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Minnesota Governor's Race Recount Ordered

BRIAN BAKST   11/23/10 05:48 PM ET   AP

Minnesota Election Results

ST. PAUL, Minn. — A Minnesota board on Tuesday ordered a recount in the state's undecided governor's race and refined rules aimed at heading off frivolous challenges when the review of 2.1 million ballots starts next week.

The five-member State Canvassing Board certified election totals that show Democrat Mark Dayton with an 8,770-vote lead over Republican Tom Emmer. That's within the half-percentage point margin that makes a recount automatic under state law.

The recount is scheduled to begin Monday and finish by mid-December. The new governor is to take office Jan. 3, but that could be delayed if either side files a legal challenge to the recount result.

Tuesday's certification of the numbers was mostly a formality once it was clear that the unofficial election night numbers weren't going to change enough to raise Dayton's lead to more than half a point. The major issue for both the Dayton and Emmer camps was how the board would handle recount rules, and it spent hours going over them.

Among the biggest clashes was who would decide whether to classify ballot challenges as "frivolous" and whether the board could examine those ballots later. A new rule adopted after the lengthy 2008 recount of Minnesota's U.S. Senate race gave local authorities more power to question the validity of a challenge from a campaign.

Two years ago, campaign representatives challenged more than 6,600 ballots, some for nothing more than stray marks or coffee stains that did nothing to cast doubt on the voter's intent. The campaigns eventually withdrew more than 5,000 of them to spare the board from having to rule on who, if anyone, deserved the vote.

Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, a Democrat, defended that rule change and said it would deter the campaigns from trying to game the system. Challenged ballots temporarily hold votes out of candidate columns and can leave a false impression about who's ahead and by how much.

"It's in the nature of the beast to generate six times more frivolous challenges than regular ones, unless there is a prohibition against frivolous challenges," he said.

The canvassing board reconvenes next month to review challenged ballots and award those votes. The panel ultimately decided to segregate challenges deemed frivolous for possible review.

Emmer's campaign argued that local officials shouldn't have final authority to block challenges.

Supreme Court Justice Paul Anderson, a board member, said he understood Ritchie's fear of a flood of misguided challenges, but he also worried about giving the loser grounds to sue later.

"All I want, honest to God, is to get this thing resolved so the people of Minnesota can get the governor they elected," Anderson said.

Eric Magnuson, an Emmer attorney, said the board should trust campaigns not to abuse their right to challenge. Asked after the meeting what he considered to be frivolous, he gave a careful answer.

"Frivolous is in the eye of the beholder," Magnuson said. "Sitting at the table, someone can say, `I view that as a frivolous challenge' and they can be wrong. It's not that simple all the time."

Dayton attorney Marc Elias said he takes Magnuson at his word that the Emmer campaign won't lodge challenges without merit.

"We look forward to an orderly, an accurate and a timely recount," Elias said.

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StillIRise 11:18 AM on 11/24/2010
After the midterm elections, all of the headlines blasted the words, "Sweep" and "Tsunami," in respect to Republican gains.  Yet, in virtually every election the Republicans won, the winning Republican just barely squeaked in, with the election being decided in some cases by 100 or 200 votes.
 
I know that a win is a win, and I don't take that away from them; but I would hardly call it  Read More...
08:30 AM on 11/25/2010
Where was MADD during Emmer's campaign????????
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hypnotoad72
Real democracy = living wages.
09:45 AM on 11/25/2010
The republicans of the group were probably drinking a toast... :(
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henrypapillon
Mitt--free up the last 9 years' taxes
01:21 AM on 11/25/2010
The plan is for the Republicans to so undermine the democracy in this country that people are actually glad when a coup overtakes the government in this country. It is all part of a long term Republican plan to delegitimize elected government.
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MIKEBC
Old school Roosevelt democrat
08:59 PM on 11/24/2010
Emmer will lose just like horse-face coleman did.
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CPAwADD
My super power is sarcasm!
07:47 AM on 11/25/2010
Your comment is unkind TO HORSES!
09:54 AM on 11/26/2010
Coleman has the horse's face, Franken is the horse's other end. Censorship is heavy today.
03:47 PM on 11/27/2010
The censorship has picked up significantly since the Republicans won 63 House seats, 6 Senate seats and most of the State House and State Legislature races.

