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Social Security Advocates Slam Obama's Cautious Response To Debt Commission Co-Chairs' Proposal

First Posted: 11/18/10 03:40 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

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WASHINGTON -- President Obama's cautious response to the fiscal commission co-chairs' proposal was "quite frankly, a disappointment," according to Terry O'Neill, president of the National Organization for Women. The draft report would slash Social Security benefits for millions of Americans, hurting poor people and minorities in particular.

"These proposals to cut social security really push hundreds of thousands of middle class women into poverty," said O'Neill on a conference call with reporters Thursday afternoon. "Women are far more likely than men to head into their retirement years without savings and why is that? Well, when you work a lifetime with unequal pay, you have a hard time socking away money for your own retirement."

Indeed, a new report issued by the Government Accountability Office found that raising the retirement age for Social Security would have a disproportionate impact on low-income workers and minorities.

Women today are paid 77 cents for every dollar earned by men, and for minority women, the pay is considerably worse.

The president earned the ire of Social Security advocates around the country when he told reporters last week that the commission's proposal deserved review rather than the dismissive response it received from leading Democrats like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.).

"President Obama did not come out clearly and forcefully in opposition to the co-chairs' proposal and quite frankly, that was a disappointment," said O'Neill.

It's not clear that Obama's caution is politically strategic.

A new poll unveiled Thursday by Lake Research Partners found eight out of ten voters remain strongly opposed to the recommendations put forth by co-chairs Alan Simpson and Erskine Bowles, suggesting that were the president and members of Congress from either party to follow those recommendations, they would suffer at the polls in 2012.

Of the 1,200 likely voters surveyed, 82 percent opposed cutting Social Security to reduce the deficit, with 83 percent of Democrats and 82 percent of Republicans opposed.

Similarly, when it came to raising the retirement age to 69, as suggested by the Simpson-Bowles proposal, every partisan group surveyed was opposed -- 76 percent of Democrats, 57 percent of Republicans, and 62 percent of Tea Partiers.

"The reason we've come together is to send a very clear message to the White House which is a message the American people are quite clear about," said Eric Kingson, co-chair of the Strengthen Social Security Campaign. "They don't want Social Security cut today or tomorrow."

In a statement Thursday, Rep. Raul Grijalva piled on.

"The Democratic-controlled Congress and White House are now pondering cuts to one of the most important, successful and popular programs in American history," said Grijalva. "Unfortunately, the architects of this scheme have still never been pushed to answer the fundamental question: Why? Social Security keeps millions of Americans out of poverty and living the decent lifestyle they earned through decades of contributing to the economy. The whole debate has been off topic from the beginning and seems motivated by an agenda that has nothing to do with the real needs of working and retired families. We cannot throw the future of the American retirement system under the bus to put more money in the country's wealthiest pocket or further slash taxes for the richest two percent. Proponents of cutting Social Security are right that this is about fiscal responsibility, and the fiscally responsible thing to do is strengthen rather than weaken the most fundamental economic support program this country has ever had."

California Democrat Rep. Barbara Lee offered similar sentiments.

"Safeguarding Social Security is more imperative now than ever," said Lee. "Social Security keeps 20 million Americans out of poverty - many of whom are people of color. As we move into the 112th Congress, I am committed to defending Social Security from all those who wish to dismantle it. We must work together to ensure that Social Security remains intact and solvent for generations to come."

AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka, meanwhile, argued political leaders should be less obsessed with the deficit and more worried about pulling the country's economy out of the ditch.

"Proposals to cut Social Security benefits and give the wealthiest Americans over $700 billion in wasteful tax breaks won't help the economy," he said in a statement Thursday. "Let's be clear. We have a jobs crisis, not a short-term deficit crisis."

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WASHINGTON -- President Obama's cautious response to the fiscal commission co-chairs' proposal was "quite frankly, a disappointment," according to Terry O'Neill, president of the National Organization...
WASHINGTON -- President Obama's cautious response to the fiscal commission co-chairs' proposal was "quite frankly, a disappointment," according to Terry O'Neill, president of the National Organization...
 
 
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ResearchtheFacts 04:50 PM on 11/18/2010
Obama never fails to disappointment when he leaves millions of Americans twisting in the wind as usual...The president earned the ire of Social Security advocates around the country when he told reporters last week that the commission's proposal deserved review rather than the dismissive response it received from leading Democrats like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.). 

