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How The Catholic Church Endorses (Or Ignores) Mystical Visions

First Posted: 12/15/2010 8:13 pm Updated: 05/25/2011 6:20 pm

By Daniel Burke
Religion News Service

(RNS) In 1859, a Wisconsin farmwoman recounted three mystical meetings with the Virgin Mary, who told her to pray for the conversion of sinners and teach children the Catholic faith.

Last Wednesday (Dec. 8), the Bishop of Green Bay finally sanctioned Adele Brise's visions as both supernatural and "worthy of belief." It was the first officially approved Marian apparition (the Catholic Church's term for paranormal appearances by Mary) in the United States.

Of the many questions kindled by Bishop David Ricken's announcement, two seemed particularly keen: How does the church investigate mystical visions? And why does it take so long to approve them?

Brise was 28, partially blind, and far from her native Belgium when she reported speaking with a woman wearing a brilliant white gown and starry crown who seemed to float above the fields.

The vision called herself "the Queen of Heaven," and gave Brise a mission. "Gather the children in this wild country and teach them what they should know for salvation."

For the rest of her life, Brise did just that, trudging across the untamed frontier to catechize children, build a school and found an order of Franciscan sisters.

Since Brise's visions, tales of miraculous healings attributed to Mary have become commonplace in Champion, Wis., where crutches and other tokens of cured injuries fill a shrine built on the site of the apparition, said Deacon Ray DuBois, a spokesman for the Diocese of Green Bay.

Ricken opened a formal investigation into Brise's visions in January 2009, appointing a committee of three Marian experts who followed guidelines issued by the Vatican in 1978 for judging apparitions and revelations. These committees typically consult experts in psychology,
church law, Scripture, history, theology and testimony from people familiar with the visionary.

In general, church investigators are more "History Detectives," than "Ghost Hunters," to use a television analogy. Supernatural events are almost impossible to prove, said the Rev. Johann Roten, who has served on committees assessing apparitions, so the church is more interested in the consequences of the vision.

"It's not only the moment of seeing Our Lady that is important to determining whether a vision is true, but also what the seer actually does with that experience," said Roten, director of the International Marian Research Institute at the University of Dayton in Ohio.

The Vatican guidelines require an investigation into visionaries' moral and mental character -- crackpots, degenerates and moneygrubbers need not apply. Extra points are given for visions that inspire abundant "spiritual fruits," such as works of charity, intense prayer or
conversion. Alleged apparitions that encourage disobedience towards the church or its doctrines are dismissed.

Bishops have the authority to approve apparitions in their diocese, though occasionally national bishops' conferences or the Vatican will step in if there is a dispute, such as in Medjugorje, Bosnia-Herzegovina.

Thus far, the church has only approved about 12 Marian apparitions worldwide, said Roten, with Lourdes, France and Fatima, Portugal among the most famous. Others -- including some in the U.S. -- are under investigation, Roten said, but declined to name them.

"You don't want to start publicizing things because you are not sure they will go anywhere," said Roten.

Alleged apparitions in Bayside, N.Y., Emmitsburg, Md., and Marlboro Township, N.J. were investigated and declared false by the church.

In the 1950s, a farmwife's visions of Mary in Necedah, Wis., about 150 miles southeast of Champion, attracted one of the largest religious gatherings in the state's history, said Sandra Zimdars-Swartz, a scholar at the University of Kansas. The church, however, dismissed the Necedah apparitions.

In general, the Catholic Church approaches stories of supernatural visions with a mixture of excitement and caution, scholars say.

On the one hand, mystical experiences can inspire believers and spark vast spiritual movements, such as in Mexico after the Virgin of Guadalupe reportedly appeared to peasant Juan Diego in 1531. Millions of pilgrims -- particularly Catholics -- trek to Lourdes and Fatima each year.

But Catholic leaders are also wary of hoaxes, ridicule and diviners who boast of a hotline to God. Hundreds of visions -- from spotting Jesus in a grilled cheese, to weeping statues, to more sustained spiritual experiences -- have been reported and dismissed over the centuries.

