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Joe Biden To Do Damage Control With Democrats Over Tax Cut Plan

STEPHEN OHLEMACHER and CHARLES BABINGTON   12/ 7/10 08:35 PM ET   AP

Joe Biden Tax Cut Plan

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama struggled Tuesday to prevent wholesale defections by fellow Democrats that could sink the tax deal he worked out with Republicans – angry opposition that could subject millions of Americans to a big holiday-season tax increase.

Many GOP lawmakers seemed ready to embrace the Obama-GOP compromise and declare victory. The question was whether enough Democrats would join them in support, especially in the House, where liberal resentment of the president's concessions on tax breaks for the wealthiest runs strong.

Obama went on national TV to give a ringing defense of his compromise, declaring it the necessary price for heading off a tax increase that neither taxpayers nor the weak economy could stand and for gaining more months of unemployment payments for millions of jobless workers.

The compromise plan would extend unemployment benefits for millions of people, and reduce Social Security payroll taxes for a year. Workers would pay a 4.2 percent tax rate instead of 6.2 percent.

Democratic leaders in the House criticized the tax plan, sometimes harshly, but stopped short of saying they would try to block it.

In a 35-minute news conference, Obama chastised liberals for seeking ideological purity that would cause legislative logjams on vital issues. He didn't spare Republicans, either, likening them to "hostage takers" willing to hurt the great majority of Americans for the "holy grail" of extending tax cuts for millionaires.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was noncommittal before and after Obama's afternoon appearance, saying she would discuss the matter with fellow Democrats. "So far the response has not been very good," she said after meeting with other Democratic leaders.

Another House Democratic leader, Rep. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, said he couldn't recommend the package to his colleagues.

Obama said no one is entirely happy with the compromise he crafted with Republicans, but "it's a good deal for the American people."

"This country was founded on compromise," he said.

If Democrats kill the tax plan, it would mark a stunning defeat for Obama and a huge political bet that voters will blame Republicans as much as Democrats for an impasse that leads to higher taxes starting Jan. 1. Few on Capitol Hill believe Democrats will take that gamble. But liberal lawmakers' discontent is hard to measure in the wake of last month's big election setbacks.

Despite their minority status, Senate Republicans managed last week to block Obama's long-promised bid to end Bush-era tax cuts for households earning more than $250,000. They insisted that all the tax cuts from 2001 and 2003, scheduled to expire in three weeks, be extended, for rich and poor alike.

"I have not been able to budge them," Obama said. Without a compromise, he said, 2 million unemployed people "may not be able to pay their bills, and tens of millions of people who are struggling right now are suddenly going to see their paychecks smaller" because of income tax increases.

"I'm not here to play games with the American people or the health of the economy," he said.

Besides the most-publicized proposals, the plan would continue other programs such as enhanced tuition tax credits for college and breaks for businesses that hire new workers. And it would set the estate tax at a rate preferred by Republicans.

Under current law, the estate tax, which was repealed for 2010, is scheduled to return next year with a top rate of 55 percent. Obama's package would set the top rate at 35 percent, and each spouse could exempt up to $5 million from taxation.

Overall, officials said, the plan could increase federal borrowing by $900 billion.

The lower estate tax emerged as the biggest obstacle among many House Democrats. Pelosi called it "a bridge too far."

Unless both houses approve some version of the tax proposal before Congress adjourns this month, income taxes will rise for virtually all workers. Democrats hinted Tuesday they wanted a few more sweeteners to make the package less distasteful, but it wasn't clear what they might be.

"We're going to have to do some more work," Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said after a closed-door meeting with Vice President Joe Biden and other Democratic senators.

Many House Democrats emerged from a spirited closed-door caucus Tuesday evening and said they would have a difficult time supporting the package.

"I don't think that the president should count on Democratic votes to get this deal passed," said Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y. "It's a bad deal that wasn't skillfully negotiated."

Rep. Earl Pomeroy, D-N.D., said, "It seems to me this Congress should not be adding substantially to the deficit."

House Democrats will lose their majority in January, but they still hold a 255-179 advantage in the current Congress that has a few more days of life.

