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White House Privately Pushing Data Showing Bush Tax Cut Extension Politically Popular

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First Posted: 12/08/10 10:43 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:15 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- Hoping to build support for the tax-cut deal that the president reached with Congressional Republicans, the White House has begun pressing Hill Democrats with polling data showing that extending the tax rates for the rich is politically popular.

A Senate aide sent over a copy of the email that an administration aide sent to offices on Wednesday morning. In it, the aide touts Gallup polling data showing that "Two-thirds of Americans (66%) favor extending the 2001/2003 tax cuts for all Americans for two years, and an identical number support extending unemployment benefits for the long-term unemployed."

That an administration would promote polling data backing its policy preferences is normally not an astounding revelation. But the private push of the Gallup study struck the Senate aide as depressing if not counter-productive. Even as the president was insisting that he thought an extension of rates for the wealthy is poor economics -- "I'm as opposed to the high-end tax cuts today as I've been for years," Obama said on Tuesday -- his aides were privately embracing the idea that extending the Bush tax cuts across the board was politically prudent.

"We are making the argument for them," said the Senate aide, who sent over the email on condition that it could not be reprinted. "The White House now wants us to defend extending the Bush tax cuts."

The White House wasn't the only party apparatus trying to disseminate the Gallup poll findings. On Wednesday morning, Don Stewart, the spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY), also sent around the findings, pointing out that a "slight majority of Democrats, as well as most independents and Republicans, would vote for a two-year extension of the tax cuts passed in 2001 and 2003."

If the fraying of relations between the White House and congressional Democrats wasn't apparent enough, an "administration official" was quoted in Politico late Tuesday evening relaying that Obama was so dispirited with his party's leadership that he felt compelled to place his faith in direct talks with McConnell instead.

An administration ally, responding to complaints that Congressional Democrats were making about the contours of the tax-cut deal, went even further, suggesting his own party was assuming the role of hostage-takers -- the moniker Obama applied to Republicans during his Tuesday press conference.

"[A]re congressional Democrats going to hold emergency unemployment aid, new tax cuts for the middle class and the working poor, as well as the existing expiring middle class tax cuts that would affect hundreds of millions hostage because they want to take away tax cuts from a small group of rich people?" the ally emailed The Huffington Post. "Progressives need to stop, see through their frustration at process issues, and think about what they are fighting for and against here."

On Wednesday, Vice President Joseph Biden is set to return to the Hill to attempt to defuse tensions with Congressional Democrats.

For what it's worth, the polling numbers themselves are not as clear as the White House or McConnell's office would like others to believe. While Gallup clearly showed that passing the president's tax-cut deal wouldn't cause a public backlash, it didn't measure the popularity of different proposals.

When you present respondents with other prospective resolutions of the tax-cut debate (which may now be moot because a deal is close to being finalized), extending the rates for the wealthy remains widely unpopular. A Bloomberg News poll also released on Wednesday morning, for instance, showed the following:

The survey, conducted before, during and after the tax negotiations, shows that only a third (35%) support keeping the lower rates for the highest earners, and less than half of those respondents (16%) say the breaks for the wealthy should last for a shorter period than cuts for the middle class. Overall, two-thirds (69%) of those polled favor a permanent extension of the lower rates for the middle class.

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Hillbilly49 10:52 AM on 12/08/2010
In 2001, using reconciliation, the Bush administration enacted a series of “tax relief” initiatives that were set to expire by the last day in 2010. The peculiar expiration caveat was actually a loophole designed to understate the headline costs of the program to dampen the bill’s controversy.

This fall, Congress will face the contentious issue over whether or not to extend the Bush tax cuts.  Read More...
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Chris Moltisanti
07:18 PM on 12/10/2010
Obama said two weeks ago that Americans do NOT want this. Then he caves and the white house releases this statement of propaganda.
http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/bloomberg-poll-americans-dont-want-to-extend-tax-cuts-for-wealthy.php
Thats a link to several major polls that all say the opposite of what the white house is saying. Obama himself said the opposite until he changed his position for some reason. How can the government continue to lie to the American people the way they do? Its an obvious plutocracy and the American people need to realize that, get educated to what's going on and act.
I guess they just surveyed the top 1%...unfortunately they other 99% is getting screwed...

(By the way, they are trying to quietly slip it past the American People by asking them if they want "Their own taxes to go up"...meaning that they are posing the question saying that if we eliminate tax cuts for wealthy we are going to eliminate them for the working class too. So the loaded question then becomes "Would you like YOUR taxes to go up???" But Americans are too smart to fall for that...aren't they???)

more - stateofsleep.blogspot.com
barrada nicto
Optimism is necessary.
12:08 AM on 12/10/2010
This issue, the Public Option, and a few others are beginning to cause me to ask: who's side is Obama on?

