appreciates the difficulty of the Department of Justice's task. A nation committed to the rule of law, however, cannot simply ignore evidence that its most senior leaders authorized torture.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. For your convenience, I am attaching the ACLU's letter of March 17, 2009, in which we asked you to appoint an independent prosecutor to investigate crimes relating to the abuse of detainees.

Sincerely,

Anthony D. Romero


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10:19 AM on 11/23/2010
Ford pardoned Nixon and lost re-election. If Bush torture confessions turn viral, Obama faces tough "decision point" – http://bit.ly/hwQ7NN
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Longtimeliberal
12:21 PM on 11/21/2010
I don't see how we avoid an investigaion in good conscious. Other countries are calling for his detention and frankly it hurts us in the world. We can't have one standard for others and not for others. This is ridiculous. I have no doubt he would be pardoned but at least he would be called out on this. I couldn't believe that he came out practically bragging. It was embarressing.
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MidwestHeart
Progressive Ideas Make Life Better For All
10:09 PM on 11/15/2010
To those who say we are angry and whining when we speak out against torture: If you were unfortunate enough to be tortured or abused in any way, we would be speaking out for you, too.
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Longtimeliberal
12:23 PM on 11/21/2010
Thank you. But for the grace of God go I. I don't think there really are many Christians around.
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ThomasPaine1776
Left is right; Right is wrong
01:16 AM on 11/14/2010
If a lawyer said that it's okay to murder someone or to rob a liquor store, that does not absolve any responsibility for having broken the law. The only result of breaking a law on advice of a lawyer is that the reputation of the lawyer would go down, and the client would become a perpetrator and, hopefully, a convict.
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F Grey Parker
Activist, musician, writer. Restaurant biz refugee
01:04 AM on 11/14/2010
After WW2, we tried the lawyers and judges who drafted and enforced the Nuremburg laws. I am WAY less interested in arguing for a criminal prosecution for ex-President Gumby than I am for Marc Thiessen and John Yoo.
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dhinds
A Collection of Quotable Gems
01:09 PM on 11/14/2010
The POTUS can seek or not seek, heed or not heed, advice from any member of his administration, but responsibility for the President's intervention (having acted based on that opinion) rests with him and not his source of information (or misinformation). He could have sought an additional opinion, and he could have based his actions on his own sensitivities, conscience and common sense.

It may not be a crime to be stupid or callous but it's also no excuse for the POTUS authorizing the gross infringement of the civil rights of ANYONE (the Bill of Rights is not reserved for US citizens but rather "Persons").
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F Grey Parker
Activist, musician, writer. Restaurant biz refugee
03:24 PM on 11/15/2010
You are quite correct. Point taken.
12:16 AM on 11/14/2010
has anyone heard anything about ksm--they clown who allegedly terrrorized that wsj reporter--being illegally held in ?gitmo or bagrham?? without being given a public trial?? this is just some faux news effort to rile us up? right?? isnt Mr Mohammed going to face a CIVILIAN trial in NYC?? werent we promised that?? Lets push back on this disinformATION campaign!! the FASCISTS must be defeated!!
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08:34 PM on 11/13/2010
This is one reason I never can allow anyone to suggest the "democratic" or "republican", "liberal" or "conservative" parties have anything over on each other regarding who cares about human rights or civil rights more. Aside from the fact people are still complaining about how terrorists may have been treated after 9-11. Aside from the insistence to continue whining about former President Bush rather than look at what is before us. Aside from the beyond average hypocrisy and label obsessed garbage, I have to say the worst of it here is the ACLU. The ACLU refuses to answer any calls to do something about the TORTURE (and yes, the UN has even commented on this torture) here in the USA at the Judge Rotenberg Center in Canton Massachusetts. For 38 years, through democrat and republican administrations, the torture, abuse, discrimination, isolation, and segregation has thrived. Forgive me if I continue to call BS when any person, group or organization insists they give a damn when they ignore JRC. Forgive me if I continue to let you know you have bored me with your pointing fingers at "the other guy" or "the other party" when you have failed just as miserably.
Do some research. The terror against people based on their difference in ability did not end in the 1950's. It is thriving here, now. We all should be ashamed.
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dhinds
A Collection of Quotable Gems
01:29 PM on 11/14/2010
I don't mean to minimize the gravity of the abuse you refer to but I don't think that posting it to this thread is the best way to draw attention to it.

