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Health Care Law Gives 'Notable Improvement' To Debt Outlook If Implemented: GAO Report

First Posted: 11/15/10 07:20 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:10 PM ET

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A new non-partisan report finds that the cumulative effects of President Obama's health care reform package would be beneficial for the government's efforts at debt reduction if the law is implemented fully.

The U.S. Government Accountability Office put out a report on Monday afternoon that provides some welcome news for defenders of the Affordable Care Act and, perhaps, a bit of pause for those eager to overturn or de-fund the legislation. The debt is an increasingly dire crisis, the investigative arm of Congress found. But one thing alleviating the problem, though by no means eliminating it, is the health care reform package passed this past spring.

The federal government faces long-term fiscal pressures that predate the economic downturn and are driven on the spending side largely by rising health care costs and an aging population. GAO's simulations show continually increasing levels of debt that are unsustainable over the long-term. Under the Alternative simulation, debt held by the public as a share of GDP would exceed the historical high reached in the aftermath of World War II by 2020. Both of these simulations incorporate effects of health care legislation enacted in March 2010, which includes a number of provisions to control the growth of federal health care spending. There is a notable improvement in the long-term outlook under the Baseline Extended simulation, which assumes full implementation and effectiveness of cost control provisions.

(Emphasis is ours)

The report goes on to air skepticism from Social Security Trustees, the Congressional Budget Office and the CMS (Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services) Actuary that those cost control provisions will be put in place or, for that matter, that they will be "sustainable" over time. But that is a problem that reform advocates would argue is worth having. Better to tinker with the cost control mechanisms, after all, then to have to restructure an entire bill because it failed to control costs in the first place.

It's also worth noting that the GAO was fairly judicious with how they calculated its projections. It was assumed, for instance, that Congress would pass some form of a "doc-fix" in which Medicare physician payment rates were adjusted to "grow with inflation." The GAO also took into account the federal spending for the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) and subsidies for the newly created health insurance exchanges.

Even with these costs assumed, the overall grade for health care reform is a positive one, even if the country's fiscal future is deemed dour.

"These long-term simulations show that absent additional policy actions the federal government faces unsustainable growth in debt," the GAO reports. "Health care legislation enacted earlier this year has the potential to slow the growth of federal health care spending. However, even under the more optimistic Baseline Extended scenario, which assumes the full implementation and effectiveness of cost control provisions, debt grows continuously over the long term indicating that more needs to be done."

HERE IS THE GAO'S REPORT:


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A new non-partisan report finds that the cumulative effects of President Obama's health care reform package would be beneficial for the government's efforts at debt reduction if the law is implemented...
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09:41 PM on 12/29/2010
And they underestimated the cost of Medicare and Medicaid by billions. Entitlements always cost more than anticipated and criminals always find ways to defraud the system as has happened with Medicare fraud. The problems in our health care system go much deeper than health insurance to a system bogged down by medical companies who profit from FDA regulations and lawyers who profit from malpractice claims leading to often unnecessary diagnostic imaging and testing so doctors can cover their proverbial backsides to satisfy their malpractice insurers. Who do you think pays for the doctors costs? We all do.

Pushing everyone onto Medicare or Medicaid or a single payer system sounds great until you consider that many doctors are already cutting off the elderly because their practices can't survive on the low reimbursements government health insurance already provides. I experienced this difficulty myself when trying to find a surgeon who would take military tricare. No doctor in my state would take it so I had to agree to pay the difference between the low reimbursement and the actual charges. It cost several thousand dollars I didn't have.
08:42 PM on 11/23/2010
Single payer.
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veritas aequitas
06:21 PM on 11/17/2010
111 Waivers for ObamaCare: 1,175,411 people exempted so far is proof that Obamacare is a failure.
06:38 PM on 11/17/2010
Sigh. And you keep repeating what someone told you. Do you even know what "Obamacare" is and the nature of those waivers? Do you?
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veritas aequitas
07:41 PM on 11/17/2010
Yes, yes I do.

And the waivers are given to companies that have political power, not based on need.

More power over companies means more political corruption.
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Dardedar
Not here to play patty cake...
09:56 PM on 11/17/2010
Waivers are great. Proof that Obama's health care initiative is flexible.
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veritas aequitas
11:17 PM on 11/17/2010
Waivers are given based on political influence, not need. This is just another example of political corruption fully supported by the left.
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SeattlePepe
Lean right but sometimes look left
05:13 PM on 12/13/2010
So Dar, what were the criteria for the wavers? Many have been looking, no real answers out there...proof LOL
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Nel Pineda
09:49 AM on 11/17/2010
The GOP will never believe this even the debt comes down to zero due to it. It's the same approach the way they see evolution.
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TeaLady005
09:48 AM on 11/17/2010
So far 111 companies have been granted waivers from having to participate in Obamacare, and more are lining up each day! If Obamacare is such a good deal, why are so many companies scrambling to opt out? We must defund Obamacare and then repeal this unconstitutional mess of a bill.
03:29 PM on 11/17/2010
Sounds like you are getting all your news from extremely partisan sources. Do you have any idea how many companies there are in this country? The fact that 111 entities may have gotten waivers because they have unique or complex situations means absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things. At least educate yourself on some of the myths that you have evidently swallowed hook, line and sinker. http://mediamatters.org/research/200908200002
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SeattlePepe
Lean right but sometimes look left
05:14 PM on 12/13/2010
What are those "unique or complex situations"...please expand.
05:31 PM on 11/17/2010
WHy are companies against it? Why were companies against SUPERFUND legislation that required them to clean up the toxic mess they wanted to leave behind?

