iPhone app iPad app Android phone app Android tablet app More

Neil Abercrombie Aiming To Release Proof In Battle Against Birthers

Neil Abercrombie Birthers

MARK NIESSE   12/28/10 09:34 PM ET   AP

HONOLULU — Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie wants to find a way to release more information about President Barack Obama's Hawaii birth and dispel conspiracy theories that he was born elsewhere.

Abercrombie was a friend of Obama's parents and knew him as a child, and is deeply troubled by the effort to cast doubt on the president's citizenship.

The newly elected governor will ask the state attorney general's office about what can be done to put an end to questions about Obama's birth documentation from Aug. 4, 1961, spokeswoman Donalyn Dela Cruz said Tuesday.

"He had a friendship with Mr. Obama's parents, and so there is a personal issue at hand," Dela Cruz said. "Is it going to be done immediately? No, the first thing on our list is the economy."

It's unclear what Abercrombie could do because Hawaii's privacy laws have long barred the release of a certified birth certificate to anyone who doesn't have a tangible interest.

Hawaii's health director said last year and in 2008 that she had seen and verified Obama's original vital records, and birth notices in two Honolulu newspapers were published within days of Obama's birth at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu.

So-called "birthers" claim Obama is ineligible to be president because they say there's no proof he was born in the United States, with many of the skeptics questioning whether he was actually born in Kenya, his father's home country.

"What bothers me is that some people who should know better are trying to use this for political reasons," Abercrombie told the Los Angeles Times last week. "Maybe I'm the only one in the country that could look you right in the eye right now and tell you, 'I was here when that baby was born.'"

Abercrombie was unavailable for additional comment Tuesday because he was vacationing on Maui, Dela Cruz said.

The Obama campaign issued a certificate of live birth in 2008, an official document from the state showing the president's birth date, city and name, along with his parents' names and races. The certificate doesn't list the name of the hospital where he was born or the physician who delivered him, information collected by the state as part of its vital records.

Abercrombie, originally from New York, befriended Obama's parents at the University of Hawaii after he moved here in 1959, the same year the islands became a state.

Abercrombie, 72, has said he remembers seeing Obama as a child with his parents at social events, although he acknowledged that he didn't see his parents with their newborn son at the hospital.

The number of requests for Obama's birth information increased this month as the Obama family prepared to vacation in Hawaii.

The Department of Health had received 27 requests for the president's birth information this month as of last Thursday, up from 16 in November, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

Information requests rose despite a new state law allowing officials to ignore persistent and repetitive inquiries, a law that has been used about six times by the department, Okubo said.

"It's just a few people, and some of their requests are the same," she said. "The requests fluctuate from month to month."

Nearly all birth certificate information seekers are from the mainland United States, with requests rarely coming from Hawaii residents, said Cathy Takase, acting director for the state Office of Information Practices.

Takase usually responds to appeals for Obama's birth records by telling requesters that the information they're seeking is contained in records protected by statute.

FOLLOW HUFFPOST POLITICS
Subscribe to the HuffPost Hill newsletter!
HONOLULU — Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie wants to find a way to release more information about President Barack Obama's Hawaii birth and dispel conspiracy theories that he was born elsewhere.
HONOLULU — Democratic Gov. Neil Abercrombie wants to find a way to release more information about President Barack Obama's Hawaii birth and dispel conspiracy theories that he was born elsewhere.
Filed by Elyse Siegel  | 
 
 
  • Comments
  • 1,161
  • Pending Comments
  • 0
  • View FAQ
Comments are closed for this entry
View All
Favorites
Highlights
Recency  | 
Popularity
Page: 1 2 3 4 5  Next ›  Last »  (15 total)
03:55 PM on 01/22/2011
Just in, the birth certificate cannot be found. It is said to be lost somewhere in the archives. what BS Obama could put this to rest very easily by allowing access to the Gov of Hawaii. he won't do it because it isn't there...
02:34 PM on 01/21/2011
Abercrombie did a great job didn't he?

Talk about writing a check his backside couldn't cash.
Boopsie2008
Hold the Vision-Trust the Process: Obama/Biden
11:09 PM on 01/20/2011
"So-called "birthers" claim Obama is ineligible to be president because they say there's no proof he was born in the United States, with many of the skeptics questioning whether he was actually born in Kenya, his father's home country."

