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State Budget Crisis 'Largest Threat To The U.S. Economy' (VIDEO)

The Huffington Post   First Posted: 12/20/10 09:57 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

State Budget Crisis

The future looks bleak for state and local government budgets.

Even as states struggle to cut services, many could soon be in the position of New Jersey, California and Illinois, facing billion-dollar deficits that, unlike the Federal deficit, must be filled. And there's no easy way to repair the budget: When local governments' problems worsen, it becomes more expensive to borrow money. New Jersey governor Chris Christie, who has ruthlessly slashed funding for state programs, might soon see other states following his lead, 60 Minutes reports.

The debt markets tend to punish the weak. When municipal bonds seem risky, investors demand higher yields, forcing already strapped governments to pay more for loans. The higher cost of borrowing spurs yet more borrowing, the Wall Street Journal notes, creating a vicious cycle for local government budgets. If the local governments default in large enough numbers, the bond markets could spread the pain to healthy governments as well, initiating a large-scale crisis, the WSJ notes.

"The first words out of my mouth are usually an apology," Illinois comptroller Dan Hynes told 60 Minutes.

The state is six months behind paying about $5 billion in bills, Hynes said. States across the nation face a similar squeeze. California is looking at a $19 billion deficit. New Jersey will face a $10 billion deficit next year, 60 Minutes reports.

Christie has carved more than a fourth from New Jersey's budget. In addition to slashing education funds, he infamously killed a tunnel project, which many said would have been a boon for state's economy.

"The bottom line is I don't have the money," Christie told 60 Minutes. "I can't pay people for those jobs if I don't have the money to pay them."

In September, prominent analyst Meredith Whitney, who made her name predicting Citigroup's troubles, compared municipal governments to banks pre-crisis.

"The similarities between the states and the banks are extreme, to the extent that states have been spending dramatically, growing leverage dramatically," Whitney said in September. "You borrow from future dollars to benefit the present, basically generational robbery."

Bond markets can exacerbate the problem, as investors help push state funding costs up. "It's a downward spiral," George Rusnak, national director of fixed income for Wells Fargo, told the WSJ.

In her 60 Minutes interview, Whitney issued an even more stark summation of the crisis. "It has tentacles as wide as anything I've seen," Whitney said. "I think next to housing this is the single most important issue in the United States, and certainly the largest threat to the U.S. economy."

WATCH New Jersery governor Christie on 60 Minutes:

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The future looks bleak for state and local government budgets. Even as states struggle to cut services, many could soon be in the position of New Jersey, California and Illinois, facing billion-dol...
The future looks bleak for state and local government budgets. Even as states struggle to cut services, many could soon be in the position of New Jersey, California and Illinois, facing billion-dol...
 
 
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06:07 AM on 01/13/2011
Its not just here its Japan Europe its the whole smeggin capitalist system that is falling down , Capitalism is good when properly administered/regulated but we insisted on growth more than stability we treat something finite like money as infinite we allowed the rich more wealth than they need or deserve when they got more money it motivated the employee who wanted more money a vicious circle ! . An unsustainable practice as we made more we spent it on luxury goods instead of saving or putting back into the community as tax revenue , the belief that we must spend too grow the economy more creating an society based on the faulty concept of consumerism as an viable economic tool .
07:50 PM on 01/11/2011
Amazing how Huff Po Moderators block Conservative views, while allowing Progressives to post missives which are often filled with expletives and hateful rhetoric.

Perhaps we do need a Fairness Doctrine, and it needs to be applied here. I've enjoyed reading the Progressive slant on things here at the Huff Po and posting Comments. But given the bigotry and double standards on display here ... well ... I'm going somewhere else for awhile,

You've just lost a frequent reader, 3 of my accounts have been locked so far, I've had enough for awhile.
06:47 PM on 01/11/2011
It's sad and hypocritical for all these bloggers on here and the Huff Po itself to constantly demean Christie for his weight. NJ and other states are in dire financial straights. Gov. Christie is one of the few Public Officials taking the issue seriously, taking real action to protect the future of his state and its residents.

