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While Whacking Critics, Obama Gets Facts Wrong

First Posted: 12/08/10 05:07 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

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WASHINGTON -- While arguing at Tuesday's press conference that his progressive critics are being sanctimonious and overly pure, President Obama flatly misstated the history of the Social Security program and disregarded the central intent of the public health insurance option.

Both concerns were raised Wednesday by economics blogger and former Clinton Treasury official Brad DeLong.

At the press conference (see the transcript), Obama defended his controversial decision to give in to Republican demands for a massive tax cut for the rich on the grounds that "in order to get stuff done, we're going to compromise."

His prime example: "This is why FDR, when he started Social Security, it only affected widows and orphans. You did not qualify. And yet now it is something that really helps a lot of people."

As it happens, Obama said the same thing in October, in an interview with Comedy Central's Jon Stewart: "When Social Security was passed, it applied to widows and orphans and it was a very restricted program, and over time that structure that was built ended up developing into the most important social safety net that we have in our country." That did not go unnoticed in the blogosphere, either.

Obama's overall point -- that Social Security wasn't born fully grown -- was exactly right. But his facts were exactly wrong. The Social Security Act, as first signed into law by Franklin Delano Roosevelt in 1935, paid retirement benefits to the primary worker -- and not to their widows and orphans. It wasn't until a 1939 change that the law added benefits for survivors and for the retiree's spouse and children.

It's possible that Obama was confusing FDR's law with what some consider a precursor of sorts, the Civil War Pension program. That program, which dates back to 1862, provided benefits linked to disabilities incurred in the war and pensions for widows and orphans.

The White House press office chose not to address the issue.

Less objectively false, and yet more offensive to progressives, was Obama's dismissive remark about the hard-fought battle to establish a government-run insurance program as an option in case the private market failed to provide consumers with adequate and reasonably priced policies. Here's what Obama said about that:

[T]his notion that somehow we are willing to compromise too much reminds me of the debate that we had during health care. This is the public option debate all over again. So I pass a signature piece of legislation where we finally get health care for all Americans, something that Democrats had been fighting for for a hundred years, but because there was a provision in there that they didn't get that would have affected maybe a couple of million people, even though we got health insurance for 30 million people and the potential for lower premiums for 100 million people, that somehow that was a sign of weakness and compromise.

To support Obama's statement, an administration official pointed the Huffington Post toward a November 2009 Congressional Budget Office memo's conclusion that "Roughly one out of eight people purchasing coverage through the exchanges would enroll in the public plan, CBO estimates, meaning that total enrollment in that plan would be 3 million to 4 million."

But, Obama's fairly large rounding error aside, the public option was not simply a matter of enrollees. What the president conspicuously disregarded was that the central point of the public option was that its existence would exert enormous competitive pressure on the private insurance system. The goal was not to serve a particularly large number of people directly -- that would only happen if the private offerings were terribly inadequate. The goal was to keep the private sector honest. So no matter how many people it enrolled, "the provision," as Obama put it "would have affected" tens of millions.

There were also a few problems with the rhetorical structure of Obama's comments. If he truly believes that good things start small, like Social Security did, then criticizing the public option for starting small isn't logically consistent. And the tax cut he agreed to is hardly a half measure in the right direction; it's a colossal collapse in the wrong direction.


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Dan Froomkin is senior Washington correspondent for the Huffington Post. You can send him an e-mail, bookmark his page; subscribe to his RSS feed, follow him on Twitter, friend him on Facebook, and/or become a fan and get e-mail alerts when he writes.

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WASHINGTON -- While arguing at Tuesday's press conference that his progressive critics are being sanctimonious and overly pure, President Obama flatly misstated the history of the Social Security prog...
WASHINGTON -- While arguing at Tuesday's press conference that his progressive critics are being sanctimonious and overly pure, President Obama flatly misstated the history of the Social Security prog...
 
 
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GenosseJoe
11:20 PM on 12/10/2010
Obama lied?

