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DADT Hangs In Balance As Democrats Refine Their Pitch

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First Posted: 12/08/10 12:44 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats are set to take up a defense authorization bill that includes repeal of the military's controversial "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy Wednesday evening. But as the stage is being set for another dramatic showdown, uncertainty looms as to whether the 60 votes will be there to break a Republican filibuster.

As of Wednesday morning, the end game wasn't clear. There was, it appeared, at least 60 non-concrete pledges from Senators to back DADT repeal, with Arkansas Democrat Mark Pryor becoming the latest to reverse course and offer his support.

But while several Republicans signaled they informally support overturning the policy prohibiting gays from serving openly in the military, they have conditioned their support to procedural processes for passing the authorization bill as a whole. A lack of resolution to the debate over tax cuts and the budget, for instance, may provide a hook to oppose the defense legislation. As would a debate process that prohibited an arbitrary number of, or time for, amendments.

Whether those requirements will be met is truly up to the whims of those laying out the requirements. Early in the day, talks between Democratic leadership and Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) over procedural issues hit a snag, the Plum Line's Greg Sargent reported.

Shortly thereafter, however, Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn) put out a statement insisting that negotiations with Collins were proceeding in "good faith," followed by a tweet affirming that 60 votes were there to repeal DADT.

Whether the 60 votes are there to allow the defense authorization bill to come to the floor is, of course, a different question. A Republican leadership aide told NBC News that passage of the legislation "won't happen." A Democratic leadership aide, meanwhile, told the Huffington Post that it was "unclear" as of mid-day how the vote would play out.

Faced with the possibility of failure, both Democratic leadership on the Hill and administration officials have begun refining their pitch. Rather than view the defense authorization bill as, primarily, a vehicle to repeal DADT, supporters are pitching the other elements of the legislation that would prove helpful, if not vital, for armed forces.

The line was evident during an interview Lieberman did with Fox News on Tuesday, when the Connecticut Independent (and one of the chief proponents of overturning DADT) urged his colleagues to stay in session as long as it took to get the bill passed.

"I hope we can do that because it would be just outrageous if we don't pass the defense authorization and repeal 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell,' which is supported, I think, by a strong majority of members of the Senate, because people run the clock out," said Lieberman, "Incidentally, our troops will be working right through the end of the year and beyond because that's what they do for us. We owe it to them to pass this bill — which they need — which they need for benefits that they otherwise will not get."

A White House aide, meanwhile, passed along a fact sheet of the other critical elements that are contained in defense authorization, including (though not limited to) the following:

  • Authorizes a 1.4 percent across-the-board pay raise for all members of the uniformed services, consistent with the President's request.
  • Codifies the regulation issued by the Secretary of Defense to ensure that all senior mentors employed by DOD are hired as highly-qualified experts and are required to comply with all applicable Federal laws and regulations.
  • Authorizes TRICARE coverage for eligible dependents up to age 26.
  • Authorizes enrollment in DOD elementary and secondary schools for dependents of wounded, ill, or injured service members residing in temporary housing and service members in temporary housing due to a base housing privatization project, regardless of whether the housing is on Federal property.
  • Provides full funding (3.4 billion) for the Mine Resistant Ambush Protected Vehicle (MRAP) fund that funds the development, testing, production, and sustainment of the MRAP vehicles and new MRAP All Terrain Vehicles (known as the M-ATV).
  • Funds fully the President's budget request of9.8 billion for U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM).

If Congress fails to pass a defense authorization bill, it would not mean that these provisions were suddenly lost. Nor would it mean that the armed forces were suddenly put in under-funded danger. The money, as Travis Sharp, research associate at the Center for New American Security noted, would be there to keep operations going and the appropriations committee could pass a bill continuing that funding.

But it would also mark the first time in the last 48 years that defense authorization was not passed on time. And it would seriously refigure the balances of power in Congress -- in the process, endangering actually legislative policy, DADT included.

"As long as an appropriations bill passes - whether in the form of an individual defense appropriations bill, an omnibus, or a continuing resolution (CR) - the Pentagon will have funding," said Sharp. "But some of its activities may be limited without passing a defense authorization bill, which affects standing law and policy on important issues such as military end strength, pay, and benefits."

Asked for comment, a staffer to Armed Services Chairman Carl Levin (D-Mich.) said that the Senator's "focus right now is on passing the bill and this point we are not entertaining what other scenarios are."

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WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats are set to take up a defense authorization bill that includes repeal of the military's controversial "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy Wednesday evening. But as the st...
WASHINGTON — Senate Democrats are set to take up a defense authorization bill that includes repeal of the military's controversial "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy Wednesday evening. But as the st...
 