"I think the church quite properly plays a waiting game," said Brian Britt, a professor of religious studies at Virginia Tech University. He compared the long lag time in approving apparitions to the church's lengthy process for canonizing saints. Better late than wrong, is the prevailing ethos.

"Once the visionary is dead and gone, if the pilgrimage site continues to have meaning and value for the church it becomes less risky," Britt said, "and even sometimes desirable for the church to offer its endorsement."

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Brainstormy
Still waiting for the trickle-down.
09:23 AM on 12/31/2010
"Once the visionary is dead and gone, if the pilgrimage site continues to have meaning and value for the church it becomes less risky," Britt said, "and even sometimes desirable for the church to offer its endorsement."

Note the operative word in this comment. It's "value."
09:53 PM on 12/29/2010
You'd think these Wise, Holy Figures would finally realize the ineffficiency in spreading any message by appearing to one person in a world of a 6 Billion. Time for our Heavenly Troops to update their media presentation.
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Brainstormy
Still waiting for the trickle-down.
09:32 AM on 12/31/2010
Isn't that the truth? And what's the point of the apparitions anyway? Lourdes has been in the healing business for over 150 years, has about 5 million pilgrims showing up each year, and the Catholic church has legitimized only about 65 miracles in all that time. Rotten statistics, I'd say. Maybe God just needs to go hi tech.
12:04 AM on 12/21/2010
I know for a fact that these visions can and DO occur everyday. I have been having them myself almost daily for the last 7 years. These visitations form the divine spirits are intense and shake the foundation of your world. Believing in the possibility of being visited by the Virgin Mother, and actually seeing her are two completely different things, and for me (and i would guess everyone else who has been visited by her) altered the course of my life. I have more photographic evidence and other material evidence that proves the validity of my visitations with the divine spirits, yet everyday i face ridicule from family, friends and religious authorities. I was told by religious figures in Lima Peru to take this matter very seriously, but everywhere i turn to for help I am marginalized. It is no surprise to me that it has taken so long for Brise's experienced to be accepted as true in the eyes of the Catholic church because these visitations can be quite distracting- because in the end we want to have a resolution and know what it all means, but the meanings are complex and seems to unfold over time. This could be dangerous for a church rocked by scandals like the Catholic church... Any advice on how to proceed with my own visitations are welcomed too...
10:45 PM on 12/26/2010
Well I actually believe that those things can happen but my point of view is very different than your. My point of view is that our origins come from this planet: When I say that I mean that I believe that there was once life here on Earth. Like a million years ago, it's like a clock ; it's repetitive , and what i think that there happened a cataclysm like the one that is about to occur on Earth in 2012. Many people don't want to believe but i do believe in you but in other words. If you analyze what i just said it is the same as you but in different words...

Ending up my conversation with you I just want to say that i do believe in all that you are saying : I once saw a ghost too when i was 6 years old and I totally know what it's to be criticized all the time of been insane but whatever... I just would like for you to have confidence with me and if you can talk to me more about this topic .. Also if you can show me some of the pics that you have as evidence...
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12:30 PM on 12/19/2010
Whether or not the Catholic Church approves or disapproves these visions, does, in no way diminish their impact on the individuals who receive them. They are private revelations given to people open enough to receive them. Usually, they will compel the person who receives them to spread the message. This is a Spiritual test for the individual who receives them. They can choose to either tell about them or not. It is up to them (free choice, again). The approval of any outside entity is of no consequence. Jesus said, "Let your light so shine before men that they will see your good works and give glory to your Father which is in heaven."
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jonjon tha 5 8
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10:55 AM on 12/17/2010
(Continued from below)

But it's also the Buddhist "annihilation of the Ego," etc. The basic experience is entirely "non-partisan"; it can occur as a result of religious practices like prayer and meditation, and the person who experiences it in such a context is likely to interpret his experience in those terms; but it can also occur in a totally non-religious context. I'm a non-partisan, anti-dogmatist, hence I call myself an "atheist" - yet I've actually experienced this, so I also call myself a "gnostic."

tl; dr. I know. I've typed all this and I'm not even sure why. I know what the usual response is from my friends. Yet I suspect almost everybody has had *some* experience of such a state of consciousness, at least a "foreshadowing" of it, when "absorbed" in a piece of music or a work of art or something, or, indeed, when praying or whatever. All my friends are good liberals, very secular, and I'm with them as far as that skepticism of religion goes. But I feel that I also know what religious people are talking about when they describe this type of experience; I just think they've misinterpreted it in light (or darkness) of their dogma.