Democratic staff members speculated that, for now, more than half of House Democrats seem inclined to oppose the compromise plan. Republican aides said many GOP members probably would back it, because it grants their chief goal of extending income tax cuts for all Americans.

Some moderate Democratic lawmakers praised the plan. The office of Rep. Gerry Connolly, D-Va., noted that he long has supported "the position now embraced by President Obama for extending all of the Bush tax cuts, temporarily."

But some of Obama's closest allies assailed the compromise.

"It lards the tax cuts for the top 2 percent with an indefensible cut in the estate tax – giving yet another bonus to the super-rich," said AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka. "It is unconscionable that the price of support for struggling middle class families and workers who have been unable to find jobs for months and months and months is yet more giveaways for our country's wealthiest families."

The liberal group MoveOn said its 5 million members oppose the tax plan. "The president's commitment to bipartisanship should not mean leaving principles behind," MoveOn said.

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Associated Press writers David Espo, Julie Hirschfeld Davis, Ben Feller and Julie Pace contributed to this report.

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Bronxdude 02:05 PM on 12/07/2010
Let’s take a closer look at what the trickle-down theory—a redirection Trojan Horse used by republican elites to trick working class conservatives into supporting huge tax cuts for the wealthy, and infamously labeled by Bush 41 as “voodoo economics”—did to the economy under 8 years of Bush, Boehner, and McConnell. Under Bush, income for the top 2% rose by 255%, while income for the bottom 98% rose  Read More...
07:09 PM on 12/08/2010
Joe, I just learned in detail all that you did for the middle class of America, the unemployed of America, the economy of America, and the president...thank you.
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01:49 PM on 12/08/2010
Obama and his political-neophyte fans condescendingly call Liberals “purists.” “Politics is compromise" they say. We know that. FDR compromised. Kennedy compromised. LBJ compromised. God knows Clinton compromised. But (except for Clinton sometimes) they fought first.

Compromise is what you do, if you must, after you have made your absolute best effort to achieve the outcome that is right and best (dare I say pure?) according to your principals. You don't just cave when your opponent says "boo" and then whine that "he wasn't going to let me have anything better." You have to fight - to try to get the right outcome, and to preserve your credibility for the next contest. Premature capitulation loses not only this battle, but future battles before they begin.

McConnell’s deal was not the only possible alternative. If Obama had fought, other outcomes would have emerged. And if Obama had brought this deal to the Democrats with a split lip and a black eye after having stood his ground for even a day, they would probably swallow hard and support him. Instead, he and McConnell announced a fait accompli that stabbed the Dems in the back. He managed to convert a situation in which Republicans were being forced to be the bad guys into one in which principled Democrats now must join his capitulation, or be the bad guys themselves.

It's not the "compromise" that has people angry, it's the failure to fight. The back-stabbing and condescension are just added bonuses.
01:41 PM on 12/08/2010
I am a welder. I make around 35,000.00 a year. I would gladly pay more on my taxes to help balance the budget and I feel that the top 2% should have to pay more too. As for the creation of jobs by the rich, Where are the jobs?They have had the cuts for 10 years and jobs have steadily declined. It is time to stop the politicians from stepping on the working class.
12:39 PM on 12/08/2010
Almost every comment is about the wealthy and how wrong it is for the top 2% to get the tax breaks, and that the Bush tax cuts should expire, but I have not heard anybody talk about the what happens to bottom tax bracket when the Bush tax cuts expire. Well the bottom bracket of taxpayers will go from paying 10% to 15% if the Bush tax cuts expire...that's a 50% increase for the bottom bracket
06:06 AM on 12/08/2010
What!?

"This country was founded on compromise."

The States up and declared their independence when they didn't like Britain's policies. Where is the compromise in that?
12:29 PM on 12/08/2010
No compromise in that, but did you consider the compromise that must have happened when our founding fathers crafted the constitution? Or do you think all the founding fathers agreed on everything without compromise....Really?
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03:12 AM on 12/08/2010
His so called damage control will be a complete failure, just like Obama's presidency.
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12:48 AM on 12/08/2010
"Its better to die on your feet than to live on your knees."
— Emiliano Zapata
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12:33 AM on 12/08/2010
It is December 8th and jobless benefits have lapsed for eight days as of today. Some are down to their last, or last two benefits checks before they run out and cannot be extended. There are millions that could move to another tier, two more tiers, another tier and then state EB, a few two more tiers and then state EB, if the cutoff date is moved to Dec. of 2011. Otherwise they become penniless and likely homeless before the end of January. I've heard and seen the number 2 million several places several times.
 
