Assange Sex Crime Investigation: 'Sex By Surprise' At Heart Of Case

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The international manhunt for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in a sex-crime investigation in Sweden apparently stems from a condom malfunction.

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[the-lexicon]

12:43 PM on 12/12/2010

If occam's razor doesn't slice the rape charge to shreds in favor of "a trumped up charge to effect a political result", then I can't imagine any case where it does.

Hey, Governments!!!!! LISTEN UP. At least TRY to make your elimination of Assange SEEM credible.

[the-lexicon]

12:41 PM on 12/12/2010

I believe that if I was the swedish prosecutor that had to stand at a podium before the international press, and issue an international "red letter" arrest and extradition warrant in this case, I would resign on the spot.

The insult to the office of prosecutor is HUGE.

[ColdSnowMan]

10:08 PM on 12/09/2010

Reading the details in The Daily Mail, it seems it wasn't a conspiracy­, just two women who found out they had both seduced the same man repeatedly in the same 48 hour period.

Because of a broken condemn they went to the police station to see if Assange could be made to take an AIDS test.

The police woman who interviewe­d them wrote it up as a rape case.

The prosecutor rejected the case.

A lawyer who specialize­s in expanding the definition of rape took up the case.

The prosecutor reactivate­d the case, and there we are now.

This synopsis is based on what I read here: http://www­.dailymail­.co.uk/new­s/article-­1336846/Wi­kiLeaks-fo­under-Juli­an-Assange­-pictured-­Swedish-bl­onde-raped­-hours-lat­er.html

Sweden has a very broad definition of rape, with mild, standard and severe classes of rape in its law. So there is some chance Assange may be found guilty, even though after the alleged rapes, the women were still friendly with him and throwing parties for him. They were friendly right up until they found out they'd both seduced him.

[Frog in a pot]

11:47 AM on 12/09/2010

You can be prosecuted for rape in Sweden for not using a condom..its usually a fine.

Huffpo....
The strange tale of Assange's brief flings with two Swedish women during a three-day period in mid-August -- and decisions by three different prosecutors to first dismiss rape allegations made by the women and then re-open the case -- has more twists, turns and conspiracy theories than any of Stieg Larsson's best-sellers.

True, one of Assange's accusers sounds tailor-made for those who think Assange is being set up in Sweden by dark CIA-backed operatives who want him smeared or silenced for his document dumping with WikiLeaks. She's a 31-year-old blond academic and member of the Social Democratic Party who's known for her radical feminist views, once wrote a treatise on how to take revenge against men and was once thrown out of Cuba for subversive activities.

But others say Assange, who denies any wrongdoing and says the sex was consensual, may have just run afoul of Sweden's unusual rape laws, which are considered pro-feminist because of the consideration given issues of consent when it comes to sexual activity -- including even the issue of whether a condom was used.

Huffpo

[josephXY]

01:24 PM on 12/08/2010

btw. that story and the failure of many media outlets to report adequately, properly,
maybe so for malign reasons is likely to cost them dearly. That's a story where it is
really easy to get the media in a gotcha situation.
Site like this one might of interest for that occasion:
http://newspaperdeathwatch.com/

[topguide]

03:09 AM on 12/08/2010

"The international manhunt for WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in a sex-crime investigation in Sweden apparently stems from a condom malfunction."

Sweden's judiciary is now the worlds laughing stock. The amusing aspect of the entire episode is he had group sex with 2 women who are "devout christian" organizers of an event where he was the speaker.

[moraldesert]

08:55 AM on 12/08/2010

um, good thing you read the article.

[topguide]

10:57 AM on 12/08/2010

I'm sure you were there and now are in a position to lecture the world on what happened?

[Cambridge Delight]

02:03 AM on 12/08/2010

I had my doubts when Marianne Ny (the swedish prosecutor) dropped the charges intially, but now new information has appeared that these may be malicious allegations, and suggests the two women may have fabricated the entire rape/molestation allegations: http://rixstep.com/1/20101001,01.shtml

The above link alleges that the two female accusers sent tweets after the alleged rapes took place, indicating that they were having a wonderful time with Assange and enjoying his celebrity.

The main woman involved, someone called Anna Ardin, has also written a seven-step hate plan on how to get revenge on ex-boyfriends on her blog: http://annaardin.wordpress.com/2010/01/19/sjustegsmodell-for-laglig-hamnd/ (You need to translate from swedish to English)

Clearly, the tweets are more serious. The possibility is that Mr Assange is entirely innocent.

[Grimway]

07:57 AM on 12/08/2010

Possibility? This is not difficult.

[amazed by it all]

01:21 AM on 12/08/2010

The fact that this charge is trumped-up is as plain as the nose on W.C. Fields' face. I don't believe there is one bit of truth to it. It's unfortunate that the British are bringing him in on this.

[moraldesert]

11:25 AM on 12/08/2010

try reading the article.