Amazing how any small cut or decrease in the Public Sector his opposed with such viciousness and selfishness.
03:32 PM on 12/22/2010
No issue here. The goverment won't let the muni bond market fail. If they can bail out the mortgages (fannie, freddie), AIG, and GM, they can bailout the municipalities....... ughh
10:46 PM on 12/21/2010
They hollowed out our manufacturing base in pursuit of globalist theories and deregulated everything that wasn't nailed down and hollowed out the government in the process .. surprise, surprise
12:11 PM on 12/24/2010
Repeating that ad infinitum doesn't makeit true
07:49 PM on 01/12/2011
Doesn't make it false either.
09:05 PM on 12/21/2010
While Christie wants to act as though he can simply not honor the contractual obligations of public employees it is not that easy. Follow the cases in Missouri where unions took municipalities to court and won at the trial level, the appellate level, and at the supreme court of the state. The municipalities had a choice pay (pass a tax) or loose assets. One community was threatened with loosing the city owned utility which could be sold. They passed a tax. St. Louis also same story. Threatened with loss of community assets passed a tax to fund the pensions. Christie is just another lawyer who thinks he can run over public employees and gloss over the fact that the state did not fund the pensions to the actuarial required amount for 13 years. Public employee could own the JerseyTurnpike. That would go a long ways to funding the pensions. Don't sweat it just get a better lawyer that knows what he is doing.
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LunaPark
Don't believe it until it's officially denied
10:03 PM on 12/21/2010
"We can no longer live in a society where the public employees are the haves and the taxpayers who foot the bill are the have-nots," Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker

Municipalities brutilized by the unions should just go bankrupt. It's not worth the fight. The public shouldn't have to be shakled to debt so union members can live comfortably. Let the contracts expire. Let the unions take the Jersey Turnpike. People are waking up to the public union coup. There'll be a huge union backlash.
12:16 PM on 12/24/2010
So I should have to pay even more taxes to pay for the criminally negligent management of the municipaliti. No thanks. Maybe we quit wasting money on the drug war, an utter joke, instead.
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RMForbes
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06:11 PM on 12/21/2010
The real issue with taxes is not the rates, it's the special deals given to the rich and powerful while the rest of us get screwed. If these politicians really wanted tho solve the budget issue they would eliminate all special tax rates and have everyone pay the same lower marginal income tax rates on all of their income no matter the source. If you believe basic needs shouldn't be taxed, simply raise the minimum taxable income from its current ridiculously low $400/yr to around the poverty level. If you are earning poverty level income why should you be required to file returns and contribute to income tax payroll withholding. Processing these returns costs the IRS and state tax authorities millions of dollars to just return income income for the nearly half of American workers that earn poverty level wages or less. Let's do something about the very wealthiest paying the same effective tax rates as those of us just barely beat the poverty level.
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dfranz
With Liberty and Justice for all
01:12 PM on 12/21/2010
Do the people of NJ making less than $400,000 a year like Christie? After he orchestrated tax breaks for everyone making over $400,000 a year, now he can't afford to pay state workers? Sounds strangely like what is in process with Social Security today. People like him because he sounds so self assured. I guess you could call a bully self assured.
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kyrose777
12:06 PM on 12/21/2010
I am one of those that receive a state pension. I traded a career as an RN in public health instead of a significantly higher paying job in the private sector. I saw the lower pay as paying for benefits.This is the path I chose. Working in public health is as challenging as any in health care. I can't believe there are folks who think those of us who do this doesn't deserve our pensions. They made their choices. The states need to fund approp. what it promises to it's employees. The States are in this mess for the choices they have made for years. Do Not Blame the Workers Christie scrooge!
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Brokenduck
The Loyal Opposition.
12:35 PM on 12/21/2010
I just left a long post about GOP propaganda (my fingers are very tired).....anyway, I am not surprised that the right is able to focus debate so thoroughly on public pensions as the great boogeyman of the economic crisis in which we find ourselves. Out here in California, it's just as bad, if not worse. I swear, this issue is like a remote-controlled toy car that the right can run, spin, stop, and start in any way they choose. And most people just sit and gawk in amazement.
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kyrose777
04:30 PM on 12/21/2010
I agree. In the last 10 years, the GOPs have been the biggest players in the game. Now, they cry that it's the average guy on the street that has caused most of this mess. What was that song "going down that wrong road again"? Hey, public pensions today, then Social Security 2012 for the right wing to vilify.
02:33 PM on 12/21/2010
That would be fine and well except for the fact that government employees are now earning far more than private sector employees. By the way, nobody is blaming the workers. We blame the left wing politicians and union bosses who (much like the Wallstreeters) used government connections to negotiate sweetheart deals for these special interest groups. These pensions aren't sustainable, plain and simple. Within 5-10 years when most of the baby boomers are retired, New Jersey would have to spend more than their entire current budget to fund the pension liabilities. When an employee can contribute $30k to their retirement and get over $1 million in benefits, that's not sustainable by the tax base. New Jersey has been losing businesses already because their tax liabilities are too high.
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kyrose777
04:37 PM on 12/21/2010
It's really lame to blame the left wing politicians for all of this mess. Both sides are at fault but the GOP dudes have been in control for enough time to accept the greatest blame. Guess you think the current US tax code is sustainable?
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Hank10303
Reality Check
10:24 AM on 12/21/2010
As a New Yorker I've seen across the river and watched what has transpired over the years in New Jersey. That state has a two fold problem, both of which New York has but it doesn't have the one thing New Yorkers love to hate and hate to love.....Wall Street and a gambling republican legislature.
Former republican Governor Christine Whitman gambled the States pension fund on the states bond market. The Dow, doing what it does, fluctuated, crashed and is just rebounding; but the bonds were sold in 1997. The state borrowed against those bonds and big to provide a massive tax cut under Whitman and just like the Federal government now suffers New Jersey was the warning sign. What occurred in New Jersey was a small scale version of what happened with our exploding Federal debt under Bush. The source of all this blame is on republican economic policies THAT DON'T WORK.
 