Yes, this deal in a word sucks....under any other circumstance I would tell the GOP to put it where the sun doesn't shine. Unfortunately, they have a noose around the necks of 2 million plus of our jobless fellow Americans. If we hold our ground and let the breaks expire, so goes the jobless benefits...and with the GOP controlling the house in January, it will be a cold day in hell before the jobless ever see a penny more in help. If we hold our ground and the rates return to normal for the wealthy, do any of us think they'll be selling the furniture to pay the bills with? That 3.6% to the people we are talking about is but an inconvenience...a dissapointment at best. They will still have plenty for their Christmas and won't be much of anything they'll do without, tax break or not. Meanwhile, two million of our fellow Americans will suffer while those wealthy folks sit around the drawing room sipping egg nog, shrugging their shoulders and sighing, "Ah well, I guess buying the vinyard next year will be on hold for another couple of years...Anyone want another snort of cognac?"
 
In short, the people we are talking about being the beneficiaries of a tax break they don't need aren't going to the poor house if their little 3.6% discount expires...you can bet your lunch on that.
 
The jobless will be beyond the poor house...they'll be in the street and in the dumpsters picking for food within a month or so...you can bet your lunch on that, too.
 
The GOP will never give a dime after they take control of the house. They will never let a stand-alone bill for unemployment, much less a 13 month long extension, ever see the floor in the senate.
 
As bitter a pill as it may be, there is an old saying about weighing what you might lose by what you might gain. What do the wealthy "lose" of the tax cuts expire? Nothing...they suffer what amounts to a minor irritation. What do the jobless lose? The last lifeline they have to keep a roof over their heads and food on their tables.
 
03:43 AM on 12/08/2010
on the other hand, starving people don't have the luxury of taking disinterested quasi-liberal positions insulated from hardship and suffering. Been there. It might have been the catalyst for bringing America back. Look at England back in the 1980s, or the US following the end of the civil war.
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04:05 AM on 12/08/2010
True...But there is no reason in a society as full of plenty as we actually are to have anyone starve, freeze, be sick, go hungry or naked...or uneducated. As a society, there is a segment that realizes this and a segment that could care less how evolved our society is because they care only for themselves and what benefits them. It is sad that some see evolving our society to eliminate those blights upon it as an price they refuse to pay because they are insulated from the impacts of those blights. They see helping the entire society evolve as a whole to a level where all enjoy a higher quality of life as theft of their resources that must be protected and used only for the betterment of themselves and no one else. It provides them an advantage over others and that seems to be all that concerns them. That they have an advantage and they maintain that advantage by preventing others from the opportunity to improve their quality of life. They do not see, or refuse to see that a better quality of life for all in that society would benefit them greatly in many regards but for some reason, fear anyone that shares any form of equality with them insofar as advantage is concerned.
 
I'm afraid it may take the next two or three generations to have the intellect to see this and act upon it to advance our society to where it should rightfully be with all the resources it has at its disposal.
09:51 PM on 12/07/2010
Wouldn't a compromise be meeting in the middle, not just giving the GOP what they want?

Why can't we reduce the tax cuts for the wealthy instead of getting rid of them alltogether, or have them slowly go back up over time? Why must we choose between coke and pepsi?
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10:02 PM on 12/07/2010
The Senate proposed a bill Saturday that would exempt income up to $1 million from the tax cuts. The vote was 53-37 in favor. The measure failed because the Republicans filibustered it.

To have a compromise, you need two people willing to meet in the middle. The Republicans are not willing to do that. 

Why a 2 year extension? Because that takes the new expiration date into 2012, an election year. Think any politician is going to run on "raising taxes" then?

