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Don't Ask, Don't Tell Repeal Passes Senate 65-31

First Posted: 12/18/10 11:49 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

Senate Dont Ask Dont Tell

WASHINGTON -- The Senate voted 65-31 on Saturday to end Don't Ask, Don't Tell, defeating a 17-year policy of banning gay and lesbian service members from serving openly in the military. Six Republicans initially crossed the aisle to vote against the policy: Susan Collins (R-Maine), Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska), Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), Scott Brown (R-Mass.), Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) and George Voinovich (R-Ohio).

The Senate vote is a vindication of Obama's decision to push for congressional repeal as opposed to unilateral executive action, though activists note he could have done both.

In the first procedural vote on Saturday morning, 63 senators voted in favor of the bill and 33 against. In the final passage, Sens. John Ensign (R-Nev.) and Richard Burr (R-N.C.) switched their vote to "aye," despite initially voting against moving forward with the bill.

"The important thing today is that 63 senators were on the right side of history," Joe Solmonese, president of the Human Rights Campaign, told HuffPost after the first vote, adding he sees the bill as a "stepping stone to further advances for the gay and lesbian community."

Gay-rights activists owe a small debt to their Latino brethren, as the DREAM Act, which the House and Senate have been considering at the same time, showed the way forward for repeal of Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Roughly a week before a crucial cloture vote failed, said one top aide, Democratic leadership staff saw that the same legislative tactic could be used to bring a standalone version of the repeal bill to the Senate floor as was currently being used to bring DREAM up. For needlessly complex reasons, a bill that comes to the Senate as a "message from the House" faces fewer obstacles to a floor vote than one that originates in the Senate.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) proposed to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) that the House consider moving first. Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) had the same idea.

"Senator Lieberman and Senator Collins determined that they would introduce a bill," Hoyer told HuffPost earlier this week. "I called and talked to a number of people. I then called Senator Lieberman and said 'Joe, my intent will be to talk to Congressman Murphy' -- who's the sponsor of the amendment that was adopted in the defense bill -- 'and put this in as a free standing bill, because we can probably send it over to you more quickly than you can send to us.' And he agreed and we introduced exactly the same bill that they have in the Senate."

The bill passed in the House 250-175 on Dec. 16.

During debate before the cloture vote, Republicans ran through the usual list of arguments against repealing DADT, claiming it would hurt unit cohesion and that troops had not been given an adequate chance to voice their opinions on the bill. A survey on ending DADT was sent to 400,000 service members, at least 100,000 of whom responded. Of those who responded, 70 percent said they would "work together to get the job done" if there was a gay service member in their unit -- and 69 percent said they know or suspect there is a gay service member serving with them already.

Sen. James Inhofe (R-Okla.) said the reason survey results were mostly positive because troops already thought the repeal was "a done deal" because politicians had said they planned to repeal it. Repealing DADT would harm recruitment and retention, he said. "I was shocked at how well this has worked for a long period of time," Inhofe said. "We have a saying in Oklahoma, 'if it ain't broke, don't fix it.' Well, this isn't broke, it's working very well."

Republican senators said their opposition was not related to homophobia or lack of appreciation for those who have served or are serving in the military. "This has nothing to do with the gays and lesbians who have given valuable service to our military," said Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.). "That's a given."

Still, they rejected the idea that the military could adjust seamlessly to a more open policy. "Some people will say this is about civil rights and its time has come. The Marine Corps doesn't have that view," Graham said. "This is about effectiveness on the battle field, not about civil rights."

In the end, though, support for a repeal won out. A number of Democrats made impassioned appeals for the bill in the debate. "I can't think of something more egregious to our fabric, to our military," said Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y). "If you care about national security, if you care about military readiness, you will vote against this corrosive policy."

Now, though, Republicans are threatening that the vote will threaten another effort: ratification of the START Treaty, which supporters say would strengthen national security.

"Some Republicans are saying they're not going to vote for the START Treaty now because we had a vote on the DREAM Act and Don't Ask, Don't Tell," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) after the vote.

President Barack Obama applauded the Senate for moving toward repeal. "By ending 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell,' no longer will our nation be denied the service of thousands of patriotic Americans forced to leave the military, despite years of exemplary performance, because they happen to be gay," he said in a statement. "And no longer will many thousands more be asked to live a lie in order to serve the country they love."

