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Congress Skeptical About Obama's Tax Cut Summit, Schumer's $1 Million Proposal

First Posted: 11/30/10 08:21 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

Tax Cut Summit

WASHINGTON -- Faced with a tough decision to make on the expiring Bush tax cuts, Congress and the White House did Tuesday what they do best: They passed the buck.

With the resolution to a fight Washington has known was coming for 10 years still hanging in the balance, a small group of legislators will meet with top executive-branch officials, including Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner and Office of Management and Budget Director Jacob Lew, sometime this week -- perhaps as early as Wednesday -- to hammer out a deal.

The lawmakers slated to attend include Senate Finance Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.) and Rep. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), likely the next ranking member of the House Budget Committee; from the other side of the aisle, Senate Minority Whip Jon Kyl (R-Ariz.), the ranking member of the taxation subcommittee, and Rep. Dave Camp (R-Mich.), the top Republican on the powerful House Ways and Means Committee.

There wasn't much confidence expressed Tuesday in their ability to forge consensus.

"I'm skeptical," said Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.), citing Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell's statement that his top priority is to oust President Barack Obama in 2012. "That creates a real barrier, it seems to me."

As long as McConnell and his fellow Republicans see compromise as a boon to Obama's political fortunes, a deal may be impossible, Levin said. But, he added, "if he wants to succeed, he is going to have to get beyond that. He is going to have to help us succeed as a country. And if the president is a beneficiary of the country's success, then he has got to accept that."

Hill aides say Republicans appear to hold most of the cards heading into the talks. While Obama has the loudest megaphone in the tax-cut debate, he's outsourced his role to Lew and Geithner. That GOP lawmakers would feel emboldened with the president out of the picture was a major concern for Democratic aides in the hours after the summit idea was proposed. Another fear: High-stakes talks -- in which blame for caving could be acutely directed to a solitary lawmaker -- may compel both sides to dig in and not budge.

Each party certainly exhibited a bit of recalcitrance in the immediate aftermath of the summit announcement. A GOP source, privy to the meeting Obama held with congressional leadership earlier in the day, let it be known that, in the source's words, incoming Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) believed there was "no substitute for immediate action to cut spending and stop the coming tax hikes for all taxpayers."

"If [Republicans] were serious about bringing down that deficit, then they have to look at [letting tax cuts above $250,000 expire] as one of the options," Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) said on her way out of a caucus meeting later in the day.

Even the prospective tax-cut compromises drew criticism on Tuesday. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs was asked during his daily press briefing to address a counterproposal, championed by Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), that would raise taxes only on individuals earning $1 million or more per year, rather than $250,000.

"Does that have shades of a compromise?" Gibbs was asked.

"I don't, quite frankly, see that it has," he replied. "I don't see that it has moved any Republican, and I think the president has restated the case today for a $250,000 threshold for those filing together."

Others on the Hill echoed Gibbs -- worried, it appeared, that to raise the threshold would be to redefine the middle class as those making $1 million or less.

"I'm not talking compromise," said Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.). "I think we should go to the floor, we should have the vote on $250,000. That is certainly far more than an average working person earns throughout this country."

But, as with most issues put before the Democratic caucus these days, consensus is elusive. While Gibbs was throwing cold water on the idea of raising the taxable income level to $1 million, others were begrudgingly embracing it.

"I believe we ought to have a $250K limit for tax cuts, and if we can't get that done, then we ought to be willing to raise it up to a million," said Levin. "That is my tenth choice. Number one through nine is the $250,000."

Levin argued, however, that such a move wouldn't redefine what constitutes the middle class. "It's just one vote," he said. "I've swallowed it in order to get the middle class tax cut continued. Everything I've swallowed around here doesn't taste good."

Behind the scenes, sources said taking the Schumer approach could be the party's best deal. Conceding to Republican demands for at least a temporary extension of the tax cuts for the wealthy would simply invite similar moves down the road. And while Democrats seem poised to push for other goodies in exchange for their acquiescence -- unemployment benefits chief among them -- allowing a portion of the Bush tax cuts to expire is an important precedent to set. At the very least, it's a sound political move.

"Republicans are worried about this proposal because they know it will expose them as fighting on behalf of millionaires as opposed to the middle class," Schumer spokesman Brian Fallon said.

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Marcospinelli 11:31 PM on 11/30/2010
There should be tax HIKES on corporations and the rich.  There should be massive cuts to the military.  Banks should be threatened with nationalization unless they begin lending to small businesses.  

Democratic politicians should be beating this drum, loudly and constantly.

Obama and  Read More...  have already indicated they're on board with Social Security cuts, privatizing, etc. -- Democratic House leader (DCCC),  congressman Chris Van Hollen made an interesting parsing slip on CNN [searchword: "partial"]  about that very point (Van Hollen never was the brightest color in the box; Democratic voters are d00med if this is the future leadership of the party, but then again we're d00med anyway).  

