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Supreme Court Questions Broad Government Use Of FOIA Exemption To Withhold Documents

MARK SHERMAN   12/ 1/10 01:29 PM ET   AP

Supreme Court Foia Exemption

WASHINGTON — The Supreme Court on Wednesday questioned the government's broad use of an exemption in the federal Freedom of Information Act to withhold documents from the public.

The justices heard argument in an appeal from Glen Milner, a Washington state resident who sued under FOIA for maps showing the extent of damage expected from an explosion at the Navy's main West Coast ammunition dump on an island near Port Townsend in western Washington.

The Obama administration is defending the decision to deny Milner the maps under a provision of FOIA that exempts from disclosure documents "related solely to the internal personnel rules and practices of an agency."

Chief Justice John Roberts said the administration was asking the court "to torture the language in FOIA" to keep the documents from being made public. Roberts also noted the public's frustration with FOIA, even when the government is willing to turn over material. "It takes forever to get the documents," he said.

Several other justices indicated that they also thought the government and several appeals courts that have dealt with FOIA lawsuits have interpreted the exception too broadly.

"If the agency has a rule that says put explosive A in building 1 and put explosive B in building 2, that's hard for me to explain that it's just a personnel rule, other than, as Justice Scalia says, everything, all functions have to be undertaken by humans," Justice Anthony Kennedy said.

But Kennedy also said that a victory for Milner might mean that the government stamps more documents as classified, which makes them unavailable under FOIA.

The case before the court revolves around competing ideas of public safety. The government says that releasing the maps could allow someone to identify the precise location of the munitions that are stored on Indian Island.

Justices Samuel Alito and Stephen Breyer appeared most sympathetic to the government's view.

"The Navy thinks, rightly or wrongly, that they don't want these maps circulated because they think it would make it easier to blow up the munitions," Breyer said. "They want the firemen to have them, they want the civil defense workers to have them, but they don't want people who might blow them up to have them."

On the other hand, Milner argues that the people who live nearby have valid reasons for wanting to know whether they would be endangered by an explosion.

"Can the public seek information that places the community at a severe security risk? Is it possible for us to say that that kind of information ... could not be legitimate public information?" Justice Sonia Sotomayor asked.

An explosion at the Navy's Port Chicago ammunition depot during World War II killed 320 people.

Milner is a longtime community activist who is concerned about safety issues at several area naval facilities. His lawyer, David Mann, also pointed out what he described as the arbitrary nature of the government's responses to document requests.

While one Navy official refused to release the map from the ammunition dump, an official at a nearby submarine base provided Milner the map showing the probable range of damage from an explosion there.

The Associated Press is among 20 news media organizations that filed a brief urging the court to limit the government's invocation of the personnel exemption.

A decision is expected before summer.

The case is Milner v. Department of the Navy, 09-1163.

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davidpkronmiller 07:48 PM on 12/01/2010
Wait so the guy got the map but still went to the supreme court? Confused on this. And I don't think the government should just give out maps to our ammunition locations.

"While one Navy official refused to release the map from the ammunition dump, an official at a nearby submarine base provided Milner the map showing the probable range of damage from an explosion there."

So did he get the map  Read More...
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jimpager
08:25 PM on 12/04/2010
This could be another of the corrupt supreme court's decisions as corrosive to the constitution as Citizen's United was.

This time its the freedom of the press under attack. America's government knows whats in the papers, Wikileaks knows whats in the papers, the press in Europe and America knows whats in the papers, soon the European public will know whats in the papers, our enemies around the world already know whats in the papers. Methinks they are no longer secrets. Whatever damage be done to the military position (another laughable argument we heard thruout the Pentagon Papers rollout) is ALREADY done...so now the corrupt supremes come along, and what did Rahm say, "never let a good crisis go unused?", and the supremes will use Wikileaks to strike down freedom of the press. Only in America's corrupt empire would the Supreme Court restrict the abilty of the American people to be the only ones in the world NOT allowed access to the Wikileak's "secrets". Everyone else already knows. America's government is committing "Mushroom Management". "Keep 'em in the dark, crap all over them, and surely they will grow." Just like mushrooms. But I ask you, grow into what? Secrecy and the dark ages have been know to produce the Inquisition, the Klan, the Birch Society, Macarthyism, and now Teabaggers. Are these the models we want to nurture?
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skeller
11:49 AM on 12/02/2010
If the Navy is worried about security, then why weren't the documents classified in the first place. If it is so they can give them to first responders who don't have security clearance then they should be able to give them out generally. It sounds more as if they are concerned about political fallout from residents.
11:08 AM on 12/02/2010
just when you think the SCOTUS is COMPLETELY evil they turn around do their job for once...
10:30 AM on 12/02/2010
This Supreme Court wants disclosure??? or isit the biggest smoke screen around
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Nosybear
Liar, damned liar and statistician
10:07 AM on 12/02/2010
Hence the need for Wikileaks....
09:17 AM on 12/02/2010
This is nothing. My FOIA request withheld documents under the pretense that it would "reveal investigative techniques" Yet the few documents I did get claimed no investigation was done.
Corrupt to the core.
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ProfessorDuh
09:14 AM on 12/02/2010
"Torturing FOIA?" So what. Americans endorse torture, and the White House shields torturers.
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The Dude67
This is not Nam; this is bowling, there are rules.
09:08 AM on 12/02/2010
I still want to know why the government won't release the videos that show what actually hit the Pentagon. 