Did the Bush wiretaps get dirt on Obama that make this level of blackmail possible? Or is Obama just too reserved to operate in D.C. politics?
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ChasG
Unborn, unchanging, undying Universe
03:54 PM on 12/09/2010
Without compromise­­, a single person making $40,000 in wages will pay $100 a month more income and payroll taxes than he/she would with a compromise including the payroll tax credit.
 
Here's an easy calculator provided by the Tax Foundation­­, a nonpartisa­­n tax research group in Washington­­, DC.
 
http://www­­.mytaxbur­d­en.org/
 
Try it out on yourself and then tell me you prefer paying higher taxes right now. 
 
Actually, I would have been happy paying my extra $100 a month until the UI extension was at stake, and we know GOP would have blocked UI extension had it been proposed on its own merits.  I happy that the extension did not give GOP what they really want-- PERMANENT tax cuts.  They expire in two years, immediately following the 2012 elections, unless congress and the president all agree on something different.  Dems will still have the White House and a slim majority in the Senate (that could be broken by Lieberman and blue dogs, but the remaining Dems could filibuster).  This was smart politics by Obama because it guarantees that tax cuts for the wealthy will be a campaign issue in 2012.
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GoodNewsDay
11:17 AM on 12/09/2010
54 House Democrats oppose Obama tax package!

Fifty-four House Democrats are opposing President Barack Obama's tax deal with Republican lawmakers in a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

The lawmakers, led by Rep. Peter Welch of Vermont, said Thursday they are against "acceding to Republican demands to extend the Bush tax cuts to millionaires and billionaires."

They said the package adds too much to the budget deficit and is tilted too much in favor of the wealthy. Obama has argued that he had to agree to extend tax cuts for the wealthy to protect middle-income taxpayers from a big tax increase next year.

The 54 Democrats, by themselves, would not be enough to block the package in the House, depending on how much support it gets from Republicans.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/feedarticle/9399375
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ChasG
Unborn, unchanging, undying Universe
03:48 PM on 12/09/2010
The number, 54 Democrats, is close to if not slightly larger than the entire Progressive Caucus in the Democratic party.  Sounds like they are singing to the choir.
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Jim Welke
10:29 AM on 12/09/2010
Welfare for Rich People

Wow, the hits keep coming. The Obama Administration seems to get nothing right. Who is President Obama taking advice from, Mitch McConnell? Their decision to extend the Bush tax cuts is nuts. Nuts! We’re gonna take on more debt in order to save rich people, millionaires, like $10,000 a year. And then, working schmucks will be paying for years -- diverting money from better uses -- to finance that debt. This is insane.

more: http://completelybaked.blogspot.com/2010/12/welfare-for-rich-people.html
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jsrl317
Persuade me or prove me wrong, and I will change
11:20 AM on 12/09/2010
F&F!
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HarlowGal1960
activists are made, not born
02:01 PM on 12/09/2010
me too :)
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JustJoy7
Give your best, expect the best from others.
08:53 AM on 12/09/2010
One thing for sure, the DEM leadership is doing a fantastic job of banking all kinds of talking points for rethugs to use against us in the next election. Why the heck can't they go behind closed doors, rant, rave, bash their heads against the walls, or whatever, and when a mike is stuck in their faces, learn how to respond without further damaging the party for future elections. They are just handing over 2012 to the thugs on a silver platter.

Stop the president bashing on all these shows. Stop talking in absolutes and leave room to vote on this bill without someone saying you are a flip flopper. Geez, DEMS Get a grip and try to think beyond this one bill.
08:29 AM on 12/09/2010
s@rew Obama. One term was too much.
08:44 AM on 12/09/2010
too funny
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Helzapoppin
Don't Piss Down My Back And Tell Me It's Raining.
07:37 AM on 12/09/2010
This administration has lost its collective mind. Obama would swap 2 $1 bills for a fiver and think he came out ahead.
07:30 AM on 12/09/2010
Perhaps someone said this in the previous 4,443 posts, but just to remind everyone, the Gallop poll being cited only had two choices: 1) no tax cuts; 2) tax cuts for everyone.

Previous polls, including those from Gallop asked 3 questions: 1) no tax cuts; 2) tax cuts for everyone; 3) tax cuts only for those making under $250,000.

Previous polls, replicated by many different polling organizations, all showed that the public overwhelmingly supported option #3.