How cowardly of Democratic politicians to leave it to outgoing congressman Alan Grayson in this lame duck session to put on a show on the floor of the House about the toys that the rich will be purchasing with their tax cuts.

Has anybody seen the Democratic leadership lately?  Where is Obama?  Where is Harry Reid?  Where is Nancy Pelosi?  Where is Steny Hoyer?  Where is Jim Clyburn?  WHERE ARE THE PEOPLE'S LEADERS???

Come to think of it, where's Elizabeth Warren?  Weren't her supporters, the ones who assured everyone it was just fine for her to take an advisory role to Obama instead of one with teeth, with power, saying we'd be hearing from her all the time, calling Obama and Geithner out?

Obama's been a quisling from the very beginning.  Pro-corporate, pro-war and military industrial complex.  That's what the DLC is all about.
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Willard Romney, "runs-with-scissors".
07:35 PM on 12/05/2010
Can you imagine the multi-millionaires/billionaires all snug in their warm homes quite above all the fray not caring one way or another if they receive this tax cut. And certainly not needing it for survival but thankful that somewhere in Washington D.C. there are those fighting for them and they'll probably win this fight on their behalf. How it must feel to be so warm and cozy by the fire this holiday and knowing that out there in the cold air of winter someone cares so much for you. God Bless America.
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03:56 PM on 12/01/2010
JohnFugelsang

"The Democratic Party is like a battered S&M submissive who forgot his safety word."
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02:48 PM on 12/01/2010
It's so easy to be a Republican. They just stand pat and refuse to cooperate with the Dems until they get what they want. Dems have to debate, divide, worry, compromise with their own heads, on and on, before they maybe sorta decide what to do. What's going to happen is, the GOPers will get what they want, tax cuts for the rich, while the jobless will just have to fend for themselves. Can't have deficit spending if money might get into the pockets of the average person--but the rich? Come on, they should have every cent the gov't can put in their bank accounts. That way, they can make large contributions to the GOPers' next election campaign. Americans wake up, the GOPers have always been the party of the rich and if you are not making more than $250,000 a year you should not be voting for them.
02:57 PM on 12/01/2010
Dems need to get off raising of taxes on anyone. They don't have the votes and to continue this fruitless debate is not going to win them any converts. And Dems wonder why they got booted out of power in Nov......
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CT Independent
01:28 PM on 12/01/2010
Let all the tax cuts lapse. We cant afford them; rich or poor alike.
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01:22 PM on 12/01/2010
mtrem 3 hours ago (10:04 AM) 38 Fans Become a fan Unfan

No matter what words you use, Einstein, concentrat­ion of wealth can't be denied....

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Ah, a redistribu­tionist!
As long as man has been on this planet, that conundrum has existed. I'm sure you have a solution, but, what would be the future plan after all the funds had been spread around, because surely the wealth concentrat­ionists would no longer bother.
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lmunoz
01:22 PM on 12/01/2010
this is really not a good development, it seems the president's strategy to outsource anything difficult like he did on health care is nothing but an admision that he wants to again give concessions. He just thinks that by outsourcing it somehow he will keep his hands clean.

I have pledged not to try anymore to understand his thinking or strategy because it seems to boil down to doing anything so he doesnt have to confront those who seek to destroy him and to try to understand such logic is a waste of time, and when possible throw an insult to pesky liberals yet always praise anyone who acts as a conservative because you know "they have legitimate philosophical differences" its never partisan with them...

