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Geoengineering Debate Surfaces As UN Climate Change Talks In Cancun Falter

CHARLES J. HANLEY   12/ 4/10 06:45 PM ET   AP

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CANCUN, Mexico — Like the warming atmosphere above, a once-taboo idea hangs over the slow, frustrating U.N. talks to curb climate change: the idea to tinker with the atmosphere or the planet itself, pollute the skies to ward off the sun, fill the oceans with gas-eating plankton, do whatever it takes.

As climate negotiators grew more discouraged in recent months, U.S. and British government bodies urged stepped-up studies of such "geoengineering." The U.N. climate science network decided to assess the options. And a range of new research moved ahead in America and elsewhere.

"The taboo is broken," Paul Crutzen, a Nobel Prize-winning atmospheric scientist, told The Associated Press.

Whatever the doubts, "we are amazingly farther up the road on geoengineering," Crutzen, who wrote a 2006 scientific article that sparked interest in geoengineering, said by telephone from Germany.

But environmentalists are asking: Who's in charge? Who gets to decide whether to take such drastic action, with possibly unforeseen consequences for people worldwide?

"This is really a risky, dangerous option," said environmentalist Silvia Ribeiro, here for the two-week negotiating session of parties to the 193-nation U.N. climate treaty.

Just a few years ago, geoengineering was regarded as a fringe idea, a science-fiction playground for imaginative scientists and engineers.

Schemes were floated for using aircraft, balloons or big guns to spread sulfate particles in the lower stratosphere to reflect sunlight, easing the warming scientists say is being caused by carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases emitted by industry, vehicles and agriculture.

Others suggested assembling gargantuan mirrors in orbit to fend off the solar radiation. Still others propose – and a German experiment tried – seeding the ocean with iron, a nutrient that would spur the spread of plankton, which absorb atmospheric carbon dioxide.

Sky, sea and land – the ideas vary, from spraying ocean clouds with sea salt to make them brighter and more reflective; to planting vast arid lands with agave, the "tequila plant," which stores carbon for years and grows where climate-friendly forests can't; to developing the chemistry and machines to suck in CO2 from the air and store it.

Specialists regard the stratospheric sulfates proposal as among the most feasible. The U.S. government's National Center for Atmospheric Research has undertaken computer modeling to assess its effect, for one thing, on the protective ozone layer.

The Colorado center also is researching the brightening of maritime stratocumulus clouds with seawater droplets. The center's John Latham, a British physicist, has drawn up plans for a field trial, although he said they're not yet funded.

Funding may not be far off.

In September, the U.S. Government Accountability Office recommended in a 70-page report that the White House "establish a clear strategy for geoengineering research" within its science office.

A month later, a report from U.S. Rep. Bart Gordon, a Democrat from Tennessee who chairs the House Science and Technology Committee, urged the government to consider climate-engineering research "as soon as possible in order to ensure scientific preparedness for future climate events."

The U.S. panel had collaborated in its study with a British House of Commons committee.

"We may need geoengineering as a `Plan B,'" the British report said, if nations fail to forge agreement on a binding treaty to rein in greenhouse gases.

Perhaps most significantly, the U.N.-sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, IPCC, the global authority on climate science, agreed in October to take on geoengineering in its next assessment report. Its hundreds of scientists will begin with a session next spring.

"You have to understand its potential. We also have to understand the downside," IPCC Chairman Rajendra Pachauri said in an interview with the AP. Of the proposed sulfate layer, he asked, "What might be some of the implications of making that change in the atmosphere?"

Skeptics point to implications: For one, blocking the sun could itself suddenly shift the climate, especially precipitation patterns. For another, it would do nothing to keep the atmospheric CO2 buildup from acidifying the oceans, a grave threat to marine life.

But the science and engineering may be the easier part, says Britain's national science academy.

"The greatest challenges," the Royal Society said in a 2009 report, "may be the social, ethical, legal and political issues associated with governance."

