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The Federalist Society: Where Are They Now?


First Posted: 11/18/10 08:43 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- The Federalist Society is one of the most powerful and unique organizations in the conservative orbit, describing itself as "a group of conservatives and libertarians interested in the current state of the legal order." But that simple description doesn't do justice to the influential network the group has built up, in addition to fundamentally changing the way that conservative ideas on the law are discussed and received in mainstream legal circles.

The Federalist Society gained widespread attention in 2007 for the power of its members within the Bush administration Justice Department. Since then, there has been less attention on the group, but according to legal experts, the group is quietly continuing to thrive in an environment where lawmakers and activists are increasingly touting constitutional law as the talk of the day.

A NEW ENVIRONMENT

The Federalist Society kicks off its annual conference in Washington, D.C. on Thursday, featuring high-profile officials like Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia (who, as a professor, was one of the earliest supporters of the society and helped connect and fundraise for chapters) and Sen.-elect Mike Lee (R-Utah), in addition to legal luminaries like Richard Epstein and John Yoo.

Throughout its history, the group, founded in 1982 at Yale Law School, has prided itself on not explicitly taking policy positions on issues but rather creating the conditions in which conservative legal ideas can be debated and thrive. This year, the conference takes place in an environment that is perhaps more amenable to these ideas than at any time in recent years.

During the midterm elections, Republicans -- particularly those identifying with the Tea Party movement -- chastised Democrats for ignoring the Constitution, arguing that health care reform was unconstitutional under the 10th Amendment and debating whether part -- or all -- of the 14th, 16th and 17th Amendments should be dropped. Republicans have also promised to make sure every piece of legislation cites specific constitutional authority.

Indeed, this week's conference has sessions on hot-button issues like the 10th Amendment, the constitutionality of health care reform and Arizona's immigration law.

Steven Teles, an associate professor of political science at Johns Hopkins University and author of The Rise of the Conservative Legal Movement, said conservatives have always had a more "constitutional vision of public policy," while liberals have had a "policy, analytic way of looking at the world." During the '80s, '90s and the second Bush administration, however, conservatives became more like policy analysts.

"What is interesting about the Tea Party and the recovery of constitutional discourse is that it's in some ways a repudiation of that move that conservatives had made," added Teles. 

Eugene Meyer has served as the Federalist Society's executive director and CEO for more than 25 years. "It does seem to me as though there was a type of interest it was generating is not likely to go away very quickly," he said, noting the enthusiasm some of the incoming members of Congress have in this issue. Specifically, he pointed to Lee, Utah's new senator, who was president of his law school's Federalist Society chapter.

"More so than perhaps in the past, I think members of Congress will try to have one eye on the Constitution as they go about legislating," he said.

POST-BUSH OPERATIONS

Many people who have heard of the Federalist Society probably first became familiar with the group during the Bush administration, when officials in the Justice Department came under fire for giving special consideration to candidates identified with the conservative legal group -- part of the investigations into whether appointees politicized what were supposed to be apolitical programs within the federal government.

Beyond the implications with the Bush administration, the controversy highlighted the Federalist Society's importance in the conservative legal community and the role it plays in identifying future superstars. The organization has a budget of about $10 million and approximately 40,000 people involved, according to Meyer. Its most important work is done at the chapter level, on the campuses of colleges and universities, outside of the glare of the national media.

"The most important thing it does for students is it allows them to bring speakers onto campus, who break the monolithic views they get from their professors, and it allows them to network with each other, so they can somewhat support each other," said Randy Barnett, a Georgetown University law professor who is a member of the Federalist Society and speaker at the annual conference. "It's kind of a support network for people who are sort of dissidents within their own academic environment -- and I was one, before there was a Federalist Society, so I know how lonely it can be to be alone -- and you're not actually alone because there are people who might actually agree with you and respect what you're saying, but you don't know who they are because they're keeping their mouth shut."

This infrastructure still exists, even without Republican administrations, as Ian Millhiser, a legal policy analyst at the progressive Center for American Progress, noted. The movement simply continues to build up new talent in the off-years.

"There were a lot of very young, very smart lawyers -- you know, Rachel Brand and Viet Dinh and people like that -- who were objectively quite qualified for the jobs in the Department of Justice," said Millhiser. "They got very senior jobs at a very young age, and they got that because they had this movement backing them up. And that movement doesn't go away just because there aren't Justice Department jobs or White House counsel jobs or judgeships to be passed out."

Millhiser explained that moving up in the legal world is a process of resume building -- prestigious clerkships, top-tier law firms and so forth. What the Federalist Society does, through its chapters and networking, is help bright young conservatives check off these boxes.