Furthermore, those directly affected by it are the most indicated parties to initiate potentially corrective measures using existing legal channels.

On searching, I see that the Judge Rotenberg Center in Canton Massachusetts maintains a "Residential Program Treating Behavior Disorders". I also see that their methods have generated some controversy:

www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&gid=4614812683

www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5879127059

http://www.brianajoyce.com/pressreleases/un-finds-shock-treatments-judge-rotenberg-center-canton-be-torture

and

www.secretprisonsforteens.dk/fornitswiki/index.php/Judge_Rotenberg_Center

among others.
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MidwestHeart
Progressive Ideas Make Life Better For All
10:07 PM on 11/15/2010
I differ only in that I think this thread is a good place for this comment because people are here who care about the cruelties suffered by others, mostly total strangers. There is a shared humanity.
04:51 PM on 11/13/2010
SENATE DEMOCRATS MUST OPEN A FULL THOROUGH INVESTIGATION OF WHETHER OR NOT MITCH MCCONNALL URGED BUSH TO WITHDRAW TROOPS TO HELP THE REPUBS IN ELECTION 2006.
IF HE DID - THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE TO KNOW AND THE REPUBS MUST REMOVE HIM FROM HIS POST AS SENATE MINORITY LEADER.
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dhinds
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01:06 PM on 11/13/2010
If the Obama Administration refuses to pursue the crimes committed by the previous administration, perhaps the time has come to seriously consider creating an alternative political option.
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Tuigim
The perils of benefactors...
02:52 PM on 11/13/2010
Yes.
Kucinich was my choice.
We also need more parties.
We also need journalism. Make them earn broadcast licences with proven abilty and qualifications.
We also need proportional representational.
We also need to take money out of the equation.
We also need to criminalize lobbying (bribery).
We also need to dedicate equal air time for all candidates as part of broadcast licence.
Those who do not talk on issues should not be allowed to run for office.
SĂ­, se puede.
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ThomasPaine1776
Left is right; Right is wrong
01:19 AM on 11/14/2010
I shook Dennis Kucinich's hand one time. It was Thanksgiving, a couple of years ago in Acton, Ca. at a "feed the turkey's" thing for Vegans at an animal rescue ranch. Very cool. I was honored to shake his hand and say "Attaboy Dennis" and clapped him on the back as he went by....then i looked around for his wife. ;)
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dhinds
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08:33 AM on 11/14/2010
"Kucinich was my choice".

Dennis was probably the most congruent of the 8, although I'm not sure that he can be elected as POTUS.

"We also need more parties.
"We also need journalism. Make them earn broadcast licences with proven abilty and qualifications.
"We also need proportional representational.
"We also need to take money out of the equation.
"We also need to criminalize lobbying (bribery).
"We also need to dedicate equal air time for all candidates as part of broadcast licence.
"Those who do not talk on issues should not be allowed to run for office.

All of the above can be contained in a single Electoral Reform Initiative designed to create a Foundation for the Political Process that responds to the Public (rather than private economic) Interest(s).

In order to achieve that (and remove money from Politics) an autonomous Federal Electoral Institute (in which all parties participate) must be created, which will organize and oversee the electoral process, as well as provide the public funds political campaigns will require to promote their particular electoral offerings.

However - in light of the current composition of the SCOTUS, no opportunity to implement the needed controls exists, so this will have toi be a long term operation, contingent on the direction the country takes in the future.

"SĂ­, se puede."

Que se puede se puede, pero en los EE.UU. los intereses creaedas estan muy poderosos.