Obama had 100 options. He chose the absolute worst one.
09:13 PM on 12/07/2010
Well, once the Repubthugs control the house in 2011 and if President Obama continues his impossible pursuit of bipartisanship, it'll be time to head for the borders in 2016. Imagine the first videoclip showing the U.S. border patrol facing the other direction. Please President Obama, be the man I voted for, I'm begging you!!!
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10:06 PM on 12/07/2010
Afraid it's hopeless. I've given up on Obama. This is a compromise too far because it's not compromise, it's capitulation.
08:56 PM on 12/07/2010
Hey folks I do not like this deal and hostage taking either.However why don't you give Obama a rest for a few hours and really vent your feelings and anger against the republican domestic terrorists Boehner,McCain,Lieberman and McConnell for a change.Enough on Obama already!!

Since CNN,FOX and MSM have painted this deal as Obama's deal...why don't you spend the next few hours correcting them by letting them know we are in a hostage crisis situation.
09:58 PM on 12/07/2010
I think everyone is just angered that Obama campaigned like a lion and is just rolling over like a drunk puppy everytime the GOP says "HEEL"!! Why can't he just man up and meet them head-on? With most of America behind him, this really is a battle that he could win by a wide margin....
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10:09 PM on 12/07/2010
Everything you say is true.  I'm livid with the Pugs. Have been for a long, long time. Then, you expect a scorpion to behave like a scorpion. That's not news.  I did not expect the candidate I voted for in 2008 to turn in a taller version of George Bush. That is news.
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08:36 PM on 12/07/2010
-Obama said no one is entirely happy with the compromise he crafted with Republicans, but "it's a good deal for the American people."-

It's NOT a good deal to increase the deficit at the expense of the middle class and poor and for the benefit of the upper 2% of Americans. What planet does Obama live on? He just mortgaged MORE of our children's future.
07:33 PM on 12/07/2010
I'm going to come out and say it as others have on this thread: Biden is the gentleman I wanted for the presidency...he's brilliant in government, huge in heart, and he has fight of a campion. Joe is the nation's middle class and simply said as both sides of the aisle in the Senate always said, Biden has balz, and balz are needed against the GOP. The nation was taken by the Clinton and Obama show.

Biden was the only one in the war room with balz to point out our fail in Afghanistan...he offered the third option which everyone put down at the time but now agree with.

And Joe is told to clean up this dirt? He deserves a better role, a much better role.
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07:47 PM on 12/07/2010
Well put! F&F
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08:27 PM on 12/07/2010
You can pass along your thoughts to this effect at whitehouse.gov . I did just that. I also suggested to VP Biden that he plan to run against Obama for the presidential position. For your very reasons, Principia. Biden has a better grasp on reality, on war, and he's got the guts to stand up for his beliefs. He should not clean up Obama's mess under any circumstances.
06:54 PM on 12/07/2010
And I quote, "the plan could add $900 billion to the federal deficit." Exactly what the republicans campaigned against. Someone please point this out to McConnell and Boehner.
07:13 PM on 12/07/2010
They don't care about the deficit. They want their wealthy friend to have a "Jolly Holly Christmas". Oh by the way, can you guess who "Santa Claus" seems to be?
08:35 PM on 12/07/2010
That is why they want the President and congress to pass it while they are still in control of both houses. I can guarantee that by mid January of next year Boehner and McConnell will be out there complaining about how Obama added 900 Billion to the deficit as a tax and spender. Remember they have always blamed him for TARP even though TARP happened under Bush. That also is why Boehner is not committing all Republican votes to support the bill. They are trying to get their cuts and the victory and not leave finger prints.
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09:12 PM on 12/07/2010
Exactly...'not leave fingerprints'...they are masterful at this, and sadly we Dems and our President ...are not...

fanned and faved...
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06:43 PM on 12/07/2010
If Biden does Obama's dirty work and acts to do damage control, he won't change very many minds. It will only serve to damage Biden's reputation.
07:14 PM on 12/07/2010
You are right. Joe needs to get above this.
07:37 PM on 12/07/2010
Biden is loyal to the president and will remain so as long as he is VP...that is something that makes him different than almost 100% of politicians. His heart however is with our nation's middle class and is one of the few elected officials who means it when he says it.

This is a travisty that Biden is then the one who has to clean up this poor policy decision.