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House Passes Ban On 'Crush' Videos

JIM ABRAMS   11/15/10 04:55 PM ET   AP

House Animal Crush Video Ban

WASHINGTON — The House on Monday voted to ban so-called crush videos that depict the abuse and killing of animals.

The measure would revive, with some modifications, a 1999 law that was struck down by the Supreme Court last April on the grounds it was too broadly written and violated First Amendment free speech protections.

Congress has been trying since then to come up with a more narrowly crafted law, and the measure the House passed still differs slightly from a version approved by the Senate in September. It now goes back to the Senate.

"We need a law that stays on the books," House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, D-Mich., said in explaining the decision to tinker with the Senate language.

The bill was the first to be taken up in the lame-duck session of Congress that opened Monday.

The legislation, which the House originally passed in July, would make it a crime to sell or distribute videos that violate bans on animal cruelty by showing animals being burned, drowned, suffocated or impaled.

Such videos appeal to a sexual fetish by showing women, often barefoot or wearing high heels, stomping small animals to death.

Every state bans animal cruelty, but it has been difficult to apply those laws to crush videos because they often do not show faces, dates or locations. The legislation makes interstate sale of such videos a crime subject to fines and imprisonment.

Conyers said the House took out a Senate provision that made punishments for attempting or conspiring to make the videos equal to punishments for a completed product. He said that could cause constitutional issues.

Betsy Dribben, vice president for government relations at the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, expressed frustration at the delay. "We're concerned about the animals being killed and we're also concerned about the social ramifications," she said, citing opinions that cruelty to animals can be a catalyst to violence against humans.

Rep. Elton Gallegly, R-Calif., a sponsor of the original bill in 1999, said in a previous statement that famed killers such as Ted Bundy and Ted Kaczynski tortured or killed animals before killing people.

The legislation makes exceptions for films depicting hunting, trapping and fishing.

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The bill is H.R. 5566

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Congress: http://thomas.loc.gov

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JStading 10:16 PM on 11/15/2010
Cue round two of the unconstitutional law.  The only difference here is that the taxpayers will be on the hook for another few hundred thousand bucks to defend an indefensible law.

Wanna pass something that stops crush videos? It's actually quite easy to draft a statute that doesn't infringe on the first amendment. First, turn to 18 USC 2257, the pornography reporting and record keeping  Read More...
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mosh
09:09 AM on 11/18/2010
this video speaks louder than anything i could write:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SqBdS0XkV4
07:08 AM on 11/18/2010
Can we throw PETA in jail for filming animal torture? Please!
10:30 PM on 11/17/2010
Since banning the crush videos will not cure the people who have this fetish, I'm not sure this is the wise thing to do. People will start making their own crush videos in private and that means even more animals will be crushed after the banning. I think this ban will render crush fetishists who get satisfied by watching videos only into experiencing it by themselves.
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Harvee Wallbanger
Republicans... I got no use for you.
07:02 PM on 11/16/2010
So how is this going to impact hunting and fishing shows for Pete's sake?
10:07 AM on 11/17/2010
Fa' Pete's sake, Harvee, didn't you read the article? "The legislation makes exceptions for films depicting hunting, trapping and fishing."
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Harvee Wallbanger
Republicans... I got no use for you.
12:05 PM on 11/17/2010
Uh, nope. LOL
05:51 PM on 11/16/2010
To all those posters who wish the House would spend its time on other issues: it takes some agreement to pass legislation. With the party of NO refusing to cooperate on any laws that might help the poor and middle class, it's a little refreshing to know that they couldn't come up with any legitimate reasons to block the passage of this law. These films, like snuff films, appeal to the lowest forms of human life and the country is better off by the passage of this law.

So give 'em some credit; they may not have passed a law that will put food in your fridge, but they passed a law that may just prevent your neighbor from progressing from torturing and killing your animals to torturing and killing your family. This law IS important to all of us.
07:03 AM on 11/18/2010
These people were BORN that way.
05:48 PM on 11/16/2010
The best thing anyone can do to be able to sleep better at night, is to get involved in trying to get meaningful legislation passed. Something that wont come up against free speech issues.