"What the Federalist Society does really well, is it identifies that really really right-wing kid at Harvard Law School who is legitimately talented and who will do horrible things to the law but will do it very competently because they're a very talented lawyer," added Millhiser. "And they identify those people, and from the beginning of their career, give them opportunities, help them find those clerkships, help them network."

So did all the press during the Bush years -- much of which was negative but undoubtedly had the effect of magnifying the mystique of the group -- have any ramifications? Meyer replied that it certainly made more people aware of the organization and attracted more people who were genuinely interested in being involved in the discussions they were having.

"Probably 75 to 80 percent of what we do is not covered in the national press articles," said Meyer. "I think the coverage was probably a net positive, but not a huge deal one way or the other."

THE PROGRESSIVES

Part of the Federalist Society's mission in its earlier years was combating the American Bar Association, which it perceived to be ideologically biased toward liberals. But in a sign of the Federalist Society's success in shifting legal discourse, in 2001, the liberal American Constitution Society (ACS) formed to combat the growing "activist conservative legal movement."

"I have to give credit to the Federalist Society for having been very successful in helping to pack our courts with right-wing zealots and changing constitutional interpretation to restrict the rights that most Americans consider so vital," said Caroline Fredrickson, who took over as ACS's executive director last year, "and our mission is obviously to push back on that and work toward a more just society."

Millhiser argued that much of the Federalist Society's success has been in the willingness of high-powered government officials or judges -- who may have started out in a chapter of the group during law school -- to embrace the group and said progressives need to create a similar network.

"This does go to the lopsided way the Federalist Society works hand-in-hand with the electeds, and the electeds on the Democratic side just haven't done that with movement progressives," said Millhiser. "When Bush was in office, he nominated a very successful round of hardcore movement conservatives, some of whom received resistance...but many of them didn't receive any resistance at all. ... They got Bush behind them, they got the Republican senators behind them, and the Democratic senators pretty much rolled over, because they didn't view this as an important enough issue."

Now, however, added Millhiser, Obama has nominated Goodwin Liu -- who is "one of the most well-regarded legal academics in the country" and clerked for a Supreme Court justice -- but he's being blocked.

"When Goodwin Liu gets nominated, all of the elected conservatives line up to block him in a way that the progressive movement's allies in Congress just did not line up to block the Federalist Society stalwarts," he said. "There's always that relationship there. When there's a conservative president, the Federalist Society can give a list of names to that conservative president that they want to see nominated. And when there's a progressive president, then the Federalist Society can work with their allies in the Senate to make sure that the movement progressives -- or unfortunately, in this administration, really any judges -- don't get confirmed. Then they hold their slots open. If that seat on the 9th circuit or any other seat isn't filled before Obama leaves office, and we're looking a conservative president in six or 10 or however many years, it's probably going to go to someone the Federalist Society wants to get it."

Fredrickson said that the group has seen its membership grow since President Obama's election but argued the movement will need time to catch up with the decades of work by the Federalist Society.

"Their wisdom was in their recognition that having an impact takes long-term planning," she said. "They began their efforts around the courts so long ago, and they're really bearing fruit now. I think the lesson for us is not that progressives don't care or can't do anything about it, but in fact, it's a long-term process and we need to be patient and stay engaged, just like the right was, to make sure these constitutional values we embrace are fully shared by our judiciary."

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hawhite2000
...for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee
05:34 PM on 11/19/2010
It is a prime example as to why all politics is local. Our schools have deteriorated; children are not being taught properly. Since the Reagan administration, the school systems of America have become more and more politicized, and people with actual education backgrounds aren't listened to in setting policy. How else can we explain so many in the electorate who don't really care to know information, or who don't know how our government works? If they did care and understand the benefits of knowledge they would be outraged by this and would not continue to vote for people who will never have their interests at heart.

