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Arizona hospital loses Catholic status over surgery

AMANDA LEE MYERS   12/21/10 04:58 PM ET   AP

Arizona Catholic Hospital Abortion

PHOENIX — The Roman Catholic Diocese of Phoenix stripped a major hospital of its affiliation with the church Tuesday because of a surgery that ended a woman's pregnancy to save her life.

Bishop Thomas Olmsted called the 2009 procedure an abortion and said St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center – recognized internationally for its neurology and neurosurgery practices – violated ethical and religious directives of the national Conference of Catholic Bishops.

"In the decision to abort, the equal dignity of mother and her baby were not both upheld," Olmsted said at a news conference announcing the decision. "The mother had a disease that needed to be treated. But instead of treating the disease, St. Joseph's medical staff and ethics committee decided that the healthy, 11-week-old baby should be directly killed."

Linda Hunt, president of St. Joseph's, said doctors performed a necessary procedure on a patient who was getting worse by the minute and was in imminent danger of death.

"If we are presented with a situation in which a pregnancy threatens a woman's life, our first priority is to save both patients. If that is not possible, we will always save the life we can save, and that is what we did in this case," Hunt said. "Morally, ethically, and legally, we simply cannot stand by and let someone die whose life we might be able to save."

St. Joseph's does not receive direct funding from the church, but in addition to losing its Catholic endorsement, the 697-bed hospital will no longer be able to celebrate Mass and must remove the Blessed Sacrament from its chapel.

Hunt said the hospital will comply with Olmsted's decision but it will continue to operate under Catholic guidelines.

"We will continue in the Catholic heritage through words and deeds," she said. "We have removed the Blessed Sacrament from our tabernacle, we will have no Masses, but priests will see patients. We are still a hospital."

The woman who underwent the procedure is in her 20s and had a history of abnormally high blood pressure when she learned of her pregnancy. After she was admitted to the hospital with worsening symptoms, doctors determined her risk of death was nearly 100 percent.

The hospital's ethics team concluded the pregnancy could be ended under the church's ethical directives because "the goal was not to end the pregnancy but save the mother's life," the hospital said.

Olmsted's announcement came after months of talks between the Diocese, the hospital and the hospital's parent company, Catholic Healthcare West.

Dr. Charles Alfano, chief medical officer at the hospital and an obstetrician there, said Olmsted was asking the impossible from the hospital.

"Specifically the fact that he requested we admit the procedure performed was an abortion and that it was a violation of the ethical and religious directives and that we would not perform such a procedure in the future," he said. "We could not agree to that. We acted appropriately."

Olmsted said the talks eroded his confidence about St. Joseph's and Catholic Healthcare West's commitment to the church's ethical and religious directives. "They have not addressed in an adequate manner the scandal caused by the abortion," he said.

He said he recently learned that Catholic Healthcare West also is responsible for contraceptive counseling, voluntary sterilization, and other practices he said violate the ethical and religious directives.

Hunt, who also is the service area president of Catholic Healthcare West of Arizona, said the hospital had to offer such services under Arizona's Medicaid program, but did so through a third party.

St. Joseph's is home to the Barrow Neurological Institute, where musician Bret Michaels was treated after he suffered a brain hemorrhage in April. The institute recently established the Muhammad Ali Parkinson Center.

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05:05 PM on 01/20/2011
Kudo's to St. Josephs.
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ratcityreprobate
11:45 AM on 01/05/2011
New Headline: Arizona Hospital Lucks Out.
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FlangeSqueal
Hip urban unionista - fighting ignorance !
06:17 PM on 01/04/2011
This silly priest is the reason so many Catholics are staying home each Sunday in droves - the church doesn't speak to anyone but the wanna-be evangelical Baptist freaks that worship pre-birth ooze as some sort of GodHead, but have little knowledge of what to do with profoundly retarded or misshapen, doomed deformed and demented - never to get better children. Their membership in the RepubliKlan Party has blinded them to the reality that sick children that have NO HOPE should not be born in the first place, since the RepubliKlan have no plans for support of them or their strapped parents.

His place is assured -in the depths of the Hottest parts of Hell.
05:06 PM on 01/20/2011
I don't particularly care for the vicious sentiments at the end of your comment but the rest of it is spot on.  I'm one of those Catholics who feels betrayed by the Vatican.  It's sad sad sad. 
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separatingwheatfromchaff
08:35 AM on 01/04/2011
After mulling this over I have come to a different conclusion,we need laws passed that won't allow any religious organization to influence any healthcare providers treatment of patients.It's absurd to think that under certain circumstances a loved one could die because of some religious nincompoop.
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Grada3784
Dogmatic Dictators, believers or not, not welcome
07:10 PM on 01/03/2011
Never let your sense of morals prevent you from doing what's right.

Issac Asimov
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
03:14 PM on 01/03/2011
Does this priest understand that an 11 week old fetus cannot survive outside the mother's womb? The medical staff says the probability of death of the mother was 100% - So if the mother died, the fetus would have died as well.

This is why priests should not be making medical or public policy. What a nut. Kill a woman for his magic.... what a pathetic excuse for a human being.....

He's as bad as the jehovahs who kill their kids because they refuse them blood products.

He's as bad as the christian scientists and mormons who let their kids die of an appendix.....