So the poll being cited by the White House achieves the desired outcome through selective omission of the most relevant option.
08:46 AM on 12/09/2010
and this poll was not limited to voters.........therefore meaningless
08:51 AM on 12/09/2010
Increasingly, the WH is resorting to incoherence. All of a sudden, if this deal does't get passed as-is, according to Summers, there will be another recession right around the corner. How convenient. The deal wasn't just a bitter pill for the president to swallow, it turns out it will also avert another recession.
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Muzzle Me
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07:22 AM on 12/09/2010
Never let it be said I'm not thinking about my peeps here. Just read this article on another site. It's one thing not having a job, which I haven't had one since January 2008, but just got hired. I feel blessed, yet, I want to pass this on to all who are still searching and/or are even on a job. Remember back in the day when taking a "mental health day", ie. using sick time to do that? Well, not any more. Not only are employers not hiring but those employees that are working have to sometimes do the work for 2 or even 3 employees. So, now a new cottage industry has opened up (hey, might be a new source of employment­! This particular field of work pays $75/hour!!­) whereby employers are spying on employees who call in sick! Yep, employers are hiring detectives­, off-duty cops or anyone who has a knack for that sort of thing. It's lawful because it falls undeer reasonable suspicion. Hurrah, not! Sick-day bounty hunters. Oh, yes, your employer issued cell phone? The employers are providing them so they track an employees whereabout­s Via the GPS contained therein. And, there is also a thing called li@r cards to tell whether one is ly@ng which uses voice analysis to determine if an employee is being dishonest when calling in sick.

http://fin­ance.yahoo­.com/caree­r-work/art­icle/11152­9/sick-day­-bounty-hu­nters?mod=­career-wor­klife_bala­nce
08:56 AM on 12/09/2010
of course.......many employers use thermal cameras linked to their computer........it is pretty funny how a lie changes your eye sockets.......it is not 100% but you can make some decisions based on it with some people........if you think the person is telling a lie this just confirms it
07:10 AM on 12/09/2010
Ridiculus, first he says he's against it but had no choice, now it's all of a sudden a great and wonderful thing to do ... flip flopping on the flip flop.
I honestly can't wait to see what happens next with this man, it's like watching a guy get busted doing his secretary by his wife and trying to squirm his way out of it.
06:15 AM on 12/09/2010
I think Mr "O" needs to sneak back to Afghanistan. His Opium/Hash high is wearing off and he is getting agitated too easily.
llyd wlsh
bio hazard
06:28 AM on 12/09/2010
he is a little snippy isn't he. Who was it that said, "If you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen". Mr. President you asked for this job, now you've got it, Either man up or sit down and let the big boys play. We're your bosses and you have about 300 mollopn of us and if we think you're f***ing up we're going to tell you. You don't like it, there's the door!
llyd wlsh
bio hazard
06:30 AM on 12/09/2010
"million" not "mollopn"
llyd wlsh
bio hazard
06:08 AM on 12/09/2010
"I'm as opposed to the high-end tax cuts today as I've been for years," Obama said......apparently The President hasn't been opposed to the high-end tax cuts.
07:38 AM on 12/09/2010
Someone needs to remind Obama that the measure of one's feelings is one's actions. Period. You either oppose or you do not. Of course petty facts like this don't seem to get by Obama's fetish for 'compromise'.
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Ohioliberal
The Steelers and Mopar cars
05:49 AM on 12/09/2010
I don't believe finally showing some backbone and resolve against his own base is hardly my definition of political leadership. Show some cajone's against the GOP for once and you will get my attention.
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KatieHW
04:56 AM on 12/09/2010
It's not the Progressives who need to "stop" and "think about what they are fighting for and against here." I think the Administration needs to do that, and think about who got them to the White House in the first place. And skewing the polling numbers by asking broad rather than specific questions about support for extending the tax cuts to the wealthy doesn't fool anyone. Thinking it would is insulting.
05:42 AM on 12/09/2010
Yes let's think about who put Obama in the White House. It certainly was not wealthy progressive Democrats who would play politics with real peoples lives. Two more years of wealthy people getting tax cuts is a small price to pay for millions of Americans having the resources to feed their famalies and look for jobs another day. You silver spoon Democrats are the same as Republicans and maybe worse because you have the opportunity to get behind a compassionate, listening President whose whole cause is the middle class and less fortunate.
llyd wlsh
bio hazard
06:12 AM on 12/09/2010
You must have drank the kool-aid
07:40 AM on 12/09/2010
I'm poor. And most of the people I know are fairly low income. None of us support Obama's nonsense on taxes. And the amount of money that will be lost is not a 'small price to pay'.