Oh, no. What a shocker.
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billw8017
History looks like this
03:55 PM on 12/10/2010
Just out of curiosity, does anybody here remember the widow's benefit, aid to dependent children or disability? Some of this was augmented by local programs and means tested. Being means tested, some of it was very unpopular as means tested programs, being somewhat arbitrary and restricted, tend to be.
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Saje3d
Author, humorist, semi-professional wiseass.
05:22 AM on 12/10/2010
It appears that Obama's drive is to make peace with his enemies, and piss off his friends. Boy, does he have this whole politics thing backwards.
CommonSensePlease
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07:56 PM on 12/09/2010
Obama is more and more arrogant. He thinks that the majority of the Democrats are wrong but HE is right! He does not care about the Democratic Party. He care about the number of bills (good or bad) that he can signed as a sign of ACHIEVEMENT that will bring a second term.

He screws up the PUBLIC OPTION when Ralph Emmanuel leaked the the Public Option could be dropped and HSS Secretary Sebelius stated "the Public Option is not essentila"

He screws up his position with respect to the Bush's tax cut extension when Axelrod lstated that they will compromise whatever is necessary to get the middle class extension. Previously, Boehner was on record saying that it will vote for the middle-class tax cut extension if he could not get everything.

Obama does not know how to negotiate. Period.

Thus, the problem is of his making.
03:01 AM on 12/10/2010
Obama DOES know how to negotiate - for his secret agenda, which is right-wing all the way, baby. Obama is thoroughly devious about his agenda and who he works for, which is himself and himself only, and maximizing his power and plutocratic perks. In his mind, that means kowtowing to those with the power and big money - the corporate elite and Wall Street - and stepping all over those without it - the working and middle classes, the weak and the vulnerable(see his Deficit Commission; Obama is hellbent on destroying Social Security ... not to mention America), whom he feels contempt for and whom he only acknowledges during the campaign season, when he manipulates them with a totally phony marketing/PR heroic and semi-diving"image" totally at odds with the reality of his corrupt, unprincipled self.
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MalleusMaleficarum
Global nomad.
07:04 PM on 12/09/2010
Obama has been far too dismissive of the progressive base, and he appears to feel far more comfortable representing the Blue Dog caucus -- a tiny piece of rapidly shrinking political geography that leaves little room for a Democratic president.
CommonSensePlease
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07:58 PM on 12/09/2010
I agree 100%
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General Armchair
What, me worry?
10:28 PM on 12/09/2010
And we thought the problem was Rahm. Crap, looks like it was Obama all along :(
06:37 PM on 12/09/2010
Dan, try if you might but you're not worthy to carry the man's jockstrap.
05:21 PM on 12/09/2010
Let me tell you something, Mr. President, about America that you do not already know (I’m in a position to do this because I’m a Canadian). Nobody cares about reaching across the aisle. The reason there’s an aisle in the first place is to keep the two sides apart, genius. Americans hate each other’s guts. That’s why there are 50 states and not 3 provinces. And many of your fellow Americans hate you, Mr. President, because of things you can’t help. Like the color of your skin and your Islamic-sounding name. But despite how ignorant these hillbillies are, they’d actually respect you if you would only tell them to go f*ck themselves more often. But instead, you keep compromising and giving in, over and over. And it’s not helping. In fact, it’s downright un-American. It’s Canadian. So unless you’re planning a move North, start giving the middle-figure salute for a change. It’s something every American can understand. Because the only thing they hate more than progress, or change, or their own financial and moral poverty... is weakness. You really do have a good heart, Mr. President. Now you just need the guts.
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tpk
having a sense of humor is priceless
05:49 PM on 12/09/2010
What Mr President need is 60 votes in the senate to pass any laws, not guts. This is how it works in America, unfortunately.
07:20 PM on 12/09/2010
Bush's tax giveaway to billionaires was NOT enacted with a 60 vote majority, but in fact was a scumbaggery reconciliation thing with 50 votes. That's why it's a ten year program and not permanent. Obama and Congress could redo the exact same thing NOW, cut middle class taxes while letting Bush's skulduggery lapse. But HE'S a millionaire now.

Sucks to be poor in America. We have NO representation. At all.
07:25 PM on 12/09/2010
WOW.............sooooooooo sool
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watcherreader
online super hero
05:12 PM on 12/09/2010
Another flimsy and weak point by the Obama hater Dan Froomkin. His last effort pointed out that the president's pardon of the thanksgiving turkey was a human rights violation because he had yet to pardon any convicted criminals.