When you have a supreme court justice who doesn't want to go to the state of the union address or sees nothing wrong it going to a conservative function then we have vast problems.
skmbho
A blue bird in a red state
01:49 PM on 11/19/2010
It all reads like a bad political crime drama. Maybe Rubicon is based in fact??
01:15 PM on 11/19/2010
Twisted right-wing logic: It's okay to be an "activist" judge or justice - but ONLY if you're conservative.
12:15 PM on 11/19/2010
When are these conservatives going to stop using handsome talking heads?
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zendem1
Sometimes I like to touch other people's food
11:17 AM on 11/19/2010
Scalia worked for Nixon. That's all you need to know.
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Rendy Bee Mulyono
Someone with constant stream of
10:55 AM on 11/19/2010
fighting for constitution whatever is one thing... letting their mission hijacked by corporate a holes are another
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missyme
Just me
10:30 AM on 11/19/2010
The voter is clueless. We vote these people in. We pay their salaries, health insurance, retirement. They turn around and screw America. Nothing is about the "people". Everything is about them and how to push their own selfish agenda. The electorate, who is uneducated, is getting the medicine that they deserve. That is why the GOP wants to defund education, do away with Social Security and health care. They want to put all that in the hands of their cronies without regulations so the rich "Society" can get richer and America will be ruled by Demagogues.
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kimbutgar
11:36 AM on 11/19/2010
F&F ed. Unfortunately we and our children will be suffering from these corrupt politicians actions for the rest of our lives.
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missyme
Just me
01:47 PM on 11/19/2010
It is not too late yet. However, when you have people like the Koch brothers and all the unknown contributors out there buying the elections, or when you have our Supreme Court Justices being part of a "Society" advocating for one minor group of people, it goes back to the education of the electorate. Some of the tea partiers may have some good intentions but when they let themselves be conned by the commercials they see on TV, the lies that they listen to on the radio or by the made-up data by some TV news commentators without checking the facts, we are in trouble.
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R U Sirius
Retired educator, trainer; writer/editor
10:05 AM on 11/19/2010
Beware, America. Be very, very afraid. These people are screwing with YOUR liberties.
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zendem1
Sometimes I like to touch other people's food
11:14 AM on 11/19/2010
Beware, but never,NEVER be afraid of these animals That's exactly what they want.
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R U Sirius
Retired educator, trainer; writer/editor
12:50 PM on 11/19/2010
Ah, but they have, and will use, all the resources their riches can buy to have you raped repeatedly, without your ever realizing it... Fighting them is already like jousting with your shadow.
Clevelandinwi
Progressive is good; regressive, not so much.
08:38 AM on 11/19/2010
scalia, the 'justice' that gwbush admires the most -- that says it all.
Clevelandinwi
Progressive is good; regressive, not so much.
08:33 AM on 11/19/2010
jonnieyooooooo, the creator ot the ' IT'S OK TO TORTURE' ruling from the bush-rove-gonzales justice department..- one sick puppy.
Clevelandinwi
Progressive is good; regressive, not so much.
08:31 AM on 11/19/2010
Is scalia related to rogerails at noise? There is a remarkable facial resemblance and, of course, there is the fact that they are both FAT, RACIST BIGOTS.
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John Avena
06:19 AM on 11/19/2010
It amazes me... We the tax payer pay these Congressmen and Senators salaries.. Which means we pay for there benefits too.. This includes paying for there health care for there families. These are the same Congressmen and Senators who are wanting to deny us health care coverage at the same time we the tax payer are paying for there's... They need to put up or shut up... If they want to have a single payer system then the US Tax payer should not have to fund health care for Congressmen and Senators families.. If they are dictating that we the Tax Payer should pay for our own heath care then they should too.. That goes for Congressmen and Senators Pensions.. They want to do away with Social Security and make all US citizens save for there own retirement and not use Federal dollars (Social Security) to help with retirement... Well... Then Congressmen and Senators should not get Tax Payer Money For There Pensions.. If they are standing on there soap box preaching no Social Security then they should not get any money from the Tax Payer for there pensions either.. Why should we fund there retirement... These guys get any where from $50,000 to $150,000 dollar a year in pension money from us the US Tax Payer. Amazing... These people getting paid a pension from us but want to deny the US Tax Payer ours...
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MichaelMcKLA
I'm moving to Pandora.
04:54 AM on 11/19/2010
Woohoo! Fashism is back!
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Tom Sutpen
A for-real Socialist
07:08 AM on 11/19/2010
You've never heard of the Federalist Society before?

You weren't paying attention about 10-12 years ago, when stories almost identical to this about this 'shadowy network' of right wing lawyers were being published (only featuring somewhat different casts of characters)?

The Federalist Society is about as mysterious as Bohemian Grove these days.
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ItsBarranti
02:36 AM on 11/19/2010
"I was one, before there was a Federalist Society, so I know how lonely it can be to be alone -- and you're not actually alone because there are people who might actually agree with you and respect what you're saying, but you don't know who they are because they're keeping their mouth shut.""

This is it. This is everything that's wrong with Conservatives. While the rest of us were going to College, we had no problem getting into debates with people of different backgrounds, and branching out and meeting people with different view points and consequently expanding our own understanding of the world.

These people, on the other hand, were sad and lonely and alone, they didn't expand their horizons, they didn't meet new and different people, they didn't get into debate and have to defend their positions using logic, and they didn't pay attention to their professors except to get mad at them. In other words, they didn't learn anything when they were in school.
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Jim Pasterczyk
Banned!
02:01 AM on 11/19/2010
I've always thought the proper name for this group should be the Confederalist Society. They do seem to have a state's rights, antebellum point of view.