Religion is evil.
05:07 PM on 01/20/2011
No, religion isn't evil.  Man's interpretation of it is. 
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CoastalNC
Good thoughts create good things
12:39 PM on 01/03/2011
I'd say "good riddance" and keep on keeping on....
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eagle17765
09:46 AM on 01/03/2011
Catholic "Death Panels"
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ChicagoBob
Save the Earth-It's the only planet with chocolate
01:21 AM on 01/03/2011
St. Joe's, "violated ethical and religious directives of the national Conference of Catholic Bishops."

So, the national Conference of Catholic Bishops can determine the best medical procedures for any and all patients presenting in Catholic hospitals now and in the future?

I would rather rely on the doctor in attendance. Someone who knows the particulars of my condition.
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
03:15 PM on 01/03/2011
I think some of the people who make these decisions should be held accountable for them in the criminal courts when patients die. This is murder 1.
05:08 PM on 01/20/2011
Yeah, and these are the guys who are covering up for abusive priests.  Sickening. 
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lrlrlr
11:24 PM on 01/02/2011
Without invasion of privacy, how did the church know how near death the mother was?
Medical records are private. I fail to see how the hospital could have had a meaningful review of this case with the church without violating patient privacy rights.

Privacy was the basis for the Roe v Wade decision.
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eagle17765
09:46 AM on 01/03/2011
GREAT POST!
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
03:16 PM on 01/03/2011
Priests are above the law and not subject to HIPA or any other law. :) lol

These people need to be tried for murder when their next patient dies.
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Steve Rockett
09:18 PM on 01/02/2011
A country doctor was asked what his fees were to deliver a baby, to which he responded, "either nothing or 300 dollars, it depends." Depends on what? "If the father asks the condition of his wife first, then it costs nothing, but if he asks about the baby first, then it is 300 dollars. I figure that if a man is in love then he is thinking of the safety and health of his wife and everyone benefits."
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Klarsonent
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04:40 PM on 01/02/2011
The correct decision is as follows: "If we are presented with a situation in which a pregnancy threatens a woman's life, our first priority is to save both patients. If that is not possible, we will always save the life we can save, and that is what we did in this case," Hunt said."

And yet, "Bishop Thomas Olmsted called the 2009 procedure an abortion and said St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center – recognized internationally for its neurology and neurosurgery practices – violated ethical and religious directives of the national Conference of Catholic Bishops."

My question is this: If this was a violation of ethical and religious directives, WHAT ABOUT ALL OF THE CATHOLIC PRIESTS who molested thousands of children and HAVE NEVER BEEN PROSECUTED IN A COURT OF LAW? Instead, they were passed from parish to parish and the bishops hid their crimes and pretended that nothing was wrong.

They all should be brought to justice, including the bishops that hid these heinous crimes. But, each one will eventually meet their maker at the moment of their death; and then, the words of Jesus will be realized: "If anyone leads one of these little ones into sin, it will be as though a great millstone were tied around their neck and they be hurled into the sea."
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
03:18 PM on 01/03/2011
If they have a policy like this that demands death for women - those who institute and carry out the policy should be tried for murder. Further - a hospital that has a policy to kill women for no reason other than religion, shouldn't get federal funding, or have medical accredidation.
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VOTER
Freedom from fear - the philosophy of human rights
10:07 AM on 01/02/2011
My family experienced a Catholic Medical Board reviewing my father's
Living Will. No one should have to go through the same procedure. These doctors were
callous and  lied to us. They claimed my dad's Living Will was not legal since
 it was 5 years old and he hadn't updated it. Wrong.
They knew it and at the end of the ordeal they chose to
honor my father's wishes. I believe my sisters and I held our own against them
and they knew we would not go away quietly. They were right.

I don't recall if this Phoenix article was on HP's Main Page but I sure hope so.
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
03:19 PM on 01/03/2011
Sue them. :) It will help them to figure it out quicker next time.
01:43 AM on 01/02/2011
"In the decision to abort, the equal dignity of mother and her baby were not both upheld," Olmsted said

This is either an improvement, or simply a restating of the church's old attitude that if there must be an abortion to save the life of the mother that it NOT allowed. She must be left to die. OR, as they would say it is in God's hands. He will decide whether the mother is to die or not, but under no circumstance can the baby be aborted. It is exactly like those(Seventh Day Adventists, I think) who say there can be no blood transfusion, it is up to the will of God whether the person dies or not. It is also exactly like those snake handlers religions who say if the snake bites you and you die it is due to the will of God.

This attitude is very emblematic of the church's 2000yr old attitude toward women. As a Catholic I say that women are half of the Family of Man, God's creation. Those who disrespect or dismiss women also do the same to the Creator. Via some very specious reasoning the church, really the Vatican/pope, feels that women are some kind of fourth class citizens after the fetus,men and children. Because Christ did not associate with women, all of the Apostles were men. They do not seem to take into account that Christ's behavior reflected the very normal behavior of Jewish men in those times.
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Ed Baker
All Hail Big Mother
03:21 PM on 01/03/2011
It's no secret that most priests are misogynists.

Anyone who lets a woman die - and in this case the child would die with her - should be tried for murder 1 - death penalty attached.
06:10 AM on 01/01/2011
Let's see.  What could be worse for a hospital?  Losing its Catholic affiliation, or losing its reputation and its certification?
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Steve Rockett
09:10 PM on 01/02/2011
Actually, this is a great advertisement for the hospital.
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SOD
As kind as possible and as unkind as necessary.
09:15 PM on 01/02/2011
That depends on the hospital.