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Clinton, Gates: Low Public Approval Of Afghan War Won't Change Policy


First Posted: 12/16/10 02:18 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

WASHINGTON -- With public support for the war in Afghanistan at a new low, top Obama administration officials on Thursday defended the United States' commitment to the conflict, arguing that national-security interests trump the will of the majority.

A record 60 percent of Americans now say the war in Afghanistan is not worth fighting, according to a new ABC News-Washington Post poll. The poll shows public disapproval of the war in the same range as the peak recorded opposition to the war in Iraq, which stood at 66 percent in April 2007.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that while she understands the concerns of the public, government officials cannot make decisions based on polling data:

I'm well aware of the popular concern, and I understand it. But I don't think leaders -- and certainly this president will not -- make decisions that are matters of life and death and the future security of our nation based on polling. That would not be something that you will see him, or any of us, deciding. We are trying to do the very best we can with the leadership that we've all been entrusted with, to avoid making the mistakes that were made in previous years, where we did not develop the kind of relationship and understanding and coordination with either Afghanistan or Pakistan that would enable us to have a better way of interacting with them and perhaps preventing some of what came to pass. And frankly, walking away at critical moments in critical moments in the last 25 to 30 years, that created conditions that we had a hand in unfortunately contributing to. [...]

I think it's understandable, and I'm very respectful of the feelings of the American people, but the question I would ask is, how do you feel about a continuing American commitment that is aimed at protecting you and your family now and into the future? Because that's the question we've asked, and this is how we've answered it.

"I think if you look at polling in almost all of our 49 coalition partners' countries, public opinion is in doubt," added Defense Secretary Robert Gates. "Public opinion would be majority, in terms of majority, against their participation. I would just say it's obviously the responsibility of leaders to pay attention to public opinion, but at the end of the day, their responsibility is to look out for the public interest and look to the long term."

The issue of continuing a war in the face of strong public dissatisfaction has long been a tough subject for government officials. In March 2008, when ABC News' Martha Raddatz pointed out to Dick Cheney that two-thirds of the American public believed the Iraq war was not worth fighting, the vice president famously replied, "So?" "So?" Raddatz asked. "You don't care what the American people think?" Cheney said: "No. I think you cannot be blown off course by the fluctuations in the public opinion polls."

The Obama administration's response Thursday was a far cry from that exchange, but it's also unlikely to mollify a growing number of skeptics of the war. Shortly before the press briefing with Obama, Clinton, Gates and White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, a couple hundred anti-war activists gathered in front of the White House for a rally and demonstration meant to provoke arrests.

More than once during the briefing with reporters, Clinton stressed that the Obama administration did not begin the mess in Afghanistan, likely an attempt to beat back calls for the conflict to be branded "Obama's war."

"Having inherited what we did and having spent an intensive period of time in 2009 reviewing every possible approach, and, frankly, listening to quite contrasting points of view about the way forward, the president and we agreed this was a commitment that we had not only to continue, but we had to adopt a new strategy, we had to resource it more and we had to pursue it," said Clinton. "And the diagnostic review that we have just undertaken, that we described to you, has concluded that we are making gains on that strategy."

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09:48 AM on 12/19/2010
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said that while she understands the concerns of the public, government officials cannot make decisions based on polling data:

No, but the basis for your decisions has led us down the wrong path, and perhaps it's time you listened to the people you purport to represent!
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Servant2All
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05:44 PM on 12/16/2010
It's B. S, like this that prompts me to ALWAYS remind my fellow Americans that we DO NOT live in a "representative democracy"! Our leaders DO NOT represent the will of the people. Instead they represent THEIR OWN agendas. They talk in terms of "keeping us safe" when it is the bullying tactics of our government that HINDER our safety. When I drove a taxi, I always reminded foreigners that they ALWAYS needed to differentiate between the AMERICAN PEOPLE and the AMERICAN GOVERNMENT in their assessments as to whom their REAL ENEMY may be. I reminded them that WE do not control our government any more than others around the world do. In America, as in ALL other nations, he who has the gold makes the rules - for OTHERS TO FOLLOW. Their gold insulates them from having to adhere.