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At least Pelosi understood what that loss of the House was about.  Obama is still clueless.  This coupled with the failure to extend unemployment is pushing more in the middle into homelessness and extreme poverty.  Just like Alvin Greene in SC I am beginning to think Obama was a republican plant.  Their screaming over his citizenship is just a ploy to mask the obvious.
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pattiepcomedy
Funny IT gal
01:06 PM on 11/26/2010
I think President Obama is staying quiet on purpose. Let both Republican and Democrat representatives work out the differences. Then they can't blame President Obama for interfering in the process by saying anything (which they would most certainly do). It is our Democrat representatives that we voted for that should be speaking out. Because President Obama is saying nothing shows not only does he want all ideas out (sane and insane), he wants us all to see the individuals who really has our interests at stake. If Obama hasn't learned anything by now, I believe he has learned to keep his counsel to himself until he is needed to yeah or ney when it counts. Do you think anything that Obama has to say before the deadline (like tax cuts for the rich) is going to help the voters (just grist for the media mill). If President Obama would get involve, I'm sure the rhetoric from Simpson/Bowles would be more supersized for media affect. I voted for him for a reason that is because I trust his judgement (and I don't care if you don't).
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jpvt
empty micro-bio means a nice person lives here
08:49 PM on 12/29/2010
Thank you pattiep. My thoughts to a tee. Fanned and Fav'd.
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mdmccormick
I am tired of this BS
11:44 PM on 11/20/2010
The Social Security System is not broken! It has tons of money associated with it and that is why the Rich are going after it. If they can get their hands on that money then they will have robbed everything that there was to rob. They are using their Senators and Congressman to try and accomplish this, as they have been for years. They have been stopped by a majority of the Democrats and this is sure not the time for them to stop fighting. I know it’s hard to do without a spine but please grow one!
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Edward Watters
If voting changed anything, they'd make it illegal
12:30 PM on 11/29/2010
Well said.
05:18 PM on 11/19/2010
i am a leftie and proud of it ! but what makes me boil is the left and the middle abandoning the president when he really needed them most in retaining a Governing majority to fulfill their wishes but then tell him to stand firm for their causes after his majority have been whipped and kicked out of office.How do you expect him to do that when you just watched him pushed to a corner by the Right while fighting your issues your values the same values you cherished , cheered and voted him for two years ago but now they don't look so great or appealing any more ! you can afford to cherry pick !! He can not ! if you did not vote ! lick your wounds and know what to do next time. Looks like people got a very short memory or a very selective one after what we saw in 2000 with Gore and now this ! VOTE OR KEEP YOUR PEACE _ CAUSE AND EFFECT .if you want to help the president Govern ! you got to vote.
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ResearchtheFacts
01:20 AM on 11/19/2010
In its draft plan to rescue Social Security and prevent what some see as inevitable in the absence of action — a sudden 22% reduction in benefits for all beneficiaries in 2037 — the deficit commission wants to tax 90% of covered earnings by 2050, make the benefit formula more progressive so that high-income recipients receive relatively less, index the retirement age to longevity gains, and dampen COLAs, among other measures.
01:44 PM on 11/19/2010
The Fiscal Commission's cure is worse than the problem. We will take care of the younger workers down the road. All the other problems we have and they focus on a problem 27 years down the road.

The Conservative politicians are always talking about "FREEDOM".

What greater FREEDOM than to be able to choose when to retire?

I know there has to be limits, but they should not be terrible limits the fiscal commission is coming up with.

People know when to retire. They should not allow people like Alan Simpson to dictate when they can retire.

My husband wanted to work until he was 70, but he got laid off before then, so he signed up for Social Security retirement benefits.

There are a lot of people who want to work until the day they die, but there are people who take the 25% benefit cut to retire at 62.

Alan Simpson, Erskine Bowles, Norquist and Boehner need their butts kicked all over Wall Street. Why is Alan and Erskine drawing a government pension and making big bucks as a lawyer?
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ThatsTheTheWayItIs
religion, ideology, partisanship are delusional
10:51 PM on 11/18/2010
NOW has zero political power, it can't even stop anti-abortion Republicans from being elected.
But it can criticize Dems for not being radical enough, and thereby elect more Republicans.
Fortunately NOW is inept so their damage to women is minimal.
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Joseph Palermo
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09:17 PM on 11/18/2010
Unfortunately, Obama's tepid response means he might be heading right in the direction I talk about in my blog, D-Day in the Class War, ouch!
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oldngrumpy
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11:22 PM on 11/18/2010
While I would be one of the last to defend President Obama in most of the actions he has taken to date, I can see a method to this latest madness. Should he reject the proposed cuts to Social Security without review it would be viewed as a partisan and idologically driven decision. By not outright rejecting the proposals, which aren't even yet official recommendations of the full committee, he can later say that he evaluated them without bias and decided against the cuts on their own merits.