And that's how I bring this around to the actual topic - the RCC simply checks an individual Catholic's "mystical vision" against Church doctrine. If nothing stands out in contradiction, they just might endorse. But that endorsement is really totally irrelevant.
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jonjon tha 5 8
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10:54 AM on 12/17/2010
I alternate between calling myself an atheist and a gnostic.

I've had what I'm obliged to call "mystical experiences" (or take my pick of a dozen other phrases equally indefinite yet loaded) both spontaneously and as a result of concerted effort with certain meditation techniques.

The basic characteristic of the "mystical experience" is the union of subject with object in consciousness.

Ordinarily there's the "seer" and the "thing seen," the "knower" and the "thing known" - "self" and "not-self." E.g., I see an apple. I am "that which experiences," and the apple is "that which I experience" at the moment. It's not as if I could be aware without being aware of *something*, and it's not as if the apple could be known without being known of *somebody*. You always have to have those two parts, subject and object.

But in the "mystic trance," subject and object are united - or the distinction between them is eliminated - however you want to phrase it (any phrase you pick is going to be irrational, because you're trying to describe a state that transcends the basic premises upon which all description is based). All you can say is that it's a state of "pure consciousness." There's no "I" opposed to the universe; there's just a state of "unity." It IS impossible to explain; but this is what the Christian mystics are talking about when they speak of "union with God."

(Continued)
10:18 AM on 12/17/2010
Just that when one says one now can going enter the Kingdom, through the Catholic Church, which is totally the opposite of all that God has said and what is written, right from the beginning of the Bible and God's word. Not good fruit to me at all.
New Yorker
Roman Catholic, Anti-DEATH, Combat Vet, Sinner
09:52 AM on 12/17/2010
Marian Apparitions are capable of belief because God is real, His Only begotten Son, Jesus is real, and Mary is mother is Real. The Church is alive and well, and the Holy Spirit guides the church, and so the cautious application of facts about the people involved and the miracles common after such appearances by our heavenly Mother yield "Good Fruit". Jesus said when asked 'How Can We Know ?" " Good Trees Bear Good Fruit. You shall know them by their fruits." Fatima, Portugal, Guadalupe, all have mountains of Good Fruit that proves them to be the handiwork of God's Goodness and Mercy. Never forget that even in Jesus own life there were those who denied him in spite of miracles day after day, all good. Blind to goodness is just one of the afflictions that sin brings upon the sinners of this world.
10:16 AM on 12/17/2010
Thank you and true.  Blindness to goodness, God's goodness given freely, is one affliction that sin brings upon the sinners, which we all are. But many chose to boast of self righteousness, like they earned it themselves, not so. God places us all through out the world, and we all have a purpose work to do, and we come into perfection, of God, when we accept what HE has created us to be, poor, great or lesser. But know those who have been given much will have much to answer for. We are all called to become servants slaves to God, to serve one another as God serves each one of us also.  