Ryan Grim contributed reporting.

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WASHINGTON -- The Senate voted 65-31 on Saturday to end Don't Ask, Don't Tell, defeating a 17-year policy of banning gay and lesbian service members from serving openly in the military. Six Republican...
WASHINGTON -- The Senate voted 65-31 on Saturday to end Don't Ask, Don't Tell, defeating a 17-year policy of banning gay and lesbian service members from serving openly in the military. Six Republican...
 
 
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04:33 PM on 01/18/2011
• 40% of Canadian voters want to recognize gay marriage
• Seven states have laws that define marriage as a legal union between a man and woman, deny recognition of same-sex marriages solemnized in other states, and make same-sex marriage a violation of public policy. These states are Alabama, Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Missouri
• Six states define marriage as a union between a man and woman and deny recognition of same-sex marriages solemnized in other states. These states are Alaska, Florida, Indiana, Nebraska, South Dakota, and West Virginia
• Four states deny recognition of same-sex marriages solemnized in other states and make such marriages a violation of public policy. These states are Idaho, Louisiana, Montana, and South Carolina
• Three states-Colorado, Kansas, and Tennessee-define marriage as a legal union between a man and women and make same-sex marriage a violation of public policy
• The 15 remaining states have laws that contain only one provision rather than a combination of those discussed above
• Only three of the 37 DOMA states use the federal definition of a "spouse" as a member of the opposite sex who is legally married as husband or wife. These states are Florida, North Dakota, and Texas
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carmenalex
STR8 AGAINST H8
12:15 PM on 02/03/2011
So?
02:48 AM on 02/09/2011
Here is a link to study showing that h0m0ph0bic men get aroused to gay p0 rn, but non h0m0phobic men do not:

http://www­­.ncbi.nlm­.­nih.gov/­pu­bmed/87­720­14
04:32 PM on 01/18/2011
85% of Mississippi voters amend state constitution in 2001
• 76% of Texas voters pass Proposition 2
• 71.6% of Kentucky voters amend state constitution
• 70% of Nebraska voters amend state constitution with Initiative 416
• 69.4% of Nevada voters amend state constitution
• 68% of Alaska’s voters amend state constitution
• 66% of Hawaii legislators amend state constitution, 69% of voters endorsed that amendment
• 61.4% of California voters pass Proposition 22 on March 7, 2000, then again 53% pass Proposition 8 in November 2009
• 57% of Oregon voters reject the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force and amend their state constitution
• 53.4% of Colorado Voters amend state constitution on November 3, 1993
• Oklahoman voters made it a crime for a public official to issue gay marriage licenses
• FEDERAL DOMA law passed on September 21, 1996 ends gay marriage
• “Voters in Arkansas, Georgia, Kentucky, Michigan, Mississippi, Montana, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon and Utah all approved anti-same-sex marriage amendments by double-digit margins”, per CNN
• “Focus On the Family” reported that 35 states had already passed DOMA laws prior to California voters passing Proposition 8 in a landslide victory, making that 36 states
• Voters in Maine and Washington reject their legislator’s initiatives to recognize gay marriage
• 40% of Canadian voters want to recognize gay marriage
02:43 AM on 02/09/2011
You are a cl0set case. You want a big d1 ck.
04:55 AM on 12/25/2010
Does anybody else find it funny that dems are so disgusted with their own policy?
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tman418
Liberal policies work everytime
10:03 AM on 12/29/2010
DADT was the compromise policy, when Bill Clinton wanted to allow gays to serve openly in the military. Republicans wouldn't have any of it.
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11:52 AM on 12/29/2010
If you polled dems here, the majority would probably tell you it was a Bush policy. Either way this will either be a non-issue and be forgotten soon or enlistment will go down and BO opponents will use it against him. But he does throw a bone to his base who will now decide they will vote for him.
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Rasheed Kalifani Knowles
Nun ya
03:26 PM on 12/22/2010
...well sorry Log Cabin Republicans sour grapes for you. Are you big enough to express some gratitude? GOProud sure wasn't.
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12:39 PM on 12/22/2010
“Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping in after it, so that when men come to be undeceived it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale has had its effect.” Jonathan Swift, 1710.
12:25 PM on 12/22/2010
This government finaly got what they wanted, to admit that the united states is nothing but a bunch of lesbians and homos. I hope there proud of thereselves, now now the whole world knows. Aint this a great country, stupid but great.
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RockyMissouri
'You must be carefully taught to hate'...
05:52 PM on 01/02/2011
But what's wrong with YOU????
02:53 AM on 02/09/2011
You are a red.ne.ck m0r.0n
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11:13 AM on 12/22/2010
Here we go, boys and girls...
Step 1-- Drive SecDef Gates to retire with a groundswell of "no confidence", like what Democrats overwhelmed Rumsfeld with in 06;
Step 2-- Announce House Armed Services Committee hearings in 112th Congress on the effects of the repeal of DADT on the good order and discipline and policy changes of DoD and requirements of enacting legislation.
Step 3-- Explore in excruciating detail, Obama's successive SecDef nominee's sexual preferences, tastes, history, and partnerships, during the Senate confirmation process.
Step 4-- Castigate the administration for operating without a SecDef during wartime.