Activist Ribeiro's Canada-based ETC organization accuses Washington of taking a "coalition of the willing" approach to geoengineering, going ahead with its British ally and perhaps others, disregarding the rest of the world.

Ribeiro said the United Nations must be in control: "It can't be voluntary schemes outside the U.N. when you're talking about manipulating the climate."

Critics suggest the Americans, whose resistance to mandatory emissions reductions has long helped block a global climate deal, view "Plan B" as a "Plan A," to avoid having to rein in emissions.

The U.S. and British parliamentary reports seem to diverge on governance. The House of Commons committee concluded, "The U.N. is the route" to a regulatory framework. The U.S. report never mentions the U.N.

The ETC campaigners scored a coup in October at a biodiversity treaty conference in Japan, where the parties adopted a vague moratorium on geoengineering experiments that might endanger biodiversity. One problem: The U.S. is not a party to that treaty.

"Can anything be meaningful if the U.S. is not a party to it?" Scott Barrett asked rhetorically.

Barrett, an environmental policy expert at New York's Columbia University, helped organize a geoengineering conference last March in California. He said he wants to see emissions slashed, not climate manipulation. But he opposes research bans.

"What happens if we discover we're on the precipice of a runaway greenhouse effect, and the only thing we can do is geoengineering? Are people going to say you can't do it?" he asked.

He believes geoengineering controls should be negotiated under the U.N. climate treaty. Pachauri agrees.

"If they feel there are risks involved, then it's up to them to decide how best to monitor them," the IPCC chief said of the treaty parties.

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dragonmaster
06:34 AM on 12/28/2010
I fear that radical Geo engineering will be tried in utter desperation as rapid climate change begins to accelerate after 2020 - many geo-engineering ideas are to say the least risky- and could make our problems worse.

It would be best to drastically reduce the use of coal- and very soon- the time time to prevent dangerous climate change- and the chaos it will cause has likely passed.
02:49 AM on 12/11/2010
Geoengineering is in full force globally, without the consent of the people, and for over a decade. They talk like they are investigating or exploring the possibility of geoengineering. In reality we are being sprayed like bugs. It is taboo to talk about this. It is taboo to look up and observe the wholesale rape of our atmosphere. The weather report is a lie. It is a crime.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdtLTyNOB0A
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VioletsAreBlue12
06:14 PM on 12/07/2010
Can they do something about this please.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXOiggsDKfI&feature=related
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drkazmd65
Mom Taught me - Question Everything - Thanks Mom!
04:12 PM on 12/07/2010
As a scientist - I find the ideas behind geoengineering to be both fascination, and scary as all get out.

Beware the law of unintended consequences when you muck about with something as complicated as our atmosphere and climate.
07:28 AM on 12/07/2010
Remember how humans blocked off the sun in The Matrix to cut off the machine's solar power? That worked well.

Really! Humanity would rather tamper with the Earth than to give up gasoline? This may be the end.
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Patchdee
04:54 AM on 12/07/2010
When the powers that be figure out how to make a profit fighting green house gases they will jump on board.
11:29 PM on 12/06/2010
Wouldn't putting sulfates in the atmosphere to reflect sunlight reduce the effectiveness of solar panels?
04:30 AM on 12/07/2010
Yes, but marginally. The greater concern is acid rain. They'd release the sulfates into the dry air at high altitudes, but like any airborne particulate it would eventually migrate to lower altitudes where it would mix with water vapor and form sulfuric acid.

Decades ago, the combustion of fossil fuels used to be more like the eruption of volcanoes, with the warming effects of carbon dioxide counteracted by the cooling effects of sulfur dioxide.

But in recent decades the western world has mandated flue gas desulfurization in response to the negative effects of acid rain, thereby exposing the complete warming potential of coal, which is very high in carbon and sulfur.

The idea would be to use the existing flue gas desulfurization process of injecting a limestone slurry to precipitate the sulfur impurities as calcium sulfate, but then load the calcium sulfate into an airplane and release it high above the cloud deck.