$$$

Companies don't care about people. They care about money. Period.
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veritas aequitas
06:23 PM on 11/17/2010
“The most important single central fact about a free market is that no exchange takes place unless both parties benefit.”
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Robert David Steele
08:29 AM on 11/17/2010
I've taken a careful look at this, and am working with Jim Turner (Citizens for Health Action Group), Harrison Owen (Open Space Technology) and a growing number of others who are hosting monthly Open Space sessions leading up to an October 2012 Sense-Making Summit on Public Health. Here's what I see:

1) Health is the new Grand Theft Pentagon. The same vendors that have sucked blood from the public through defense contracts are now gearing up to suck blood through health contracts instead.

2) Unnoticed by the public, but to be discussed at the National Press Club in a special session in January 2011, are laws that have outsourced health "profit recovery" to a handful of private sector parties--the usual suspects led by the law firm that got the law passed--which is tantamount to outsourcing the Departments of Justice and Health and Human Services.

On 30 November 2010 Jim and Harrison and I are meeting for lunch at the Irish Inn at Glenn Echo, details at Phi Beta Iota and link below. It is an open (Dutch) lunch to which we hope to attract some health heavy hitters with integrity.

The health care bill is legalized fraud on a number of fronts, I am rapidly growing to believe that states should nullify all federal laws pending a full transparent public review.

http://www.phibetaiota.net/2010/11/event-30-nov-irish-inn-glenn-echo-open-space-lunch-on-health/

http://www.phibetaiota.net/summit-11/
06:48 AM on 11/17/2010
If you are STILL against health care reform you are;

- easily duped by disinformation and fearmongering
-being paid by some lobbyist and owe your soul to them as long as you are voted back in
-are a member of the republican party and vote according to what Ru.sh Limbaugh or Karl R.ove tells you to
-are white and cannot be for ANYTHING that a black man is (even if he is right)
-are rich and just don't care
-HAVE insurance paid for you and just don't care
-HAVE never been sick and just don't care or think about it
-don't believe the mound of truth in statistics that the system is broken
-don't care that YOU pay 1000 dollars for everybody that uses emergency rooms without insurance
-don't care if people suffer with the worry of paying health bills or that they lose everything they have along with their families( inclusive of innocent children )
-don't care that 62% of personal bankruptcies are related to medical bills
.don't care that single payer is the best and most efficient system implemented in most other western
democracies
-don't care that people may d1e as a result from one or all of the above..

HOW is that American ? or even human ?
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Andy Manor
10:26 PM on 11/17/2010
Fanned and Faved. This is right on.
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Chris1962
NYC
02:41 AM on 11/17/2010
>>>A new non-partisan report finds that the cumulative effects of President Obama's health care reform package would be beneficial for the government's efforts at debt reduction if the law is implemented fully.>>>

Too bad the man of change guaranteed its demise by obeying the insurance lobbyist's demand that he institute her Castro-style, money-making "mandate": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PwqSCJmbxk ...

Big, big, big, big, big mistake.
02:28 PM on 11/18/2010
How many times are you going to post this nonsense?
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PCMartin
Bullish on cat food and refrigerator boxes
02:08 AM on 11/17/2010
I don't want to rain on anyone's parade, but I'm an HR 676 ("Expanded and Improved Medicare For All") supporter, and I think PPACA is just about the worst possible solution that can still be technically qualified as reform. It basically institutionalizes and subsidizes the wasteful, parasitic, fragmented non-system we already have.

Every other First World country has a single bargaining agent to negotiate uniform medical prices -- drugs, tests, operations, ambulance rides, MRIs, doctor visits, etc. -- in advance, on behalf of patients. They all have radically more efficient, harmonized or centralized administration. None of them uses for-profit insurance for essential health care (with a few exceptions for the wealthy). We have done none of this and will continue to have by far the most expensive, least efficient, least protective, least universal health insurance system in the developed world.

Yes, if the GAO's predictions pan out, the budget deficit may be eased somewhat. But that's because taxes and patient out-of-pockets ("co-insurance") will go up. The percentage of GDP we devote to health care -- already by far the highest in the world, even though we have between 50 and 59 million uninsured and see doctors far less often than our peers -- will go *up* even more than if we did nothing. That's why stock in insurance and pharmaceutical companies went up. Ka-ching!

I'm happy for the modest improvements PPACA brings, but what a wasted opportunity! Medicare For All would have been simpler, cheaper, and better.
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Dardedar
Not here to play patty cake...
10:15 PM on 11/17/2010
I've read hundreds of posts in this forum and this is probably the smartest one yet.