 
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Jdaddy1951
04:29 PM on 12/09/2010
Just heard that the Senate rejected it. They could only get 57 votes. I would like to know who voted against it, please.
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KenClay
REPEAL DOMA
10:04 AM on 12/09/2010
Just Called 25 More It Does Work .... They are taking a Tally! we Can't Put OUR Soldiers Lives In Jeopardy... REPEAL DADT NOW!
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Gay Pagan Man, Living Happily With Husband
01:58 PM on 12/09/2010
Fingers crossed...
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KenClay
REPEAL DOMA
10:02 AM on 12/09/2010
Keep The HOPE Alive!
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KenClay
REPEAL DOMA
10:02 AM on 12/09/2010
Please Call Your senator... I Beg You That Will Show our Strength!
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09:06 AM on 12/09/2010
So here is the deal, Rethugs will think about talking about this and several other issues. They will wind the clock down to the last few day of Dec and than go oh we don't have enough time for this so we can't accept it and that will be that. A forced lame duck
08:14 AM on 12/09/2010
It offends me no end to see our vets in rightful and peaceful protest being manhandled by the police. Where is the Obama who defended Gates against police intrusion? Isn't he watching this disgusting spectacle from the Oval Office windows?
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gwinegarden
She's an Arctic Wolf
07:45 AM on 12/09/2010
I predicted that DADT would never be repealed, especially, after November.

I would be very happy to be wrong.
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KenClay
REPEAL DOMA
07:21 AM on 12/09/2010
I Am Strong I Am Proud I am Committed I am GAY!
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1088
07:13 AM on 12/09/2010
Let the Republicans take care of this next year, for 31% of the gay an lesbian communities voted for the Republican party. Why should Dems do their bidding for them?
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Gay Pagan Man, Living Happily With Husband
12:37 PM on 12/09/2010
So blame the whole community for the Rethuglican victory, right? And I doubt 1/3 of us vote Rethug anyhow. I find it interesting that so many on here say our numbers are too small to bother about making sure our rights are protected and yet we are such a large force we could swing an election all by our little selves.
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KenClay
REPEAL DOMA
07:11 AM on 12/09/2010
Please My Loving Friends Lets Not Bicker... Lets Show ACTION .... Call Your Senator or Senators if you can Afford to and Tell Them Your Position With Conviction and Heartfelt Feelings... It Will Work ... We Must Stop this Discrimantory and Unequal law. We Must All Be First Class Citizens Fighting For the Country We love!
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KenClay
REPEAL DOMA
07:04 AM on 12/09/2010
I called over 35 Senators Yesterday and will Call more today! They Seemed to know I was CALLING About DADT Repeal... They are counting! Call with Conviction but not Anger ... I think it will work . I pray it Will... Thank You
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db08
Embrace each moment, each day!
07:01 AM on 12/09/2010
Rather than throwing a tantrum and blaming Obama (which let's us all off the hook), we need more visible protests and we need to bombard those who would vote against the repeal and those who are on the fence...public pressure where it counts. Obama is fighting for permanent through legislation not by presidential magic wand. That is how change happened in the civil rights movement for blacks and women....not by whining
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KenClay
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07:12 AM on 12/09/2010
I agree F&F KenClay
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toocoolfoschool1234
Stab your television. Get a guitar.
04:34 AM on 12/09/2010
I am sick of Obama and I will not vote for him in 2012. I don't care who runs against him, I will not vote for someone who is proven to be a failure. I'm not saying I will vote republican but I will not for this weakling again. I am hoping there is someone running as an independent.
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gwinegarden
She's an Arctic Wolf
07:46 AM on 12/09/2010
Vote for an independent, or just stay home. Same result.
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Ioan Lightoller
Proud Gay Pagan Man, Living Happily With Husband
12:39 PM on 12/09/2010
Oh, that's right. GLBT are getting very tired of being taken for granted and when we are ignored, blackmailed to vote Democratic. Well, some of us are sick and tired of being blackmailed. Maybe Obama and the Dems need to be aware of the power of our votes when cavalierly sloughing off the need to get things like DADT off the books.
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Michael Morrison
Proud Dad, Engineer, Aspring Geophysicist
01:35 AM on 12/09/2010
Good Gawd

Isn't there some other news out there?

I'm generally supportive of Gay rights, but this issue has been beaten to death.
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Jsolar
03:43 AM on 12/09/2010
So you're tired of reading about it...great.

How tired do you think the people who have to live with discrimination every day of their lives are?
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Ioan Lightoller
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04:27 PM on 12/09/2010
F&F.
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toocoolfoschool1234
Stab your television. Get a guitar.
04:36 AM on 12/09/2010
You might care more if you weren't allowed to get married to who you want or serve in the military while being honest about your life. The government is infringing on peoples constitutional rights, as usual, and you don't want to here about it anymore?
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Ioan Lightoller
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04:28 PM on 12/09/2010
Fanned and faved. Those who are tired of reading about almost any issue are generally not impacted by that issue.