The sulfate would still migrate down and produce acid rain to approximately the same extent as if the flue gas had been emitted without desulfurization, but the effects of acid rain would be spread around the global rather than really acute effects localized near coal plants, maybe nobody will notice...
11:22 PM on 12/06/2010
The only geoengineering strategy that makes any sense to me in terms of being ecologically responsible and addressing the ancillary effects of carbon emission (e.g. ocean de-alkalinity) is biochar.

Basically, we have to significantly increase biomass production; improve the water-, nutrient-, and energy-efficiency of said biomass production; manufacture higher-quality foods and materials from lower-quality biomasses; dispose of organic wastes from agriculture, materials, and sewage by hydrous pyrolysis to yield biofuels, electricity, and biochar; and return the biochar to soil to sequester the excess carbon content of our biomass output and to close the mineral nutrient cycle.

This strategy addresses most of the environmental, ecological, and economical facets of resource management and waste management in the industrial paradigm, including climate change, renewable energy (in combination with solar and wind), and food production.
11:12 AM on 12/11/2010
We CAN significantly increase biomass:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dc9ZePu6WRg
01:05 AM on 12/12/2010
Yes, we could collocate greenhouses with biomass/biofuel electric generators to recycle the carbon dioxide emissions into new biomass.

But the end of that video is baloney. The effects of atmospheric CO2 on temperature and precipitation are at least as significant as the effects on photosynthetic efficiency.

Adding supplemental CO2 to a climate-controlled growing space will improve growth, but plants will grow just fine on ambient CO2. On the other hand, if the plants are subjected to high temperatures or insufficient water, they will not survive. Also, plants growing with supplemental CO2 will consume more water.
01:06 PM on 12/12/2010
Granted - CO2 is not the only factor that controls plant growth - nor is it the only factor that controls climate.

Alarmists only see one side... Take ocean 'acidity' for example: Increasing deep water upwelling drops the pH and can harm some ocean critters, but on the other hand it brings nutrients to the surface benefiting others...
10:56 PM on 12/06/2010
So now they're openly talking about the chemtrails.But we're supposed to pretend it's only an option ion the table and they haven't been spraying us with aluminum and barium and who knows what else nearly every day for over a decade?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K9rXydMmfw
10:31 PM on 12/06/2010
Just build a giant sponge to soak up the melting ice caps. Stick the water in a giant freezer and take it back to the arctic when it refreezes.
09:43 PM on 12/06/2010
Since a slew of scientists believe stratospheric sulfate seeding will actually accelerate ozone depletion, it would be nice if HP would address the potential negative severe side-effects of some of these suggestions.

What is the GOP position on geoengineering?
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
07:50 PM on 12/06/2010
While you're at it nsulate your houses and turn off your SUVs
07:49 PM on 12/06/2010
I guess that would be fighting fire with fire...but come on, rising CO2 levels don't just make the world hotter. There are lots of other disastrous consequences too, including the acidification of our oceans.
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Bogstomper2
A secular conservative
07:40 PM on 12/06/2010
"What happens if we discover we're on the precipice of a runaway greenhouse effect, and the only thing we can do is geoengineering?"

Not to any of my conservative compadres who might be reading: this is why he have to cut CO2 emissions, like nowish. The threat of a runaway greenhouse is not hypothetical. Warming in the Arctic regions is going to release more greenhouse gases. It's called positive feedback. At that point, we might have no other choice but to try some mega-engineering, and we risk screwing things up even more.

Ignoring that risk is not conservative. We're supposed to be sensitive to the unintended consequences of our actions. Pretending there's no risk is insane.
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Bogstomper2
A secular conservative
07:26 PM on 12/06/2010
"Just a few years ago, geoengineering was regarded as a fringe idea..."

Sorry to get snotty about a picky point, but these ideas have been around for a lot longer than a "few years," and only the woefully uninformed regarded them as "fringe."

Other than that, it's a good article, and you point out some of the serious technological and political obstacles we face. We need to start thinking about this sooner instead of later.