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Howard Dean On Tax Deal: 'A Short-Term Washington Fix' Filled With Easy Promises

First Posted: 12/12/10 11:31 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

Howard Dean Tax Cuts

WASHINGTON -- One of the more noteworthy parts of the fallout over the debate on the Bush tax cuts is the opening it has given for progressives to grab the mantle of deficit hawkish-ness and fiscal responsibility.

Getting the nation's budget in order has always been viewed by liberal-minded economists as a bit of political gimmickry -- the type of feel-good line Republicans make with an eye on the ballot boxes, not job reports. But now, as a $900 billion agreement between the president and the GOP is set to be reached on expiring tax cuts, progressives have begun making a similar pitch.

"This is a short-term Washington fix," former DNC header Howard Dean declared on CBS's "Face the Nation." "It does nothing about this biggest long-term threat to America, which is the deficit. I don't hear Republicans or Democrats talking about the deficit. There is no pain in this agreement. This is the easy way out for everybody, much as everybody is complaining, hooting and hollering, this is an inside-the-beltway fuss and somebody needs to do something about the long-term problems to this country. It is not in this bill."

"The thing that bothers me about it is we have yet to deal with the biggest problem that is facing this country, which is the size of the deficit, and nobody is doing anything about it," the former Vermont Governor added later. "It is easy to promise everybody tax cuts all the time. You have got to make some cuts if you are going to do that."

Appearing on "Meet the Press," the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers, Austan Goolsbee, was pressed on precisely these critiques and fell back on the tax deal's stimulative aspects.

"You cannot reduce the deficit if the economy is not growing, period," he said. "We should not be conflating medium-run deficit reduction with short-run getting out of recession and getting our economy growing."

What piqued Dean in particular, however, was a provision in the "framework" that provides a one-year, two-percent payroll tax holiday that, critics say, could end up siphoning money from the Social Security Trust Fund. The nation's largest senior-issues lobbying organization, the AARP, said it was comfortable with the provision -- confident that it won't be extended down the road.

But appearing alongside Dean on CBS, Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY), another critic of the president's tax deal, made the case that a Democratic president had just brought the retirement program squarely into the deficit debate.

"Governor Dean is entirely right about the long-term risk to Social Security here," said Nadler. "Now this one time, $120 billion tax cut in social security taxes will be paid for out of the general fund. But that, for the first time, starts getting the general fund to subsidize social security for $120 billion a year, and brings Social Security into the deficit debate, which greatly undercuts the political support to avoid eviscerating Social Security a few years down the road."

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WASHINGTON -- One of the more noteworthy parts of the fallout over the debate on the Bush tax cuts is the opening it has given for progressives to grab the mantle of deficit hawkish-ness and fiscal re...
WASHINGTON -- One of the more noteworthy parts of the fallout over the debate on the Bush tax cuts is the opening it has given for progressives to grab the mantle of deficit hawkish-ness and fiscal re...
 
 
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Dunkleberger Karl
Historian,Humanitarian,Hedonist.
04:31 PM on 01/04/2011
When you pick up a rock , you may find the evil asunder is pointing @ a friend!
Mr Izza will not investigate Iraq or Afganastan , only fannie and freddie! maybe! 
 
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Coyote1177
11:50 PM on 12/14/2010
Tea Partiers only support low pay jobs, not ones that actually pay people more,cuz they want everythiing cheap, all the salary for themselves and no taxes,
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Coyote1177
11:41 PM on 12/14/2010
Two choices pay taxes and have Social Security or not, sorry can't have it both ways .
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Coyote1177
11:40 PM on 12/14/2010
Saw the budget did the math, you reap what you sow.
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Coyote1177
11:39 PM on 12/14/2010
For all the stubborn senoir tea party supporters, it is your paycheck on the chopping block.
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Dunkleberger Karl
Historian,Humanitarian,Hedonist.
04:32 PM on 01/04/2011
But they bought us breakfaste and promised us dinner!
of course we got on the bus!
TruepatriotinRI
My micro-bio may be empty, but my macro-bio is not
12:13 PM on 12/14/2010
Fact of the matter is, we don't need Dean, nor Sanders, nor Grayson, et. al. We need Robespierre!
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Dunkleberger Karl
Historian,Humanitarian,Hedonist.
08:46 AM on 12/14/2010
Better than Obama? the list is Growing by his indesisive movements,
Unparelleled but by his unexsplainable inability to dance?perhaps
the sybio,inside his liver, has 16 left feet?
08:46 AM on 12/14/2010
So let me get this straight. The Republicans are OK with not increasing tax cuts on the rich because it's OK to continue to drain our deficit in order to create jobs. Because raising taxes on them would impact the whole trickle down theory thingy on job creation. But, they were against bailing out GM and Chrysler because we couldn't afford to save those jobs. There was no money to do it. Even though the auto bailout had a direct tangible job loss impact. Not some mysterious trickle down. Why is this fact not being discussed in the MSM?
barrada nicto
Optimism is necessary.
03:31 AM on 12/15/2010
No one said the Republican narrative ever needed to make sense.