Your second paragraph absolutely nails it.
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NoMoTankYou
01:06 AM on 11/17/2010
It will never happen. Read the article yourself:

"There is a notable improvement in the long-term outlook under the Baseline Extended simulation, which assumes full implementation and effectiveness of cost control provisions, although some--including the Trustees, CBO and the CMS Actuary--have raised questions about the sustainability of certain of these cost controls."

MEDICARE'S OWN ACTUARY doubt the cost savigns (from cutting payments to doctors) will ever happen.

Health care reform deficit savings = complete and utter shameless LIE.

http://www.libradex.com/viewArticle.aspx?id=60
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Dardedar
Not here to play patty cake...
10:19 PM on 11/17/2010
Wrong. What you didn't quote from the article:

"It's also worth noting that the GAO was fairly judicious with how they calculated its projections. It was assumed, for instance, that Congress would pass some form of a "doc-fix" in which Medicare physician payment rates were adjusted to "grow with inflation."
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NoMoTankYou
10:40 PM on 11/17/2010
Well that "doc fix" just means that they won't pay for HCR with cuts to Medicare doctors.

That means the cost will just be added to the deficit.

You're making my point.
12:52 AM on 11/17/2010
Duh!
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Curious Black
voices in your head tell u what u already believe
12:48 AM on 11/17/2010
Nobody is saying that there shouldnt be Reform,its a debate of the Proper Reform so as not to tinker to much with the things that also make our System the Envy of the World for innovation and technology advances that lead the World..Con­servatives have very well intentioned concerns about what they feel could betaking us back instead of forward.
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It would have been a better law if a certain group of people had decided to participate in really making it better. that would also have KILLED the power of a Bent nelson, joey LIEbermann or Blanched Lincoln. but no, a return to power is much more important than doing the right thing.
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Curious Black
voices in your head tell u what u already believe
12:17 AM on 11/17/2010
people, you want single payer?
STOP SITTING ON THE SIDELINES!
we need to be as out there as the tea lickers. just as loud, just as angry and just as photogenic. our legislators are actually working (well not mine, I'm is red Florida), so we the people need to act. now. before the movie Brazil becomes our reality.the tea lapping crowd showed that an angry loud vocal minority can get change in this country. Lets show an angry, loud liberal majority can do better!
05:34 PM on 11/17/2010
YEAH!!! (I'm with ya.)

GRRRRBLEDYSHOOWWWRRRRRAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

Let's get loud. Let's get heard!
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
12:08 AM on 11/17/2010
i know a surgeon that got cut 20% reduction in fees retro to aug 2009.....he owes money back to the government. he will next get another 20% reduction....he owns real estate that he is trying to pay off now and quit practicing medicine. we have surgery centers here that the new bill is trying to regulate out of existence. so all surgeries can take place in expensive hospitals. i dont know how this will help lower cost....of course nothing in this bill will lower cost other than but a big burden on the middle class as another tax. they will need to keep the bush tax cuts so we can afford the extra costs that will be upon us soon.
12:32 AM on 11/17/2010
Uh huh...
05:37 PM on 11/17/2010
Well, the rich have a big pile of cash that they aren't using.

WHY ARE THE RICH HOARDING ALL OF THEIR MONEY AND KEEPING DOCTORS FROM "PRACTICING THEIR LOVE"!? THE RICH COULD PAY TAXES FOR ONCE SO YOUR FRIEND WOULDN'T HAVE TO QUIT MEDICINE!



[I'm fake yelling a lot on this thread. Hmm.]
oilfield
large employer per obamacare
01:11 PM on 11/18/2010
i dont think in this political environment it is hard to figure out why folks would hoard money.
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Curious Black
voices in your head tell u what u already believe
11:49 PM on 11/16/2010
so if I follow the reasoning correctly: it will not pass, then it will not work, then now that it passed and looks like it will work, lets repeal it!
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Chris1962
NYC
02:53 AM on 11/17/2010
Given that dictatorial mandate that the insurance lobbyist insisted the man of change initiate, guaranteeing windfall profits for her industry, you can count on the Supreme Court repealing it, provided the Republican president in 2013 doesn't get his/her hands on it first. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PwqSCJmbxk ... Forcing the American people to make a purchase from the private sector, with their own money and against the will of the majority of them, lest they wish to suffer punishment at the hand of Big Bro, ain't exactly the American way. Or at least not after the the framers freed themselves and future generations of oppression like that by waging war against King George.
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Dardedar
Not here to play patty cake...
10:24 PM on 11/17/2010
Here is how sensible people do it in countries where this is dealt with in an adult manner:

"Everyone in Japan is required to sign up with a health insurance plan. This is a "personal mandate,".... Every nation that relies on health insurance has that requirement (except the USA), and in Japan the mandate is not controversial at all. "It's considered an element of personal responsibility, that you insure yourself against health care costs," Dr. Ikegami told me. "And who can be against personal responsibility?"

--The Healing of America, A global Quest for Better, Cheaper, and Fairer Health Care., pg. 87