But always test the spirits, many also think, because they are rich in material things, they have worked hard for it themselves, is not  true, or good fruit. But God's gives blessings and purposes for all to do his work and serve him, God provides for all his children every where, for their needs No one on earth should be starving period.
Our Free, Blessings given, are to become a blessing to others, that is good fruits. Worship of greed is not good fruit. 2 different laws are not good fruit. But one law for all and for all to be distributed, given to,  in equality rights for all.
Abraham did not become and was called Righteous Man, prosperity (does not mean wealth, money either) because Abraham work hard, but because Abraham was -faithful and obedient- to God first and only, in all things. Abraham accepted God's will and desire for him, and came into that perfection. Abraham, served God only, and was not greedy with his blessings, but shared with all and loved all and prayed for all, even his enemies.
Abraham, pleaded with God for HIS mercy. Miracles Blessings is not something we can earn, but what God choses to give freely, to whom HE wills. For God does not charge us for a miracle, most miracles come in our darkest hr, when we have fallen, or what ever comes. But it comes also for a purpose to do good. 
Remember Christ said. If one only had faith as the size of a mustard seed, He could do greater things then I , one could move mountains.
12:38 PM on 12/17/2010
If Jesus had done even half the miracle the gospels say he did (and the bible says he did to many miracles for anyone to even write down) he would have been the most famous man in the entire world in his own lifetime; yet no one wrote a word about him until decades after his death. This delay can also be seen in the vision of Guadalupe; no one said anything about it until nearly 100 years after it was supposed to have happened. The bishop who is said to have witnessed it was a prolific letter writer and we have hundreds of his letters to the Vatican and other authorities; yet there is nothing in any of them about a vision of the virgin Mary. The Catholic Church is rapidly being overcome by the cult of Mary worship which will in the not to distant future declare Mary to be part of the Godhead.
09:51 AM on 12/17/2010
How pleased our Blessed Mother must be, when we worship and praise God only, her beloved son. I cannot believe that any mother would want to out shine her own child and God who placed him within her?
New Yorker
Roman Catholic, Anti-DEATH, Combat Vet, Sinner
10:10 AM on 12/17/2010
Mary leads all her children to her Divine Son. Mary is the holiest and greatest woman God ever created, and He made her the Queen of Heaven. He gave mankind this Mother of God as a Gift to all humans. She is 'The Woman' who God has destined to Crush the head of the serpent. God said that he would put enmity between her and the serpent, and Here is that incomparable Woman, the Ark of the New Covenant that held God within her. Her Glory is the Glory of God who made only her as the angel Gabriel said, " Hail, Full of Grace !" How wonderful that we all have such a Mother as this, otally devoted to the will of God and Her Divine Magestic Son.
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HawaiianLady
My name means Gift of God.
12:52 PM on 12/17/2010
Exactly. We point to Mary; she in turn points to Jesus.
01:02 PM on 12/17/2010
"Mary leads all her children to her divine son". Nice to know that you, like most Catholics, have already give to Mary the work of the Holy Spirit, and will in a few years annoint her as being part of the Godhead. Mary was the creation of the joining of genes of her father and mother and since they were sinners she could not (according to Christian doctrine) be sinless herself (being sinless is something that can only be attributed to Jesus). Since the gospel story shows Mary thinking that her son had gone mad it can hardly be said that she was totally devoted to the will of God. And since God is a being that supposedly has existed for all eternity, to say that he had a mother is rather nonsensical. And, like most Catholics, you seen to know little of what the bible really says: Genesis 3:15 says "And I will put enmitdy between you and the woman, and between your offsping and hers; "he" (the woman's offsping, not the woman herself) will crush your head, and you will strike "his" heel."
09:49 AM on 12/17/2010
My friend died and saw shiva dancing, then then he was sucked through white light and he woke up on an ER table
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Patrick Flannery
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09:49 AM on 12/17/2010
Even in this sympathetic article, it is easy to see that the Church's "efforts" to investigate these visions is a joke and more of an effort to make sure the visionary will not embarrass the Church once his vision is confirmed. "Supernatural events are almost impossible to prove"...that's for sure, since if any proof were achieved it would move the event from the supernatural squarely into the natural world.
12:10 AM on 12/21/2010
After all Supernatural is just "very natural", I have the material evidence that places it squarely into the "natural world" but what do i do with it? and is it safe to bring this evidence to the surface?
08:31 AM on 12/17/2010
Told in scripture even if someone said I can make fire fall from the sky, and does so, for all to see, NO NOT ACCEPT. Do so to get all to worship and bow to him and not God. He is out to steal souls and separate us from the true God. Our faithfulness to God only. What faith is is not seeing yet believing. The devil did the same thing to Christ to deceive him also, to get Christ to worship him and bow to him. Christ said test all spirits. God loves all dearly. God said But you do not ask ME, nor seek ME< nor knock at MY DOOR. God is a living eternal and is not dead.
Christ taught that the real divine authority has placed within every heart, the understanding to know right from wrong, gave all common sense.
09:09 AM on 12/17/2010
...I guess, you're just saying, beware of false claims???
09:17 AM on 12/17/2010
Saying what Christ taught us all test the spirits. The Shepherd knows HIS sheep and the sheep knows their Shepherds voice, that is what I am saying. Love all
08:17 AM on 12/17/2010
The devil can -transform himself-, like the devil did, with Christ, the devil appeared as a beautiful angel of light, of God. The devil wants us to worship him or who ever, to separate us from worshiping only God and being Faithful, to God who can do all things.  The devil wants to separate us, steal our souls and to bow to him. not God. A great deceiver. We never talk about the devil or taught about him, the devil likes that, does not want us all to know he exist. Christ did not bow to him or accept his riches, kingdoms, powers to be King over all.beware, the devil can transform himself and Christ taught us this. Christ bowed to no one on earth, nor no religion, only subject and bowed and worship God ONLY.  Christ even left his own, family mother to do God's work. God only was first in all things.
Told his own mother, Do you not know, I am out to do MY FATHERS WORKS.
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xdiesp
07:29 AM on 12/17/2010
Two misconceptions.