So I made sure that they knew that - though OUR GOVERNMENT may be their enemy - WE AREN'T. WE need help against an oppressive government much the same as many of THEM do. Killing innocent civilian American has NO EFFECT on what our government does and WE CAN'T make them do our will. The system is flawed. WE are in the same boat, and shouldn't be killing each other. PLEASE try to make foreigners who would kill innocent Americans understand this.
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GuyCybershy
05:50 PM on 12/16/2010
Try making your own citizens understand this.
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brothers3
Mankind In Its Vanity Keeps Us From Our Sanity
06:08 PM on 12/16/2010
We are as much their enemy as the early settlers of this country were the enemy of the native Americans, who were dispossessed using the U.S. Army.
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Marcel2010
06:16 PM on 12/16/2010
and they would, without hesitation, turn the US Army upon us if they need to.....and have done so.
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IncredulousInNorthDakota
Never Surprised by Stupidity
05:29 PM on 12/16/2010
I hate to say it but I voted for Mr. Obama and cannot, in good consciense, do so again.
Ignoring the will of the people who put you in office (I'm talking about the American citizens, not the oil companies and Wall street billionaires) is about the worst thing you can do.
We believed you when you said you'd get us out of there (and not by 2014, for god's sake!)
We believed you when you said you'd fight for single payer health care reform (remember the public option similar to Canadian and British Health care systems?)
We believed you when you said you'd roll back the Bush era tax cuts that fattened the capital accounts of billionaires and millionaires and pushed the deficit to historic proportions in just 8 years.
I voted for you because you appeared to be a fighter, willing to take on the corporate bullies and set our country back on track.
Sadly, I must admit, it seems I was wrong.
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IncredulousInNorthDakota
Never Surprised by Stupidity
05:31 PM on 12/16/2010
We believed you when you said you'd get us out of Afghanistan (and not by 2014, for god's sake!)
(sorry, should have proof read it)
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brothers3
Mankind In Its Vanity Keeps Us From Our Sanity
05:32 PM on 12/16/2010
The "will of the people" can not be trusted to know what is REALLY going on with our involvement in that part of the world.
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IncredulousInNorthDakota
Never Surprised by Stupidity
05:37 PM on 12/16/2010
The will of the people is what democracy is all about.
At $2,000,000,000 a week, WE THE PEOPLE have a right to say, "Shut it down."
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05:54 PM on 12/16/2010
I've concluded all 3 of you together have the mind of a 5-year old. You clearly have little to no knowledge of the war, of government, of people or indeed, of the concept of "thought" as in "thinking" about something before it tumbles out of your mouth onto these "pages".

The argument you just made will suffice to demonstrate: you argue the public can't be trusted to "know" what's really going on. Why? If there was a legitimate reason for pulverising other countries, I think we'd have hit on it by now. You FEAR precisely that people WILL find out that the deeds done in their name are in fact done on behalf of a small, exceptionally wealthy, very powerful elite that would do the world a very greatest of favors by disappearing from the face of the earth immediately, along with the 3 little tykes that babble about their ankles. (that would be you).
05:22 PM on 12/16/2010
With Obama and his administration all of his interests trump public opinion. As for oil and natural gas Afghanistan doesn't have any. With the new shale discoveries and new drilling techniques we have more natural gas of our own than we can use right now. We don't need any from anyone else. A supply that will last us at least a hundred years if managed correctly. And if we were to convert all of our vehicles, oil burning power plants, and homes in the east that use home heating oil we could very significantly reduce the amount of oil we need to import from others. Something that will become more and more important as developing countries such as China and India increase their use of that finite resource. In addition if we were to use that transition period of 100 years wisely and convert to hydrogen, the most plentiful element in the universe while also being one of the cleanest, along with increased use of renewable energy sources we could solve our energy problems probably as far into the future as far as we can see With the development of future technologies that that time will give us we could eliminate energy problems forever. As for Afghanistan all it is is another endless life and money draining pit the same as Vietnam was and the sooner our leaders realize that we aren't going to win there any more than we won in Vietnam the better off we'll be.
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brothers3
Mankind In Its Vanity Keeps Us From Our Sanity
05:29 PM on 12/16/2010
"As for oil and natural gas Afghanista­n doesn't have any."

And so you think you've got a great point here, don't you? Well, you don't. Afghanistan is not a goal because of oil, but because of strategic transit routes for oil and gas pipelines.