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Brokenduck
The Loyal Opposition.
12:38 PM on 12/21/2010
Thank you....but you will never hear this part of the debate because of the GOP propaganda archipelago, which even has it's tentacles on programs like 60 Minutes.
02:40 PM on 12/21/2010
Both parties suck and can't manage our money properly if their lives depended on it. That's why many on the right want to limit how much they spend and how much of our money they get.

You are wrong to say the blame is on "Republican policies". In fact, a major part of the blame can be pointed to Republicans acting like Liberals. Whitman raised pensions by 9%, even as the dot com bubble was bursting. Here's the story of the bipartisan mess left in the wake of years of inept management by both parties of our government.

http://blog.nj.com/njv_editorial_page/2009/08/bipartisan_blame_for_nj_bond_r.html
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moose and squirrel
Very soon we would both be completely twisted...
04:57 AM on 12/21/2010
This is what happens when too much wealth is accumulated at the top.
02:43 PM on 12/21/2010
There's hardly any wealth being created in New Jersey. Anyone starting a business would be insane to base it in New Jersey.
kmichal2000
just netflix Burzynski
04:32 AM on 12/21/2010
Illinois....isn't there someone from Chicago that has been in the news for a while now?
He likes to spend money...what is his name.......
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tony wise
04:51 AM on 12/21/2010
GWB III?
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
06:34 AM on 12/21/2010
Finally got one right.
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Paul Andrews
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06:50 AM on 12/21/2010
that was funny tony
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Paul Andrews
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06:49 AM on 12/21/2010
The Money spender and his wife Michelle
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WasteNJ
All Out Of Bubble Gum.
08:44 AM on 12/21/2010
So funny that you seem to forget where all that debt actually came from in the first place. You know, since we had the surplus. I understand the confusion, that was back before you guys took your uniforms off.
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russ Milnes
09:56 AM on 12/21/2010
What about the gop and their tax breaks for the top, what about funding every war since the Spanish American war
01:35 AM on 12/21/2010
Unfortunately, at a certain point, the money does indeed run out.

Still...to be giving tax breaks to the richest (and Yes they were given in NJ too), is just a sad commentary of where we are...Money running out...yet somehow still enough to give the super rich a break. Not a good sign.
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scottymac11
Facta non verba
02:03 AM on 12/21/2010
The money doesn't really run out. It is supposed to circulate. Not collect at the top hoarded by those with to much money as it is. I know some will think. To much money? Not possible. The expression about the dangers of having to much of a good thing comes to mind.
08:40 AM on 12/21/2010
when gov mcgreevy increased taxes on the upper income brackets in NJ revenues dropped from the people leaving the state
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01:16 AM on 12/21/2010
How sad is it that a state that taxes it's citizens to death can't even pay their bills? The same can be said of California.
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
06:35 AM on 12/21/2010
lol 'taxes it's citizens to death' we are so undertaxed it's funny.
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uniquindividual
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12:15 PM on 12/21/2010
If CA had not been losing 20 cents of every tax dollar paid to the feds to states that are net takers from the Fed Gov. (for decades) the CA state budget would be balanced.

http://www.taxfoundation.org/research/show/266.html
05:51 AM on 12/22/2010
Not to mention Enron killed us.
12:50 AM on 12/21/2010
According to US Debt Clock, hre’s what 2015 will be like given the current trajectory of US borrowing.

- US national debt per taxpayer $200k
- Total US debt per family $748k
- Total US unfunded liabilities per US taxpayer $1.2MM

http://www.planbeconomics.com/2010/12/20/2015-total-unfunded-liabilities-per-us-taxpayer-1-2mm/
12:58 PM on 12/21/2010
F&F ~ Unfortunately, too many people haven't a clue what is going on around them. On the other hand maybe that's a good thing!