First, creating your own little vision story wouldn't rise an eyebrow among clergy used to hearing bs mysticism night and day: it has to be a breakthrough with a huge following for them to even leave their seat and interview you.

Second, in the end it's this following which creates the event - and basically, all they do is to pray. Because they are sick, handicapped and outright deathbound to actually resort to pilgrimages. So before you sneer at them as a smug 30 something who's understood everything in life, realize that places like Lourdes are made of people who suffer greatly and shouldn't be made fun of.
07:49 AM on 12/17/2010
Nor should people who suffer greatly, their ills, be used either right, for self interest only?
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xdiesp
08:11 AM on 12/17/2010
Don't treat them like stupids. People ask for miracles as a last resort, when pushed to the limits of desperation. They are aware of crossing the line of reason vs belief, and have nothing to lose.

Please show mercy, don't shove them down their throats that they are lying to themselves to feel better. I for one wouldn't believe in a god, but neither in a humanity incapable of showing this little compromise to a dieing man.
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07:08 AM on 12/17/2010
The leaders of the Church are not in the business in proving God but on the contrary. When one considered that Jesus said, "I will destroy the seven-hills and the Harlot", and that is where the Vatican is built. There are many that have visions and have access to the Akashic records, and it is enough to just tell of one, and that is Akiane Kramarik, now about a fifteen-year old child prodigy. I am going to mention her, because every major news group around the world has interviewed her, and she started drawing of heaven at the age of four. It is best to go to utube to see many of these interviews, but I am going to leave her web site below. If the Church cared for these millions of people that have 'visions', they would highlight them. Link below:

www.akianekramarik.com
08:00 AM on 12/17/2010
Thank you
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HawaiianLady
My name means Gift of God.
01:08 PM on 12/17/2010
The whole point of the article is about how the church views visions. It can't "highlight" them if they're phony. They need to be authenticated as far as possible before the church can even acknowledge them. This child is a gifted artist, but it could be claimed that that's all she is, and not a visionary with a mission. Just a kid with a great imagination and the ability to express it.

Real spiritual visitations by heavenly visitors are a whole other category. There is a reason, for example, why Mary visits; her 29-year Medjugorje visit is, in her words, "To tell the world that God exists; that in Him is the fullness of life and peace; and to know this peace, mankind must return to God."

Her other visits have had other reasons specific to the times, but always with the intent of returning people to good lives and away from sin.