Dan, we all know that this is about President Obama's and Hillary's treatment of Netanyahu. You have know experience in paper print media and you got canned from the Washington Post. I see why.
07:25 PM on 12/09/2010
and I can see why you're a bot..
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watcherreader
online super hero
07:36 PM on 12/09/2010
you wish I was a bot (whatever that is). I struck a nerve
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justalurker
edited my micro-bio
12:32 AM on 12/10/2010
Bashbot. New sock?
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PalaceOfWisdom
Want gun control? End the MIC
05:03 PM on 12/09/2010
Well said, sir. It is the duty of every American to debunk the backpedaling we will see in the coming days and expose this charade for what it is: the further selling off of America to a handful of well connected "businessmen".
04:49 PM on 12/09/2010
You cannot echo in history, if you don't learn your own history well. That is why these gaffes of Obama are important and consequential at a time in which he is severely weakened and appears to jump ship from his own policies. Stay the course, Mr. President.
04:46 PM on 12/09/2010
If you think GOOPers will never vote for Dem policies-- some of them will, if YOU CORNER THEM. The GOPers got the 2010 election on a number of lies they effectivel­y sold to the American public. The whackiest results were from MI and PA- states with sizable Dem majorities in registered voters and HUGE unemployme­nt. But, the GOP sold their treacle well. In the 2 years before, Dems didn't sell their story well, which is not a treacle. They didn't fight hard enough. If enough Americans all across the US had been bought into Obama's policies, few GOOPers would dare cross him. The president gets the biggest podium in the country. This one is just not using the power of the presidency adequately­. I said, if he had fought hard enough, there are a number of GOOPers who will cave... remember how Obama took NC, IN and VA? He himself has done it before, for crying out loud.
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tpk
having a sense of humor is priceless
05:58 PM on 12/09/2010
Two republican senators just vote 'no' on repealing DADT after they promised to vote 'yes' only yesterday. Go ahead corner them and make them change their votes.
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Cleverboots
04:39 PM on 12/09/2010
Reply toMWSomerset- Thanks again for responding! I sincerely hope you are correct.
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newtom
eschew obfuscation
03:35 PM on 12/09/2010
He said something wrong? He made a mistake? Oh no!!!!!!!! He's only human.

The severity of this revelation will bring an end to the world as we know it.
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JimR
03:41 PM on 12/09/2010
I think the point that Froomkin wants us to take away from this is that progressives are special people who should be praised and mollified at every opportunity.
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newtom
eschew obfuscation
04:12 PM on 12/09/2010
Who's progressive?
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PalaceOfWisdom
Want gun control? End the MIC
05:13 PM on 12/09/2010
I can't speak for the group, but I'd be reasonably happy if Obama just stopped actively reversing himself on every position and feigning reluctance as he gives the GOP everything he, I mean they, want.

This really is the public option all over again. Legislation started as being for the people, but ended up strengthening Corporate America instead.
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tpk
having a sense of humor is priceless
03:49 PM on 12/09/2010
I am calling Beck to buy his food delivery insurance
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BocaMom
03:14 PM on 12/09/2010
Why should begin telling the facts now?
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03:04 PM on 12/09/2010
Good work, Brad DeLong!!! And, yes! Obama lies. On Monday, he said he was going to extend unemployment for 2.5 million Americans for 13 months.

He is NOT extending the weeks at all.
He is moving the cut-off to 12/2011.

Only those who started benefits at the end of May 2010 will gain 13 more months. Everyone else will receives less. Everyone who has exhausted benefits, all 4.5M of them, plus everyone in the last Tier, will receive NOTHING!!!
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CherokeeGirl
one pissed off Indian.
03:10 PM on 12/09/2010
even the big BP 20 billion thing was for the benefit of BP, not the victims. He's a big CON.

also, the unemployment argument is bunk, they would have HAD to pass those anyway.

don't buy it.
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tpk
having a sense of humor is priceless
03:50 PM on 12/09/2010
Obviously knowing facts is not important to you.
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Lee Marshall
is evil in the same way The Addams Family is evil.
01:20 AM on 12/10/2010
Sorry, but unemployment extensions have not passed yet, and I doubt thr