I suspect the Huffington Post is not really interested in any balance.
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askandtell
Proud Minnesotan; Inspired by Paul Wellstone
06:24 PM on 11/24/2010
Jay Weiner's book, This is Not Florida: How Al Franken Won The Minnesota Recount Election, gives you a taste of MN politics and the legal process. Many of the same players are involved in the Dayton Emmer recount. Link to Jay's appearance at local bookstore.

http://vodpod.com/watch/4702404-this-is-not-florida-how-al-franken-won-the-minnesota-senate-recount
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HC4BO
Far-Left Socialist
04:03 PM on 11/24/2010
Those Minnesotans are an indecisive bunch, aren't they !?!
08:34 AM on 11/25/2010
You betch ya!!
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rain33
be bold & strong as a independent person
03:44 PM on 11/24/2010
the loser is wasting taxpayers' money for nothing! let democrat winner be declared! sheesh!
Grunty1
Micro-bio this
02:31 PM on 11/24/2010
[That's within the half-percentage point margin that makes a recount automatic under state law.]
 
That's all this is. The difference between the candidates' votes is around 20 times greater than the difference between Frank and Coleman.
 
It won't be a 6 month ordeal.
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JesusGlock9OilBaron
01:08 PM on 11/24/2010
Oh ohhh....a democratic lead. Time to have the state supreme court declare Emmer the winner.
12:08 PM on 11/24/2010
Senator Cornyn wrecked Norm Colemans political career by forcing Coleman to Obstruct as long as possible. Will Emmer wreck his political career the same way? Will Pawlenty force Emmer to obstruct as long as possible so Pawlenty's term is extended? Man, I dislike the GOP!
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rgilley
11:56 AM on 11/24/2010
Franken files act two. republicans just will not admitt when they lose and then there will be doubts spread as with franken if the election was fixed. If every middle class American simply voted for the party that has thier interest at heart this problem would be solved. Instead we elderly people voting for republicans who want to kill SS and medicare and unemployed people voting for republicans who want to stop unemployment benefits, all while giving the richest 2% of Americans 700 billion dollars.
Rediculous just plain stupid.
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malwoden
common scold
12:46 PM on 11/24/2010
F & F
Grunty1
Micro-bio this
02:41 PM on 11/24/2010
Calm down. This has nothing to do with the Rushpublicans. It is an automatic recount required when the difference in votes is less than 1% of the total votes.
 
So far, they have no blame in this matter.
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hypnotoad72
Real democracy = living wages.
09:48 AM on 11/25/2010
Agreed. Only the voters who think Emmer will give a rat's about them voted for him. After all, I saw the ad of a billboard saying how Emmer will prevent jobs from going to South Dakota. (What about South Asia? We have plenty of skilled, eager talent here too and our taxes pay their salary...)
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StillIRise
The past, present and future are one
11:18 AM on 11/24/2010
After the midterm elections, all of the headlines blasted the words, "Sweep" and "Tsunami," in respect to Republican gains.  Yet, in virtually every election the Republicans won, the winning Republican just barely squeaked in, with the election being decided in some cases by 100 or 200 votes.
 
I know that a win is a win, and I don't take that away from them; but I would hardly call it a definitive mandate for Republicanism, much less a "Tsunami."   In fact, when one considers the context in which most of the wins took place,  it becomes obvious why the Republicans were able to win the House, but not the Senate.  
 
In the House elections, the Republicans were elected by a right-wing voting electorate in right-wing districts (districts that had been created by the right over the past years).  This same dynamic played out in some local elections as well (i.e. governors).  And with only a few exceptions, the candidates they defeated were either establishment GOP (as opposed to Tea Party GOP) or Blue Dog conservative Democrats, who may as well have been establishment GOP.  Therefore the outcome of these elections should not have been surprising.  In fact, it would have been more surprising had they not won!
 
Yet, because the Senate elections relies on a much broader voting population, one that better represents the mainstream, the Republicans were generally defeated.
 
There's also a possible irony in the midterm election results that I find interesting.  Many of the Republican gains were won by tea party candidates, voted in by a tea party electorate in tea party Republican districts/states.   Had the tea party candidates been defeated by their establishment GOP or conservative Democratic opponents, most Americans would never know just how crazy they are, which probably would have boded well for Republicans in 2012.
 
But now, as House representatives or Governors - and as they're compelled to actually govern - the American people will get a 3-D view of the lunacy of the tea party Republicans, and will be tripping over each other in 2012, not only to "take our country back" from the threat of even more Republican tea partiers, but also to make sure that President Barack Obama is re-elected.
 
You truly have to be careful of what you wish for ... and God does indeed work in mysterious ways!
 
