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Parents Of Los Angeles Gang Kids Head To Class At Court's Order

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THOMAS WATKINS   12/12/10 04:21 PM ET   AP

LOS ANGELES — It's a Saturday morning and a half-dozen adults are sitting in a high school classroom, staring at grim photos of sickly drug addicts and hearing about the deadly consequences of gang crime. They'd rather not be here, but a judge made them come.

The moms and dads were ordered to attend the class under a new California law giving judges the option of sending parents for training when their kids are convicted of gang crimes for the first time.

Assemblyman Tony Mendoza, the lawmaker behind the Parent Accountability Act, said it is the first state law to give judges the power to order parents of gang members to school, though other court-mandated classes exist at the local level.

"A lot of parents do not know how to handle teenagers," Mendoza said. "Now more than ever, parents need a guide."

The new law went into effect in January and eventually will be in place across California. Budget cuts in Sacramento meant implementation of the classes was delayed and only in the past month or so have they been rolled out on a limited basis in the Los Angeles Unified School District.

Several of those first classes were canceled due to low attendance, something organizers blamed on judges' ignorance of the new law. But the sputtering start also speaks to the difficulties of trying to engage parents who may be too busy or apathetic to take a more active role in their kids' lives.

Authorities say Los Angeles County has about 80,000 gang members, though those estimates vary. Parents in gang neighborhoods often struggle to make ends meet and find themselves working more than one job. The long hours mean they can't spend much time with their kids and some youngsters say they are tempted into gang life by a sense of companionship missing from their own family.

"The most difficult thing is to have control of the kids," said Socorro Gonzalez, a housekeeper who was ordered to a recent class after her son, a member of the San Fer gang, got into trouble. "When I come home, I don't know what they have been up to."

At the class last month with six parents, an instructor speaking in Spanish flashed images of drug paraphernalia and showed pictures of addicts before and after they acquired their habit. At a later session, another instructor outlined classic warning signs of gang involvement – tattoos, secretive behavior, sudden changes in musical tastes and the use of gang hand signals.

Jose and Rosalva Rodriguez attended one of the first classes, which was held on two consecutive Saturdays at a high school in the San Fernando Valley. Their 16-year-old son had been accused of spraying graffiti when police arrested him at a party attended by gang members.

In addition to sentencing him to one year's probation, community service and counseling, the judge ordered the parents to attend the class, where they heard about tough legal penalties levied against gang members and how they could get more involved in their kids' lives.

"It was very important," Jose Rodriguez said after driving an hour from Lancaster, a sprawling city in the high desert north of Los Angeles. "I'm going to speak to him, listen to him and give him advice."

The 48-year-old baker said he learned how to spot the warning signs of gang involvement, including if his son was carrying markers that can be used for gang graffiti.

Eventually, the classes will include the family members of victims of gang crime speaking to parents about their ordeals.

"There is nothing more moving than someone sitting in front of you, telling you how they felt when they heard the gunshots or their son or daughter was killed," Mendoza said.

The classes are supposed to be self funding and parents will eventually pay $20 or so a class, but the fee is being waived for now to draw more participants.

If parents fail to attend, they could be held in contempt of court. Judges are likely to lenient initially because only four high schools are offering the classes, making it impractical for parents without cars to attend.

Olu Orange, an adjunct professor at the University of Southern California's political science department, said he was troubled by the possibility of parents being held in contempt for an offense committed by their child and adjudicated by a juvenile judge and not a jury.

"The prospect of parents being subject to criminal penalties for violating a court order that is imposed on them as part of a non-jury process scares me," Orange said.

The law was inspired by Mendoza's own brush with gang life.

Growing up in the gritty Florence neighborhood south of downtown Los Angeles, Mendoza saw the importance of parental involvement. The second youngest of nine kids, he was drifting toward gang life and sported the shaved head and baggy Dickies shorts favored by many Latino street gang members.

His cousin was headed the same way. But when Mendoza's mother started to clamp down on which friends he could hang out with, his aunt was less strict. The cousin eventually became a full-blown member of the Florencia-13 street gang and was killed in a drive-by shooting in the early 1990s.

"My mom started getting more involved and prohibited us from hanging out with certain people," Mendoza said. "My aunt didn't."