For god's sake lets find a challenger for 2012, does anyone think Feingold might step up?
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Daniel R Cobb
01:19 PM on 12/01/2010
The Republican hypocrisy on the the deficit and tax cuts is astounding­. They SCREAM about deficit spending only when it suits them and Tthey use THAT to kill unemployme­nt benefits to the millions of jobless Americans, in the dead of winter. Yet they are falling all over themselves to shovel 700 BILLION dollars in tax breaks to the rich. If tax cuts solve ALL problems, let's cut all taxes to zero. The Republican Party is only an instrument of the corporatio­ns and the uber wealthy, they have NO REGARD for the average American. The massive transfer of America's wealth to the richest has been carried out by Republican tax cuts and loopholes­. Tax rates on the rich are the lowest they have been in 50 years. The middle class is vanishing, poverty is at record highs, and these fat cat corporatist sellouts want to shovel still MORE money at the some of richest people on earth! The Republican Party is simply not relevant to us anymore. DEMOCRATS! GET A SPINE! NO COMPROMISE!
02:58 PM on 12/01/2010
It's not hypocrisy, Repubs finally get it. They're finally proposing solutions demanded by the People.
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Daniel R Cobb
03:13 PM on 12/01/2010
No way. No way on Earth. The Repubs are owned by corporate America.
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09:37 AM on 12/03/2010
You don't really believe that, do you??? What makes you think the People are more important to them than getting elected, or hurting Obama?
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TBull
Come And Take It is a dare, not a request
06:50 PM on 12/01/2010
What does"dead of winter" have to do with cutting unemployment benefits. You sound a whole lot like a lawyer defending a child molester. You can't buttress your case with silly pleas for sympathy. Maybe if the prez had been focused on employment rather than socialism this problem wouldn't exist.
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because I want it empty...
01:19 PM on 12/01/2010
Obama gets a chance to stand up to the teapubs and he asks some of his cabinet to do the job. He's about 2 to 3 weeks away from losing his base. Merry Christmas Mr. President. I bet $40.00 on him getting relected and he hasnt stood up to the repubs once. One term Obama. Bye bye $40.
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Bad Actor
01:16 PM on 12/01/2010
Why negotiate something that has already been decided ? The tax cuts for the wealthy expire on 12/31--so be it. They received the TEMPORARY tax cuts with the full knowledge of that proviso. They have already eaten so much of the candy that our whole country is sick and possibly dying. The same group who facilitated the deficit by supporting the disastrous Bush/Cheney years are trying to prolong them by filibuster--they are like dog poop on a tennis shoe. And, before I forget it, PISS ON THE DEFICIT COMMISSION BECAUSE FOR THE ELDERLY IT BOILS DOWN TO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.
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01:05 PM on 12/01/2010
You want to see how spineless this President is.....Jamie Dimon telling him not to denigrate Wall Street
http://www.businessinsider.com/jamie-dimon-abraham-lincoln-obama-dont-be-so-mean-2010-12
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hypnotoad72
Real democracy = living wages.
12:53 PM on 12/01/2010
None of us should be skeptical by now. Except more are skeptical now than we were in 2008. It's sad everything is such a mess.
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12:48 PM on 12/01/2010
I just created a petition: Congressio­­­nal Non Performanc­­­e, because I care deeply about this very important issue.

I'm trying to collect 100,000 signatures by March 01, and I could really use your help.

To read more about what I'm trying to do and to sign my petition, click here:
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It'll just take a minute!
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01:06 PM on 12/01/2010
I couldn't get it to work
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01:28 PM on 12/01/2010
Use a link shortener.
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12:48 PM on 12/01/2010
Most of us understood that we were electing a glorified state senator, but his lack of experience, and we thought, lack of insider DC contamination, were actually pluses. But instead of making up his own game ("change"), he played the old one, and by the books.

Status quo on the vast majority of Bush's initiatives and a year blown on a massive new entitlement that the country cannot afford during a time when the American people were begging for some kind of plan to address the economy and the housing meltdown, and for truth and a fresh perspective on our wars.

As the Obama administration noted, a crisis is an opportunity. It was the perfect environment to demonstrate the change that he promised, but he played it safe, he hedged, he outsourced, he triangulated, he abdicated, and continues to do so.
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12:40 PM on 12/01/2010
PerfectSense is praising the Republican Jesus again: Reagan, beginning with a 227 million-po­pulation base, created 16.7 million jobs during his term. Proportion­ately, Obama, starting with a 307 million-po­pulation base, will have to create about 22.6 million jobs to equal Reagan's employment gains. Since Obama has lost about 3.0 million jobs to date, he needs to create 25.4 million jobs over his last six years to equal Read More... Reagan. And Reagan did with starting with record high oil prices, high inflation and 21% interest rates.

Poor O, he will not measure up to Reagan.
You are viewing "his accomplishments" quite selectively. Debt and defict spending soared under Reagan as did deregulation of business. R was not responsible for creating jobs. The American people who create, have ideas and aspirations are responsible for our forward movement. The republican mantra is that government should be out of our lives and let us create. That's all fine until through our "creations" we foul things up and are led to unintended consequences like record debt and outsourcing of middle/working class jobs to cheap labor countries, hence unemployment at a time of record corporate profits. We've shot ourselves in the foot or may be heart. We do not live in the era of Reagan economically. We are a long long way from that. We'll need to get to work to figure this one out a different way.
11:19 PM on 12/01/2010
Bravo! President Reagan Smoked the National Credit Card during economic good times. He did not kick start the American Economy. President Obama is selectively trying to create a job stimulus in an economy that votes with their money for foreign products. This is inverse to job creation in the U.S. Anyone can show you a good time if you let them smoke your credit card and give it back at its high credit limit. If you want to create jobs it requires buying American Products, not cutting taxes for the wealthy.
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12:36 PM on 12/01/2010
Not sure why we're having this conversation.  The WH has already acknowledge that a deal has been struck to extend Bush tax cuts before the deadline, but only on a temporary basis (2 to 3 years).