I mean I appreciate the 5 frames of video they released that shows absolutely nothing, but since we all know what hit the building (a 757 piloted by Hani Hanjour) and since we've all watched the planes hitting the twin towers about a 1000 times one would figure it'd be no big deal to release these videos, right?
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Donns
08:16 AM on 12/02/2010
Wikileaks, we need you.
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cybersense
08:38 AM on 12/02/2010
Donns, wikileaks can be good, but their style and their own agenda may not be the answer we are looking for entirely. Keep that in mind when you search for answers. It isn't just Americans that will see this information. Also, I am a big fan of knowing information to help us - but some information does just the opposite. It is a fine line - and there are those who actually wouldn't understand what they are reading and react to information overtly so. You have seen in our own nation how people get frantic so easily over untruths, or real information twisted, right?
 
There are those who just are beginning to understand that we are actually a global nation and have been for sometime. What people do not do is think with reason to that. I am for any information being used to protect those who otherwise wouldn't know enough to protect themselves. I think there should be enough information regarding whether these people should move, or put pressure for real safety. But, in the wrong hands - this information could cause more harm. Hard one, right?
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M Cubed
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08:46 AM on 12/02/2010
Wikileaks is not a permanent solution. It takes advantage of opportunities presented to it through stolen documents and leaked information. It lacks structure, and that lack of structure leads to questions about the provenance of the information. If I can question where the information came from, that makes it less that trustworthy.

The FOIA is a legal structure through which one can get information and know that the source is a direct path from government files. That way, the information has a secure provenance. However, the process can be cumbersome, and it does take some effort--as opposed to copy and pasting from some email. We only hear about the more exotic cases, like Milner's. Note that he has the capability to argue this all the way to the Supreme Court. What has Wikileaks got? I mean, aside from warrants out for the questioning of the leader and the main thief in the brig?
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Pharoah Narim
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11:17 AM on 12/02/2010
Wikileaks is only filling the vacuum left by the regression of REAL JOURNALISM!!! Much of what has been leaked could have been unearthed by a determined reporter with the support of their station's/paper's/magazine's leadership. Media, WE NEED YOU!!!
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breakingpoint
War is a Racket - Smedley Butler
08:00 AM on 12/02/2010
time to secede
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M Cubed
My shampoo is gluten-free!
07:53 AM on 12/03/2010
Isn't that the cowards' way out? Running away from the problem? Why are inner-city schools so bad? because the people who really cared about great education took their kids somewhere else.
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PopeRatzo
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07:52 AM on 12/02/2010
That's OK, Wikileaks will take care of that little FOIA problem the government seems to have.
06:52 AM on 12/02/2010
It is interesting, perhaps even surprising, that the Supreme Court would take this position, given their proclivity for stomping on individual rights. The arguments about whether the present ruling will cause more documents to be classified is fallacious, because even classified documents can be sought under the Freedom of Information Act. What the act was supposed to do was to make the government's dealings more transparent by making it harder to withhold information from the public. In that regard, it has been a nearly complete failure. The reason is that that organizations responsible for expunging the sensitive information are the same ones whose interests are served by withholding it; thus the tendency to see all words aside from conjunctions and articles expunged from documents.
For the FOIA to work effectively, there needs to be an outside ombudsman to adjudicate all FOIA requests. We have seen repeatedly that the government, like all other large institutions, is incapable of policing itself.
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cybersense
08:44 AM on 12/02/2010
I think this works both ways when it comes to who should have the information - and what information should be given out. I agree, that in the wrong hands - this information could be dangerous - especially with the evidence of all the nutty people our and about. If there was a way they could give out this information to someone who would actually make sure that dangerous details wouldn't get put out for all the nuts to see - I would implement that. Transparency is only good if it does good. Perhaps this should be given to someone who will not only use this information for the good, but who will protect those details that could produce more harm then good. Hard one. But, I do like this man who is trying to protect his community. I like that he wants to ensure not only his safety, but his whole community. I wonder how far he would give out that information, or if he would use it to ensure certain actions are taken to protect them. Some truth in the wrong hands is more dangerous then ammunition being stored.
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M Cubed
My shampoo is gluten-free!
08:56 AM on 12/02/2010
NPR  reported this morning that Al Queida in Yemen is already using--as a recruitment tool-- the leaked documents that note that the Yemeni leadership drinks liquor.

http://www.npr.org/2010/12/02/131740423/wikileaks-yemen-cables-could-embolden-al-qaida

You are so, so, correct, Cybersense!
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cliffhammond
Onward through the fog!
05:25 AM on 12/02/2010
I swear, the Supreme Court is leaning to the right in that picture. I'll even bet their members lean to the right.
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PopeRatzo
My user photo was not photoshopped.
07:53 AM on 12/02/2010
I noticed the same thing. I couldn't tell if the Court was leaning Right or my perspective was leaning Left, as it is inclined (tee hee) to do.
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lackofoversight
A nickel isn't worth a dime today... Y. Berra
04:35 AM on 12/02/2010
I never thought I would see the day when a conservative Supreme Court would lecture a Democratic administration that they were continually using a weak personnel exemption clause to block information from reaching the public. Obama has spoken many times that government needs to be more transparent .... but the reality is .... this administration fights at all levels to maintain the statis quo, not rock the boat and conduct federal business as usual .... just like all the other administrations in the past.
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moonlightesq
07:18 AM on 12/02/2010
All the promises of transparency by this administration prior to election never happened. In fact this administration is more secretive than ever.
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cybersense
08:48 AM on 12/02/2010
Been to one of those rallies? You know, where they call the President Hitler and carry guns? I have a neighbor down the street I would purposely hold any information that he would react to because any fuel added, would not be wisely reasoned. When I see this people, I get nervous. Not because there are those who would think better, but because within our nation - we have people who react to information with extreme notions.
 
But, this man "seems" to be doing this to protect his community. I wouldn't want everyone to have that information, however.
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dubbleplusgood
turned off CNN, turned on CurrentTV
04:20 AM on 12/02/2010
I see right through the 'transparency'.