Sign up for bulletins from The Humane Society of the United States, they'll send you bulletins about all pending animal cruelty legislation, along with petitions to sign that go to your Senators and Representatives. Making your voice heard does make a difference.

http://www.humanesociety.org/
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Marc Felion
Podcaster, Feast of Fun
02:12 PM on 11/16/2010
Hope congress doesn't ban our Tostones video! We crush plantains in the video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TA05Vl3FoV0
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JanPoore
03:54 PM on 11/16/2010
I appreciate your attempt at humor, but this isn't a humorous subject. If you've ever seen one of these videos and what's done to tiny innocent puppies and kittens, you wouldn't be making jokes.
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Walter H
Thou shalt not coerce. One and done.
01:46 PM on 11/16/2010
Rule # 34 of the internet: If it exists, there is porn of it. No exceptions.

So I guess we have to ban the internet.
07:05 AM on 11/18/2010
Ain't never seen a donkey show and people SWEAR they've seen one in real life.
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01:26 PM on 11/16/2010
Geez!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was like why would they ban videos of Orange Crush... I am so disgusted right now. I wish I didn't know about this...
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PlutocratsSuck
Death Stars are people too, my friends
01:24 PM on 11/16/2010
Why would anyone want to watch that kind of thing?
01:29 PM on 11/16/2010
'cause there are lots of sick sick people out there.
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JanPoore
03:56 PM on 11/16/2010
Because they are the same sick monsters who like to watch or participate in kiddie porn and beastiality. They are disturbed and unable to enjoy normality.
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01:18 PM on 11/16/2010
I support any legislation that protects animals, but how are these videos any different than hunting videos that show the senseless killing of an animal for sport?
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blindjester
English and ESL teacher
08:04 AM on 11/17/2010
A good hunter (I'm no hunter, but I do eat meat) won't attempt the shot unless they get a good one.

Different outcomes, and very different intentions, from torturers for pleasure.
10:24 AM on 11/17/2010
Psychology doesn't list hunting as an sexual fetish and crush videos are just that, with no redeeming factors whatsoever. Crushing is slow torture.
01:15 PM on 11/16/2010
can we still step on a spider

GET TO THE REAL ISSUES! YOU'VE GOT BIGGER ISSUES TO TACKLE!
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JanPoore
03:59 PM on 11/16/2010
Seriously? You're comparing stepping on a spider to a woman impaling and crushing a live tiny kitten or puppy with a stiletto heel for some monster's sexual gratification? Seriously? Have you ever seen one of these films?
 
You're as sick and inhuman as them if that's how you think.
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mosh
09:37 AM on 11/18/2010
just a visual to back you up:

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=1SqBdS0Xk­V4
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Stephen a Fazekas
01:01 PM on 11/16/2010
millions out of jobs, millions out of thier homes,a rapidly degrading quality of life and these losers can find the time to ban more porn
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Lexi Suarez
01:16 PM on 11/16/2010
You're a fan then? Ugh.
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Walter H
Thou shalt not coerce. One and done.
01:44 PM on 11/16/2010
That doesn't follow.
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01:46 PM on 11/16/2010
not porn, mental and social pathology.
01:00 PM on 11/16/2010
All the disgusting freaks who continue to post and prove how little issue they have with the torment and torture of other living creatures are absolutely disgusting.
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Marioam
12:54 PM on 11/16/2010
Crush videos have been around for years but as an underground fetish perverson. It is a vile horrific perverson that is a big money makeing business creating, producing and selling these videos. When the stupid Supreme Court overturned the 1999 law this past April, the crush video business skyrocket and many trolls showed up website such as My Space and FacBook opening pages showing these horrible and cruel videos. Animal abuse and torture in this country and around the world is increasing, please beaware of it.
JStading
Trust me, I'm an attorney...
03:04 PM on 11/16/2010
It's a big money business?  In US v. Stevens, the Government estimated that the entire crush video "industry" netted $1m/year.  It's nothing.
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JanPoore
04:01 PM on 11/16/2010
Even $1 million is too much. One kitten or puppy impaled and crushed by a stilletto heel is one too many.
06:08 PM on 11/16/2010
Maybe it's "nothing" money-wise, but that doesn't make it less of an issue that needs to be addressed by federal law.