[waldopepper]

11:20 PM on 12/07/2010

I can't for the life of me imagine how any prosecutor will obtain a conviction in this case. If it even gets that far. Even in the second woman's account. Imagine if you will for a moment her telling him to stop what he is doing because the condom became absent (fell off, was taken off, whatever). Wouldn't all he have to do is to claim that he never heard her telling him to stop? He could claim that the act was so passionate that he could not hear the call to stop. Loud bed spring or noisy duvet, whatever. Or he could claim that in fact she never did ask him to stop. And we would be left with a classic he said, she said situation. Reasonable doubt is therefor in abundance. Therefore, not guilty.

[aldebaranredstar]

12:43 AM on 12/08/2010

that would make sense in usa but not in sweden--no evidence is required!! only if the judge or jury find that the women's story is "believable." i kid you not.

[waldopepper]

03:27 AM on 12/08/2010

Interesting. What are the guidelines for a judge in such a case if the judge were to find both parties equally believable? This is what I meant when I wrote that it may well develop into a classic he said - she said case. Surely in that situation there could be no conviction.

[sfsoma]

10:20 AM on 12/08/2010

The Swedish government just wants him in their hands to give to USA. They will drag out investigation keeping Assange in prison until they get what they want from the US. If this happens I wonder how Australia will react.

[waldopepper]

11:57 AM on 12/09/2010

This smacks of a conspiracy theory. Because I try to base my thinking on evidence this notion does not hold a lot of water with me, despite the fact that the US would like to quench the leaks. If they did such a thing imagine the damage done to the US claim that is stand for something. There are limitations to power.

[ManuOB1]

10:27 PM on 12/07/2010

Gee, I wonder if he'll mind when all his personal records are made public.

[waldopepper]

11:24 PM on 12/07/2010

I am sure that as an individual, he may well be distressed. Who wouldn't be. However, the comparison between his personal information becoming public, and publicly owned (though confidential) information becoming public is not the same.

I realize you think you are being clever and perhaps even pithy. But your 'humor' does a disservice to the gravity and importance of the situation. What you clearly do not realize is that this is a first amendment case of monumental importance. YOUR future is at stake, and what your government allows you to say. There are much larger issues in play here.

[amazed by it all]

01:19 AM on 12/08/2010

F&F

[Dr Zyklon]

10:25 PM on 12/07/2010

This entire obscene, defamatory attack on Julian Assange (proxy for the even more sinister attack on WikiLeaks) has had a Kafkaesque quality from the beginning. Several days ago I commented on this case: "CONSENSUAL relationsh­ips, and a broken condom? Under Swedish law, this is now considered RAPE? This is MOLESTATIO­N? This is ABSURD."

I also cited an analysis on Red Keyhole:

Sex scandal concocted against WikiLeaks?
http://red­keyhole.wo­rdpress.co­m/2010/12/­01/sex-sca­ndal-conco­cted-again­st-wikilea­ks/

These latest revelations confirm this perspective in spades. Now we learn that the actual charge is something called "Sex by Surprise" (having dto do with an absent or broken condom in the context of CONSENSUAL sex. We also learn that at least one of the young women regrets the "rape" charge - yet now Assange is pilloried in America's mainstream media as a "rapist" and, by innuendo, a "child molester", "sexual predator", and other characterizations associated in the popular mentality with these hot-button terms.

Dr_Z

[shylove2]

08:39 PM on 12/07/2010

As we know anyone who is into sex and dominance probably figures sex for anyone but themselves is wrong... besides nowadays sexual torture and humiliation and sexual blackmail are and sexual rumors to defame and inflame are stock in trade for the spooks and kooks...

[kkdkdkdkdk]

07:41 PM on 12/07/2010

He should be put away for a long time and the celebrities that are aiding and abetting him should join him. Now he's threatening to unleash even more sensitive data. He's trying to hold blackmail the U.S. I hope they throw the book at him and his organization and the private who started all this stuff.

[Edward Standley]

09:37 PM on 12/07/2010

After reading the particulars,This affair could be very embarrassing for everyone involved except for, maybe, Assange IMO.

[topguide]

03:12 AM on 12/08/2010

anyone who thinks he should be "put away" for a broken condom needs to get their head checked.

[moraldesert]

11:29 AM on 12/08/2010

Thats not the allegation - the allegation is that the condom broke, the girl then told him to stop, and he didn't. So no one thinks he should be put away for a broken condom, it was his conduct after the condom broke that is an issue.

[greysells2]

07:35 PM on 12/07/2010

Never in my life have I had "sex by surprise". I always found it difficult to sleep throught it. Unless, the accuser is referring to the fact that she was "passed out" or had been administered the "so-called" date rape drug. However, the accuser have never made this claim.

Secondly, the second accuser accompanied the first accuser to the first police interview as her support person. The second accuser only complained after she heard the first person's complaint. Additionally, the second accuser is on the record as having a "revenge plan" prepared to use if scorned by a lover.

Depending on the specifics of Swedish law and any translation issues, this does not appear to be the strongest criminal complaint ever made. Especially, as the penalty upon conviction is a modest fine of around $750.00, more or less equivalent to a serious driving offense.