Other court-mandated classes exist, including the Parent Project, a 10-week program in Los Angeles County that counsels parents and their kids who may be skipping school, taking drugs or involved in gang life.

Rick Velasquez, executive director of Youth Outreach Services in Chicago, said parenting classes seemed like a good idea but noted that judges could often do a much better job of getting parents involved in their child's activities simply by speaking with them when they show up in court to support their children.

Elsewhere, other penalties exist for parents of children who get into trouble. In several jurisdictions, including Santa Fe, N.M., and San Juan Capistrano in Orange County, parents of kids caught spraying graffiti must pay the bill to clean it up.

A new law going into effect in California next year would let officials prosecute parents when their kids skip school.

Pasadena juvenile Judge Philip Soto said he'd not had a case yet where he could send parents to the new Parent Accountability class, but he supported it.

"It's always difficult in court when the parents come in and feign ignorance and say, 'I didn't know anything about this,'" Soto said. "You have to sit back and wonder how can you miss these signs."

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09:33 AM on 12/14/2010
Parents are responsible for their kids-if they don't value education as a way to better their kid's lives, then neither will their kids. They can't turn them loose to raise havoc as gang bangers, etc. If they can't control them, then the state needs to step in and help the parents learn parenting skills. If the parent won't learn, etc., then the next time their kid goes to court, then then they also need to go to court and explain why they can't control their kid. Perhaps they could pay for any damages, etc-this might encourage them to take an interst.
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11:54 PM on 12/13/2010
Looks like a great turnout...
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Donald Simon
11:07 PM on 12/13/2010
Great idea.
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Foodgrade
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10:11 PM on 12/13/2010
You white folks clean up your own crime with the banks and outsourcing and corrupt justice system. Then tell us how to raise our kids.
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dbrett480
12:58 PM on 12/15/2010
Why do you make this into a race issue? You arguments against this program have been shot down on numerous fronts so you try to deflect onto unrelated issues.
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Foodgrade
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01:41 AM on 12/16/2010
Your definition of a "gang" exactly describes the Rampart boys. Can you please explain to us why they were not prosecuted under the gang laws that were already in place then?
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Foodgrade
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01:42 AM on 12/16/2010
Didn't think so.
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Foodgrade
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10:09 PM on 12/13/2010
The bankers parents raised them, and the bankers are abusing their children by teaching them that money is more important than community. These parents should be forced to go to parenting class or be charged with child abuse. They are causing huge damage to the community and the planet. This is a racist bill. Whites don't like non whites for the most part and applaud any law that grinds them further into poverty. The criminals are in the banks and corporations, not the low income neighborhoods. The cops manufacture crime to feed for profit prisons. Low income people are under attack by the police, who are also involved in drug distribution.
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thereisonlyoneparty
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08:36 AM on 12/14/2010
From your irrational comments I suspect that you have recently been forced into this class.  I guess the sad part is that you produced progeny at all.

This has nothing to do with "race" (which does not exist; if you were educated you would know that).  Well, at least not in the way that you think.  It has to do with "race" in the way that people join gangs which are often based upon a presumed shared identity.

Blaming the parents is right in a way as they have fostered the environment for such things to happen.  But it is not going to do anything.  Children are not going to unlearn a reliance on social constructs.
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Foodgrade
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12:06 PM on 12/14/2010
From your post I can tell that you are brainwashed so you must have gone through the "class". While I realize that there is no such thing as "race" in a biological sense, your post is disingenuous, because you know that I was talking about; illegal discrimination over the color of someone's skin. So if you don't want to address the issue, fine. But I see that all of your education dosen't stop you from indulging in the ad hominem attack.


The law is discriminatory because it is focused on a narrow section of society, which makes the law illegal.

The law is racist because the law, in practice, will be operative only in neighborhoods known to be the home of people of color which also makes the law illegal.

The law is clearly nothing but political posturing, because it is well known that this sort of coerced compliance is the worst possible learning environment and has never worked in the past. The instructors in these classes generally have ill will for the people they are supposed to be helping and the entire program degenerates into opportunity for oppression, money making and the introduction of people to a life of incarceration in preperation to become fodder in for profit prisons. In short, just another trip law aimed at non white people.
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dbrett480
01:01 PM on 12/15/2010
Banker parents? I've never heard of a banker who was under the age of 18.