Step 1 underway...
22DEC10
via email
to Bob Gates
SecDef Gates,
Watching the raucous signing hootenanny of DADT[repeal] in the WH this morning, with POTUS standing smug and victorious in front of the USMC flag as he cynically and cruelly wrapped himself in the legends of American warriors, sickened me at heart. Your personal and public efforts to help POTUS and Joe Lieberman substitute their own sexual preferences and political debts for the rest of us, form the centerpiece of your legacy of public employment. That done, it’s time for you to retire, as you promised. Marines have work to do, we have political and moral fundamentals to explain to a new congress, you’ll just be in the way. And I must say, you’ve done enough damage for a lifetime.
A bit of personal advice—Texas A&M should probably not be on your list of potential future sinecures.
Adios.
cc: World
MilVets
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RockyMissouri
'You must be carefully taught to hate'...
05:54 PM on 01/02/2011
You are disgusting.
02:59 AM on 02/09/2011
Too bad bagger, you lost. Bluster all you want. All you've got left are some petty, futile attempts at obstructionism.
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CaliforniaFree
01:28 AM on 12/22/2010
It's very clear that the senate has voted wrong laws into society for the benefits of the few....

We all know the facts that in 1850 the USA Senate VOTED to CONTINUE SLAVERY, Yet many folks out there were CHEERING for this VICTORY.......

You may SCREAM at me or at others for speaking the facts that gays CHOOSE their own personal rich Lifestyle but it's surely evident that your LIES, DECEPTIONS, and TRICKS will be exposed.....

It's amazing we spent BILLIONS of DOLLARS for over 2 YEARS on Sex INSTEAD of CREATING JOBS for us AMERICANS in this GREAT RECESSION!
02:33 PM on 01/03/2011
Please prove gay people choose to be gay...and you can use yourself as an example...at what moment did you DECIDE to NOT be gay? What sexual attractions to members of the same sex do you have currently, but do not act on because you think the 'gay' is bad?
03:04 AM on 02/09/2011
Sexually, California Free is attracted to men. He posts obsessively on gay-themed articles because he is engaging in reaction formation, a psychological defense mechanism.
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CaliforniaFree
01:15 AM on 12/22/2010
Where are the JOBS that were PROMISED?

“Exactly, Our National Security is Totally In Danger Because The ENTIRE WORLD Hate US For IMMORALITY chosen gay lifestyle that few have been PROMOTING. This ADMINISTRA­TION wants to DESTROY this Country and if they LOVED it they would PROTECT it....