The new drilling techniques are already killing people wherever the gas companies use the processes. That's a known fact, and people are fighting for their lives in this country trying to get their local governments to outlaw these new techniques.
05:14 PM on 12/16/2010
WON'T CHANGE YOUR POLICY??? ... THAT'S WHAT JOHNSON AND NIXON SAID...UNTIL WE CAME FOR THEM.........
...WE have had enough of you... ALL OF YOU !!! ...You WILL change your New World Order attempts of surrounding all the worlds oil fields with the blood of our military, and bring ALL the troops home...Or soon enough, we will unify...despite yo...ur attempts to keep us fractured...and we will ALL come FOR YOU!!!
PS...CLINTON...You are as big a criminal as Cheney and Bush... You can kiss your presidential ambitions goodbye, for your complicity in both of these trumped up, phony wars... Be assured that the American people are slow to move in any given direction... but when we finally come together, just as we did over the Vietnam war, we will move TOGETHER like a mountain thundering down on you.
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brothers3
Mankind In Its Vanity Keeps Us From Our Sanity
05:18 PM on 12/16/2010
Talk is cheap.
08:15 PM on 12/16/2010
Like I said genius... That's what Johnson and Nixon said, before we forced them to change the policies that led to more than 60,000 of my brothers in arms, dying for a damnable lie...just like is happening now... Apparently you are too immature to remember...Maybe your mom can explain it to you in little 3rd grade terminology, so you are able to understand the big words.
Talk, may be cheap for you, but it leads to ACTION!!!
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Kurt Mundt
Interesting world we live in, eh?
05:13 PM on 12/16/2010
Obam's as much a pawn in the hands of the Military-Industrial-Fiancial complex as we are, but he'll get to walk away from it on a lifetime pension, and a lot of our has vanished.
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Blake Segal
05:11 PM on 12/16/2010
Wait they admit they are not going to pay attention to public vote and approval? Wait whats the news here?
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04:59 PM on 12/16/2010
Come on America, show us what you're really made of! Why not recruit all those in favour of continuing the war in Afghanistan, especially your so esteemed former presidents and the clever dickheads in your White House and send them all to do battle on the front lines in Afghanistan?
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brothers3
Mankind In Its Vanity Keeps Us From Our Sanity
05:04 PM on 12/16/2010
Nonsense.
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Marcel2010
05:13 PM on 12/16/2010
it is not nonsense, how many rich kids or sons of senators are on the front lines? WHY?
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Marcel2010
05:14 PM on 12/16/2010
indeed, well said, I am pissed also, this is wrong.....
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04:58 PM on 12/16/2010
So, in brief, the government will not listen to the will of the American people but instead listen to direction from the Saudis/Israel/China/whoever owns us. And what sort of government do we call this again?
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brothers3
Mankind In Its Vanity Keeps Us From Our Sanity
05:05 PM on 12/16/2010
We call this a government consisting of many more people who know much more about America's involvement in other parts of the world than you or I do.
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GuyCybershy
05:08 PM on 12/16/2010
We're finding out more and more every day thanks to Wikileaks and it is a very ugly picture indeed.
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Marcel2010
05:11 PM on 12/16/2010
more than they want us to know.....
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Kurt Mundt
Interesting world we live in, eh?
05:15 PM on 12/16/2010
Banana Republic!
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GuyCybershy
04:58 PM on 12/16/2010
Public opinion is irrelevant, perhaps even more than it was under George W. Bush. What will it take before we wake up?
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Marcel2010
05:05 PM on 12/16/2010
this article really makes me disgusted
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brothers3
Mankind In Its Vanity Keeps Us From Our Sanity
05:07 PM on 12/16/2010
Try a complete boycott of oil based products and see how you then like life on earth. "Waking up" means understanding the real reasons we do things in other parts of the world and not falling for the hype.
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Marcel2010
05:12 PM on 12/16/2010
BS
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Marcel2010
04:56 PM on 12/16/2010
this article just raised my blood pressure
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Marcel2010
04:56 PM on 12/16/2010
public opinion got the Vietnam war turned around, we will again Hilary, just keep this BS up, and find out what popular opinion CAN DO.....
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brothers3
Mankind In Its Vanity Keeps Us From Our Sanity
05:01 PM on 12/16/2010
We won't withdraw from that part of the world until we have secured access to the energy reserves there. At that point, there will be a major withdrawal, but not a complete withdrawal, and the government will allow the American people to think it was because of popular opinion.
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Marcel2010
05:04 PM on 12/16/2010
I am so sick of America's government...it's time to relocate
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05:35 PM on 12/16/2010
I'd never heard of the 3 Brothers of the Apocolypse until now - Terror, Torture and 'Tupidity (pardon my occasional lisp).

I've followed your comments and ask:

By what right does the US assert ownership of the oil resources, or any other resources, of this or any other region? Is your head so completely up your own ar*e that you are incapable of placing yourself in the shoes of the peoples of these areas and asking what YOU would do if the world's most powerful state started pounding your country into tiny little pieces, killing hundreds of thousands indiscriminately, creating millions of refugees, because a handful of criminals holed up their briefly 9 years ago?

It's their oil, 'Tupid. Their land. We have no right grounded in law to engage in any action OTHER than bringing bin Laden to justice. That's it. Every other act is unlawful, but worse, lethal to the very idea of Justice.
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papallugeteam
04:54 PM on 12/16/2010
So much for government of, by, and for the people! Or, to quote Dubya, "Who cares what you think?"
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jcaunter
Profile: schizoid, INTJ
04:43 PM on 12/16/2010
Vietnam 2
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brothers3
Mankind In Its Vanity Keeps Us From Our Sanity
04:45 PM on 12/16/2010
Wrong - we weren't in Vietnam for oil.
04:50 PM on 12/16/2010
But we WERE there to make the warmongers/contractors that contribute to political campaigns richer.