And I don't know how you can say that this is a racist bill. All races have gangs, unless you haven't heard of the KKK or Aryan Nation.
09:42 PM on 12/13/2010
A more effective punishment would be put the parents in jail. I bet their parenting skills would improve dramatically upon release.
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Foodgrade
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10:58 PM on 12/13/2010
Again. Start with the bankers. They're raising monsters.
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07:52 PM on 12/13/2010
I think affluent families should be examined, and if their kids are too focused on money or paintball guns, the parents should be ordered to parenting class under threat of contempt of court. Rich kids trashing the woods with 4 wheelers should be labeled as gangs, and the parents rounded up. Why are gangs of rich kids committing crimes never labeled as gangs? Paintball vandalism, drunk parties in hotel rooms, environmental destruction.

Nope, it's not a racist law.
09:22 PM on 12/13/2010
When kids from affluent white families threaten honest taxpayers, I'll agree with you.
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Foodgrade
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09:42 PM on 12/13/2010
Thank you for agreeing. Lets go get those bankers.
10:23 PM on 12/13/2010
Look, I'm not so ignorant as to think that affluent whites don't have a leg up on poor minorities in the legal system. Of course they do. But if you're actually comparing "drunk parties in hotel rooms" to incidents of gang violence like drive-by shootings, mentioned in this article, then that comparison is absurd. I agree with you that affluent parents of juvenile delinquents should have to take parenting classes as well (and if they're affluent, they can pay their own way), but the discrepancy is not intrinsically racist.
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Foodgrade
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10:51 PM on 12/13/2010
The white parents will never be asked to take parenting classes. They will never be taken to task for inculcating greed into their children who grow up to be criminal bankers and people who create false wars and kill millions for profit. The white kids still enjoy a 37% less chance of prison for the same cocaine crime. It was a difference of 100 not long ago. 2 unarmed men were gunned down by police in Oakland, one recently, one a year ago, while a white man on the Bay bridge, who was armed and threatend to detonate a bomb was taken in alive.

While I know, that you will have a rationalization for this, you won't convince many non white families that this parenting class bill is not racial posturing for political advancement and profit.
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10:52 PM on 12/13/2010
And the white folks seem to be fine with it.
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KJLSanDiego
05:31 PM on 12/13/2010
I work with teenagers, and most messed up kids come from messed up families. Some people just don't have the common sense, life skills or stability to help their kids through life. I wish every adult who has kids in their life had access to education like this.
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Foodgrade
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07:54 PM on 12/13/2010
Oh. So you are one of the enlightened ones who will teach the savage parents of "gang" members. Don't worry, if you touch one, the color won't rub off on you.
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KJLSanDiego
11:57 AM on 12/14/2010
My significant other and most of my best friends are minorities.
Heck, so are most of my exes.
There goes your theory.
Sorry to burst your little bubble.
I actually think we need to learn from the discipline of East Asians, and take studies as seriously as they do.
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KJLSanDiego
01:46 PM on 12/14/2010
Ugh! I'm so over you! Calling me a rac!st because I think some parents suck, really?!? Did I ever even bring race into this?!? There are plenty of white kids in neo naz! gangs, tons in SD in fact, and their parents need an education so they can start raising kids that play well with others. You're really ridiculous !
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08:01 PM on 12/13/2010
It really makes me mad that nobody will explain exactly who will be teaching these classes with what curriculum and explain how the curriculum was validated. Which psychobabbler who has never been to a low income neighborhood will write this curriculum? I see everyone lauding the "classes" when nobody has any idea of the validity of these classes. The only thing we know is that the law is targeted at low income people who will have to pay for these classes under threat of jail.

I wish wealthy white people would learn how to raise kids and maybe we could have avoided the bank bailout and the outsourcing. Because I promise you that the banks and outsourcers have done more damage to this country than any kids tagged with the spurious lable of "gang member".
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KJLSanDiego
12:01 PM on 12/14/2010
Well, why don't we wait to find out before you go into a tizzy?!?
Crime and criminals come from ALL backgrounds, and most parents of teenagers these days (mostly people born in the '70's who had kids in the mid '90's) care too much about being "cool" with their kids. No one wants to be a disciplinarian anymore. Sorry to stereotype and generalize, but it really is way too prevalent these days.
05:18 PM on 12/13/2010
I like this idea for a number of reasons, although it only addresses one area of the multitude of areas of development in adolescents (peer acceptance, societal factors & influences, cultural factors, etc). However, I will always contend that the behavior of kids always stem from the actions of the parent. I just wish counseling in other areas would be applied to parents, and for those whose children are not in gang but committing other crimes as well.