We have no way to counter the Republican lie machine. It's one of the most important forces at work for the last few decades. But we've never focussed on it long enough to find an antidote. We just keep lamenting how 'wrong' they are.
RTIII
Poster of over 0.0135% of all HufPost comments
08:24 PM on 12/17/2010
There is an antidote, but it only works one person at a time; stop turning on the TV.

(I don't even have one.)
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splashy
Really?!?!!!
02:56 AM on 12/14/2010
So, where are the baggers that said "hands off my Social Security" a while back?

Crickets.....
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MrBadger
01:35 AM on 12/14/2010
Howard, where are you? We need you now.
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Dunkleberger Karl
Historian,Humanitarian,Hedonist.
08:52 AM on 12/14/2010
(The Monster,"steppinwolf")America , where are you now?
We cant stand alone against the monster,
Dont you care about your sons and Daughters?
10:59 PM on 12/13/2010
The AARP are the same wonderful folks who helped push through Medicare-D, that overpriced prescription drug deal that denied our government the right to negotiate drug prices and helped to further enrich the pharmaceutical industry. The long slide to privatizing Social Security begins with this dreadful legislation. Robert Reich says "they are all honorable men (Obama and Clinton) but have been deluded by the rich and powerful, or by Wall Street." I hope he is being sardonic. This tax bill is the worst giveaway I have seen by our "giveaway president." Compromise as a starting point is not compromise but capitulation.
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12:22 AM on 12/14/2010
neither compromise nor capitualtion, but collusion
dessertsfirst
because life is too short!!
12:50 AM on 12/14/2010
Exactly, and as soon as Medicare started paying for Rx drugs, suddenly the prices on all the meds went up from what we used to pay.... funny how that works!! And who pays the medicare bills???? why, we the people, of course.

The American taxpayer has been treated like the goose that laid the golden eggs, until "they" got greedy and k.i.l.l.e.d the goose! It won't be long before the middle class is virtually non-existent at the rate we are going.
10:06 PM on 12/13/2010
I'm listening to Lawrence O'Donnell giving airtime for Gibbs, I have to change the channel. Lawrence O'Donnell sold his soul for MSNBC faster than Chucky Todd did.
10:18 PM on 12/13/2010
So, only people who your share view can be on O'Donnell show. You are no better than the teabagger that is zombie of fox news.
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09:56 PM on 12/13/2010
Vintage Dean !!!!!!!!!!

http://www.cnbc.com/id/15840232?play=1&video=1606766425
10:06 PM on 12/13/2010
That why he is not president.
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09:46 PM on 12/13/2010
RUN HOWARD RUN !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
08:52 PM on 12/13/2010
One good thing brought about by the spectacle that liberals and progressiv es have made over this compromise is that it shines a light on the true nature of their ideology. The progressiv e platform is predicated entirely on hate and class warfare. Instead of being happy over the goodie bag of give-aways compromise d over, they focus on the 1/6 of the package that goes to rich people. It's time to grow up, libbies, and try to create a platform that isn't entirely a "soak the rich" scheme. Well what happens when the rich just drop out, retire, move out of the country, stop producing, etc?? Well there is no backup plan, the plan will probably be to lower the bar for what rich is, and keep plugging away at class warfare.
09:27 PM on 12/13/2010
Ok we all know you are a Stepford Wife but it's nothing to brag about.
09:37 PM on 12/13/2010
So is that like a robot joke? Anyone who has a different opinion than you must have been brainwashed? It's humbling to realize how few people think just like you do. And that cuts both ways. But I don't shy away from a robust debate, I actually enjoy it a lot. It makes you sharper, and maybe even you can learn something.
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12:24 AM on 12/14/2010
why do you think the rich should carry smaller tax rates than the poor and middle class?