Gotta run - More later. (This is worth doing).
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Tuigim
The perils of benefactors...
12:34 PM on 11/13/2010
http://www­.change.or­g/petition­s/view/inv­estigate_f­ormer_pres­_george_w_­bush_for_t­orture
Sign to investigate Bush for torture crime
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Tuigim
The perils of benefactors...
12:37 PM on 11/13/2010
Huffpo - can you help me get the link going here?
http://www­­.change.o­r­g/petiti­on­s/view/­inv­estiga­te_f­ormer­_pres­_geo­rge_w_­bus­h_for_t­or­turen
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Tuigim
The perils of benefactors...
12:22 PM on 11/13/2010
Petition
http://www­.change.or­g/petition­s/view/inv­estigate_f­ormer_pres­_george_w_­bush_for_t­orture
Sign to investigate Bush for torture crime
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AmeriGus
Wore On Terror
11:35 AM on 11/13/2010
I remember W saying in an interview at the time was just going to leave it all for the lawyers to figure out.

Why don't we have the lawyers work it all out then?
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PC Contrarian
Political Correctnes­s is the opiate of the left.
08:30 AM on 11/13/2010
Here's the pertinent question:
If you knew that your spouse or child was going to die,
unless someone was water boarded to get the necessary info to save your family,
would you authorize the water boarding?
10:25 AM on 11/13/2010
And when does that ever happen?
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PC Contrarian
Political Correctnes­s is the opiate of the left.
10:52 AM on 11/13/2010
When you're president and expected to value the lives of other Americans as much as your own family.
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11:34 AM on 11/13/2010
Happens every single day, just not in your little world. Push away from your machine and there is a world outside your door that is begging for food, water, medicines that save spouses and children. And then there are the bad guys making sure they don't get it. Happens every single day. Now go do something about it...
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Tuigim
The perils of benefactors...
12:54 PM on 11/13/2010
It doesn't work. People will say what they think you want to hear to save themsleves. They have to guess what you want to hear. They are trying to read your mind to find a way to stop you hurting them. Whatever they say is not credible. They are trying to repond with a reply that would suit a cruel and unreasonable person. if you are not reasonable, why do you expect truth?
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01:56 PM on 11/13/2010
Oh it works Tuigim it works. If you give out false information the uncomfortable resumes. It works well see any buildings going down lately? They try and test, threaten everyday and will so indefinitely it looks like whether we try to appease them or not. Sleep well knowing that rough people do their jobs on your behalf 24/7. You may not like it, but stinging an enemy before they get to the hive is job #1. Everything else is depending on it. The "W" was right this is gonna suck for a long time.
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PC Contrarian
Political Correctnes­s is the opiate of the left.
08:28 AM on 11/13/2010
As a matter of principle, I'm opposed to torture. The question is are we safer now that Obama has substituted water boarding with expanded drone attacks? I think not.

The larger question is why is the left continuing to bash a policy that doesn't exist any longer, when it has been replaced with a far more brutal approach? One that doesn't win the hearts and minds of Muslims, but is creating more enemies.
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SIMPLICIMUSS
Kampf gegen Dummheit !
10:02 AM on 11/13/2010
Apparently the water boarding tactic was only used against three individuals who were guilty. one way or the other, of crimes against th US. If it saved one American lifr,it was well worth it. On the other hand, the Obama Drone attacks are against ____ ???? If a Drone missile takes out a house that just happens to kill an innocent family next store, who is more guilty of crimes against humanity ??
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PC Contrarian
Political Correctnes­s is the opiate of the left.
10:55 AM on 11/13/2010
This is the question that self-righteous leftists avoid at all costs.
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11:24 AM on 11/13/2010
Carefully they may catch on to the drone thing ... If they found out about making enemies uncomfortable they will surely catch on to drone attacks in a sovereign country. Loose lips baby loose lips.
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Jodie Evans
12:27 AM on 11/13/2010
Sign the petition: Demand an Investigation of Former Pres. George W. Bush for Torture - http://bit.ly/9XFLEt
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SIMPLICIMUSS
Kampf gegen Dummheit !
10:08 AM on 11/13/2010
When are we going after Clinton for the death of 10,000 in Sudan and elsewhere in Sub-Saharan Africa ??
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SIMPLICIMUSS
Kampf gegen Dummheit !
10:17 AM on 11/13/2010
Nadler of NY is involved ???? Understand there is a warrant out for him in CA.. Setting a bad example to young people for eating Happy Meals ,toys and all !!