Parents are responsible for their children.
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09:43 PM on 12/13/2010
I just wish counseling in other areas would be applied to developers, elected officials and bankers.
05:15 PM on 12/13/2010
Every single judge in the U.S. should force the parents of these gang members to attend classes. It should be mandatory or else there will be severe penalties.
Bad behavior all starts with the parents. Gang members have affected the lives of innocent people everywhere and they have to be held accountable, somehow, some way.
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KJLSanDiego
05:21 PM on 12/13/2010
I think there are many areas of the country that can't relate at all to how big of a problem gangs are in So Cal.
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09:45 PM on 12/13/2010
I'm very aware of the problems large gangs such as the LAPD create in S Cal. This n=bill is an example. Bought and paid for by the cop unions.
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07:28 PM on 12/13/2010
And of course corporations and corrupt representatives who work to destroy community for money bear no part of the blame. The answer? Extort money from low income people. What a load. Don't want to look down into the slums, so cheer when the gentrification crowd waves a money making bandaid in the air.
03:32 PM on 12/13/2010
Bout time.
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MG Metiva
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02:16 PM on 12/13/2010
Maybe we need to tighten up the US-Mexico border, to stop the gangs main source of money, cocaine and marijuana.
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JScott
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04:23 PM on 12/13/2010
Oh typical RWNM response blame folks so. of the border.
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10:34 PM on 12/13/2010
What is a RWNM anyway? I notice that it's the only response you have.
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Clay Rehmus
04:23 PM on 12/13/2010
Yes. Because prohibition worked so well in the '20s.
02:04 PM on 12/13/2010
We, as a society,can criticize the parents for their horrible parenting, et cetera, but the responsibility lies with the kid who commits the crime. Taking parenting classes after the fact is a little too late.
04:09 PM on 12/13/2010
Well, the kid should still be held accountable, sure, but if a 15-year-old sprays some graffiti, it doesn't mean he's a lost cause. And it's not about punishing parents, it's about giving them some guidance.
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Foodgrade
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07:46 PM on 12/13/2010
Who, exactly will provide this "guidance"? And if it's not about punishing the parents, why is the threat of imprisonment offered? And why is this leglislation written to exclude parents in affluent areas? No of course it's not about race. A rich kid abuses a paint ball gun and the parents don't go to parenting class. A poor kid abuses a paint can and the parents are rounded up.

I call bull you know what.
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JScott
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04:24 PM on 12/13/2010
Wonder how long it will be found out that some of these kids aren't living with parents or guardians but with gang members or on their own-that'd be a real eye opener.
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Foodgrade
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10:37 PM on 12/13/2010
I wonder how long it will take that not only do these kids not live at "home" but they're running drugs for cops. Parts of our country = Mexico City.
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12:59 PM on 12/13/2010
People planning to have children should be able to attend classes to recieve some sort of benefit from the government. Parents who recieve welfare and have a ton of kids should be required to go if they want money. Parental education rocks.
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KJLSanDiego
05:21 PM on 12/13/2010
You tell 'em!
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Foodgrade
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10:38 PM on 12/13/2010
Great, when do we start educating the moms and dads who produce bankers?
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12:43 PM on 12/13/2010
I think this is great. The people having children these days are just awful and they should be responsible for their children's actions. I hear of too much gang activity going on in LA and it's time the parents start getting involved. Most times, the parents just do not care and they should have thought about that before having kids. It's not fair to society to have to be victims of violent crimes because of others' irresponsibility and lack of parenting skills. In a perfect world there would be psychological tests and minimum salary requirements for people to have kids AND people would abide to those rules. Unfortunately so much trash in this world and they are the ones breeding. ugh.
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07:47 PM on 12/13/2010
I know. Lets start with the parents of bankers.