But what have they have been doing for the last 2 WHOLE YEARS?”
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justalurker
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02:28 PM on 12/21/2010
That makes 123 promises kept so far by Obama! (politifact.com).
Impressive . Productive . Largely unreported .
04:54 AM on 12/25/2010
Is transparency and open government on that list? I long for those days.
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RockyMissouri
'You must be carefully taught to hate'...
05:58 PM on 01/02/2011
Thank you...!
02:19 PM on 12/21/2010
I'm curious how many people who are for the Don't Ask Don't Tell policy being removed have actually served in the military. How can people make an educated opinion about a policy that does not directly affect them? This is the military's business.
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justalurker
edited my micro-bio
02:27 PM on 12/21/2010
The generals said yes after Obama gave them time to research it (surveys of the military, exploring possible problems, etc.). It is the military's business and the military said they are ready. Congress voted for what the generals recommended.
05:04 PM on 12/21/2010
I was in the military and I was not allowed to be open. I was deployed, saved lives and served 9 years all the while having to hide it and the fact that i had a family? So yes this is military business. Are you in the military? If yes, how would this affect you negatively? If no, what right do you have to even ask the question? I knew several others who also served while living in fear of being exposed and dishonerably discharged. And I would say 99 percent of them were excellent soldiers. I myself excelled in the service and would have loved to stay in but feared it. I will go out on the limb and with an educated opinion as this policy directly affected me and say that its a good thing its gone. Thanks for your concern.
10:56 PM on 12/21/2010
What would be a good idea now - though I don't know how the GOP will take it - is to offer amnesty to all former soldiers that were dishonorably discharged because of their sexual orientation. At the very least this "amnesty" should consist of changing the discharges to "honorable".
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e paw
Ol' Blood and Guts
11:17 AM on 12/21/2010
Haha! That was the best B-Day ever! Go OBAMA, and you people doubted he'd get it done.
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David Durham
Just a guy who tries to stay informed and stand fo
11:16 AM on 12/21/2010
This was another step in the right direction for the great 'American Experiment'. The concept that all men (I think we can agree that the term men is now acknowledged to include women) are created equal as outlined in the Declaration of Independence has had a rocky road toward realization but we are getting there. There's more work to be done certainly and high walls yet to climb, but the Senate's vote this weekend shows the world that the great experiment continues its stumbling course onward. As a straight (but I hope not narrow) American I am today very proud of my country.
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Bonez1
Live Long & Prosper To ALL!
10:15 AM on 12/21/2010
Live Long & Prosper

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

i don't see where it states "except the homosexuals"..instead, it states "all men"!
11:08 AM on 12/21/2010
It does say " all men"....but....neither does it mention herterosexuals. The Commodant of the USMC claims the potential for dissension in the ranks, especially among front line combat trroops could lead to casualties. Would it not be a shame, if even one American soldier ( Gay or strait) died because someone wanted to express his/her sexuality. Like who cares what you do in the privacy of your hooch, when bullets and rpg`s are flying ?
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e paw
Ol' Blood and Guts
11:19 AM on 12/21/2010
There's no proof that gays serving openly will cause any dissention. Besides, it will encourage tolerance. And I think troops are more endangered by losing useful members of their team.
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TBJ
Irrelevent Blurb
12:46 PM on 12/21/2010
Serving openly doesn't mean expressing one's sexuality. It just means they don't have to hide it or lie about it.

The one's that care about what people do "in the privacy of your hooch" seem to be the homophobic ones.
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Charles Richard Brown
10:00 AM on 12/21/2010
NAYs ---31
Alexander (R-TN)
Barrasso (R-WY)
Bennett (R-UT)
Bond (R-MO)
Brownback (R-KS)
Chambliss (R-GA)
Coburn (R-OK)
Cochran (R-MS)
Corker (R-TN)
Cornyn (R-TX)
Crapo (R-ID)
DeMint (R-SC)
Enzi (R-WY)
Graham (R-SC)
Grassley (R-IA)
Hutchison (R-TX)
Inhofe (R-OK)
Isakson (R-GA)
Johanns (R-NE)
Kyl (R-AZ)
LeMieux (R-FL)
Lugar (R-IN)
McCain (R-AZ)
McConnell (R-KY)
Risch (R-ID)
Roberts (R-KS)
Sessions (R-AL)
Shelby (R-AL)
Thune (R-SD)
Vitter (R-LA)
Wicker (R-MS)
Not Voting - 4
Bunning (R-KY)
Gregg (R-NH)
Hatch (R-UT)
Manchin (D-WV)

With the exception of one Democrat not voting from West Virginia, Look at these representatives of our Constitution who refused to vote for EQUAL RIGHTS for everyone.

Shame on you, Republicans. You should charged with TREASON.
11:13 AM on 12/21/2010
Treason ?? You gotta be kidding ? Clinton, who originally passed thru the DADT, therefore would also be guilty of treason ??
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e paw
Ol' Blood and Guts
11:22 AM on 12/21/2010
What the hell is not voting?! They're too afraid to even come out and say they think homosexuals are unfit to serve. Afraid of the history books. Wow. And they consider themselves fit to serve their country.
11:59 AM on 12/21/2010
Maybe...they are making like the O`Man......better n`; Present !!