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MNinWI
01:07 PM on 11/24/2010
It's just the way corp news spins things-in their favor-like when the repugs defeated extensions for unemployed-corp news spun as a Dem failure & not a repug obstruction. The repugs will also kill net neutrality soon. Ready for this?? They are out to destroy our democracy & going to get away w/ it I am afraid.
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Justan Olfrend
Liberal, Progressive, Independent, American
11:04 AM on 11/24/2010
The State that most folks assumed does this stuff best becomes what?
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gwinegarden
She's an Arctic Wolf
10:48 AM on 11/24/2010
I have always wondered why a recount takes tens times longer than the original count.
02:34 PM on 11/24/2010
'Cause each ballot is physically handled and counted by hand in a room full of people--reps from both sides plus local election officials in attendance. This process, vs feeding ballots into machines to be read electronically, is very tedious and time consuming--but important to the democratic principle that every vote counts.
Grunty1
Micro-bio this
02:43 PM on 11/24/2010
It isn't a mystery. MN uses the "fill in the bubble, run ballot through counting machine" method. The only counts being done manually in the original count would be write in ballots.
 
The recount will be entirely by hand
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JMac79
10:06 AM on 11/24/2010
I could understand the need for the Franken/Coleman recount - the gap between the two was much, much, much closer following the '08 elections - but the more I read about this recount between Dayton and Emmer, the more ridiculous it seems. Does the Minnesota GOP really think they're going to be able to make up, or essentially "flip" 8700 votes? That would be absolutely unprecedented in American politics, and the largest recount switch in history (at least here in the United States).

My guess is that the GOP is considering two things:

1. ) That they see any "bad news" for the DFL and the State of Minnesota, even if it paints the Republicans in a poor light as well, as good for them. It comes down to the Republican core principle over the past 40 years - that government is bad/inefficient/ineffective/unfair/"the problem"; if they make a decent segment of the population frustrated with our political process and with the ways in which our governments operate, even if it's clear that they're the ones manipulating and gumming up the system, that they'll actually get votes from those people at some point in the future.

2.) They're salivating about having a Repulican state house, senate, and holding Pawlenty in the governorship while the recount continues. As a Minnesotan, this is what scares the beejesus out of me; an opportunity for some of the craziest of the crazy Republicans in the state to ram through legislation...
10:09 AM on 11/24/2010
So now the left doesn't want to follow thelaw......................amazing!!!
10:16 AM on 11/24/2010
I do not see where you got that from that post.
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JMac79
10:27 AM on 11/24/2010
The recount may be mandatory - but Emmer could still concede, and make the process much more expeditious. And the gap which he'd have to cover in a recount is unprecedented in American history (by an order of magnitude or so)... so much that Emmer losing is realistically a foregone conclusion, at least to those who understand the history of recounts. My point though is that there looks to be some significant political advantages for the MN GOP to take this tack... even if I don't like the reality of it.

And in the tone of your reply...

The right wants to misrepresent someone's point, or even reality itself? Imagine that...
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AxelDC
10:22 AM on 11/24/2010
It's legally mandated based on the margin.  The Coleman-Franken recount was legally mandated, but then Coleman pushed for further recounts beyond the initial one.
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JMac79
10:34 AM on 11/24/2010
I guess that's where the MN GOP could still surprise me; they could go through this recount, and not try to find any and every reason to stall the process, and let the system do its job as designed. My thought is that Emmer conceding would likely hasten that possibility, while I do understand that the votes still need to be recounted.

But I just tend to think that ain't gonna happen - there's too many political advantages for the MN GOP to make this as ugly as they possibly can, even if their chances of winning are infinitesimally small. Kind of a "scorched Earth" strategy...
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JMac79
10:41 AM on 11/24/2010
I understand that, and this is where the MN GOP could still surprise me; if they decide to let the recount system work as it is designed, and not challenge every aspect of the process as they did in '08, then maybe I'd have a bit more respect for them. Emmer conceding, even in lieu of completed recount, would likely hasten such a process.

But I don't think that's gonna happen - there's simply too many political advantages for them to make this as ugly as possible. It's the beauty of the GOP strategy - they can win when things go well with government, and they can win when things go horribly wrong as well (even if their political, administrative, and economic policies were at the heart of the problem).
10:05 AM on 11/24/2010
This is the same state where the recount gave us Stuart Smiley; I mean Al Franken.
10:07 AM on 11/24/2010
Al is doing a great job and I am happy to have voted for him. If anyone make us a joke it would be Bachman.
10:16 AM on 11/24/2010
I agree, just about the only member of the Senate fighting for Net Nuetrality. But hey I am sure Huff post will pay the extra fees to make its site a priority. Oh and he also attempted to make it illegal for a Corporation to make you sign your rights away, but yeah he's just a good for nothing comedian. Best representation this state has had since "Wellstone!".
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AxelDC
10:23 AM on 11/24/2010
At least he never made a movie with a chimpanzee.
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woody7
Always a Dem, but..............
02:41 PM on 11/25/2010
lights out for Coleman?