I would like to think that anyone who calls himself a Democrat would fanatically defend Social Security, but (D) Rep. Conrad's complicity in this assault would seemingly prove me mistaken. Democrats have allowed "moderates" (Republican light) to infest the party out of some misguided sense of desparation for numbers. Had they stayed strong and resolute to their core values we would not have an ideological chasm dividing the Democratic party into factions that split votes by encouraging non-participation. Those core values are the same values that civilized people have considered "good" since time began and don't need anyone running "away from" them.
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Gus DiZerega
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08:42 PM on 11/18/2010
Obama is proving to be a weakling or a fraud, or both. I am inclined more and more to say "both."
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jpvt
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08:53 PM on 12/29/2010
"neither"
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speakingtruth2power
Not motivated by fear & loathing
08:12 PM on 11/18/2010
The very sad truth is that there are more adjustments ahead; more bank failures,

another mortgage fiasco and the biggest problem ahead for many may be all the

defaults on pensions that public and private entities will be forced to lay on US.
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speakingtruth2power
Not motivated by fear & loathing
08:07 PM on 11/18/2010
The upward shift of wealth is what has caused our problems so we can't afford to help the poor.
08:04 PM on 11/18/2010
I'm annoyed with this "wealthy" tax cut argument. What if someone with a net worth of 5 million makes $100,000 next year? Won't he still benefit from the Bush-era tax rates being kept for those under 250k? What if someone with a net worth of $20,000 makes 300k next year? Should his taxes go up?
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Stephanie Eaton Agosta
are you talkin' to me?
08:43 AM on 11/19/2010
yes
01:49 PM on 11/19/2010
There should be income averaging. One year I drew a lot of money, the next year I didn't pay taxes at all.

How do we know that he has a $20,000 net worth because he travels, drinks, wastes his money or takes dope?
07:54 PM on 11/18/2010
There is not now nor has there ever been a Social Security Problem.
To say there is implies that business people are stupid.
If you are a businessman and you have people working for you and they can quit without being replaced then you are stupid to have them in the first place. You are not in business to just hand out salaries.
If you are a businessman and you have a Mr. X working for you he must be valuable or you would not have him working for you, further if Mr. X is about to retire then you will seek to replace him.
You go through potential candidates that come to you as replacements and you do not find what you want, will you throw up your hands and say "Oh woe is me," No.
You will seek an individual from other sources. You will be willing to except an immigrant that meets your qualifications.
You hire the person from Russia, Poland, Mexico, China or where ever, if he/she can do the job.
When you as a businessman hire this person will he/she pay into Social Security, Yes!
OMG the baby boom isn't a problem at all Businessmen will simply hire from outside the US and all of these new citizens will pay into Social Security and cover any shortfall. And like the US from the beginning immigrants come in make a new life and improve the country.
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Stephanie Eaton Agosta
are you talkin' to me?
08:47 AM on 11/19/2010
The problem today is with health care cost and insurance premiums - all people are liabilities. You can hire someone for $30,000, they get cancer, you are self-insured, you end up paying $200,000 easily for treatment. I don't think people understand how health care is killing the profitability of human as a resource.
07:42 PM on 11/18/2010
WOW a so called Democratic president is soft on Social Security. What does this tell you about Obama? He is not capeable of leadership only COMPROMISE. Remember Obama's 119 votes present as a Illinois legislator. Barack should resign. Or WE must demand he not run for a second term, NOW. Or it's over for the middle class in America. Are there any MOOOOON BATS that still think he is a leader of the democratic cause?
EXXON and GE paid no taxes last year or any year. Yet The president thinks the only way to bail us out of this financial mess is on the backs of the elderly? GO HOME!
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07:47 PM on 11/18/2010
It goes way beyond compromise.
07:51 PM on 11/18/2010
Mr. Obama should have instructed the commission not to include Social Security in the discussion. You are right to question his stated commitment to middle class prosperity.
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dfranz
With Liberty and Justice for all
07:26 PM on 11/18/2010
The commission is mainly stocked by conservatives. I have always looked at it as a slap in the face of working people to have rich hacks like Alan Simpson on something like that making falsely contrived recommendations about the lives of people who will need that to survive. Not only have thay stripped the middleclass of much of it's wealth, now they want to even take the last safety net everyone has between them and living in a tent city relying on donated food. Over 50% of the country has no retirement plan, no savings and do not own their own homes.

It will be political suicide for this president or any other politician to come out for massive reductions or even eliminating SS. For all the Republican bluster they know this. That's why none of them want to be on the Appropriations Committee in the House. That's where the spotlight will be when they start cutting things Americans take for granted.
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jpvt
empty micro-bio means a nice person lives here
09:00 PM on 12/29/2010
You are correct. It would "be political suicide for this president or any other politician to come out for massive reductions or even eliminating SS". That's why I refuse to take this too seriously. If I took it seriously, I would just give up the ghost now, because SS is what allows me to survive.
07:20 PM on 11/18/2010
I've got an idea to reduce debt before cutting social security: lets stop paying congress salaries and all other benefits they receive including pensions.
07:16 PM on 11/18/2010
So the rich bankers and investors trash the economy and now the middle class must pay...
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speakingtruth2power
Not motivated by fear & loathing
08:08 PM on 11/18/2010
You don't expect the rich to pay for anything do you? That's unAmerican these days.