The birthers haven't mastered the Constitution. It actually doesn't even matter if President Obama was born outside the United States. 12 U.S.C. Section 1401 provides that a child born outside the United States of parents one of whom is a U.S. citizen and one of whom isn't, is a U.S. citizen if the parent who is the U.S. citizen resided in the United States for a period of five years before the birth, two of which had to be after the age of 14. Barack Obama's mom was 18 years old when she had him, and resided in the state of Hawaii for the required period before his birth.

It also doesn't matter if Governor Ambercrombie is unable to find much in the way of old records in the state archives. Barack Obama has an official certification from a state of the United States, and that is prima facie proof of his citizenship.

For a good laugh, see a spoof column by comedian Andy Borowitz on how the birthers, as a last resort, claim that Hawaii isn't even a state:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-borowitz/birthers-challenge-hawaii_b_802149.html
photo
HUFFPOST PUNDIT
TeaLady005
02:32 PM on 01/20/2011
Ooops! 3 weeks after announcing he was going to silence the BC doubters, the Hawaii governor now says he can not find the famous missing document!?  Isn't he aware the previous  Hawaii governor said she had it "locked" in a state vault?
http://www.westernjournalism.com/hawaii-governor-claims-record-of-obamas-birth-exists-in-archives-but-cant-produce-the-vital-document/
01:14 PM on 01/19/2011
Can't Obama just give him approval to release any documentation he has on this subject? It seems strange that a person does not have control over their own birth records and that they are under the sole control of the State? Also doesn't the entire nation have a tangible interest in the release of all available documents on this subject. This seems like it should be the easiest thing in the world to deal with and yet the courts, governers, military personal and regular citizens are on different pages on this subject. Sad that Obama and the combined resources of the United States at his disposal don't have the legal authoirty or will power to work with Hawaii on this subject.
This user has chosen to opt out of the Badges program
photo
12:20 PM on 01/19/2011
To date, Abercrombie's efforts have proven nothing except that indeed, Obama may NOT have been born in Hawaii.
Chuckle!

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
Rick Shreiner
Like EVERYONE else, I am UNIQUE . . .
04:58 PM on 12/31/2010
Just to clear this up, once and for all:
Location of birth is decided by the state where you are born.
If a state is willing to back you up by issuing a valid birth certificate accepted within that state, [whether long or short form], then you are a resident of that state, AT BIRTH.
And since the state is repsonsible for maintaining the birth records of everybody born within that state, it is NOT a question for any other state, or the federal government.
That would be like Louisiana refusing to honor a Texas drivers license. Or New York refusing to honor a marriage performed in Michigan.
States do not have the right to "pick and choose" which marriages they will honor. Nor does any state or the federal government have the right to question a documented birth verified by a stated issued certificate of [live] birth.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
RapidProf
02:07 PM on 01/03/2011
Sounds simple enough. I'm sure that'll stop the idiocy . . . NOT.
02:36 PM on 01/21/2011
You mean the type where a loud mouth liberal governor promises to prove something and then has to back track when it just isn't there?
06:48 PM on 12/30/2010
Barry Soetero lived in Indonesia as a child, from 1967 to 1971, with his mother and stepfather and has acknowledged attending a Muslim school. To have attended school in Indonesia during that time you had to be an Indonesian citizen. Indonesia did not allow dual citizenship, to attend an Indonesian school he had to renounce his US citizenship.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
RapidProf
02:17 PM on 01/03/2011
Wrong. Do more research.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
chris2fer
Voting is like driving R for backward D is forward
10:08 PM on 12/29/2010
Dude love your jeans.
08:24 PM on 12/29/2010
The main problem with the Birther's theory that Obama was secretly born in Kenya is that although Obama did travel to Kenya (as an adult after his father died) and he does have family there, THERE IS NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER that his MOTHER WAS IN KENYA EVER! Which would have made the act of childbirth VERY, VERY DIFFICULT!

Furthermore, there is NO DOUBT whatsoever that his mother was an American, so even if his mother had wanted to secretly sneak into Kenya (without ever leaving any record of her trip and elluding both American & Kenyan custom officials there and back) so that her son could be secretly born in Kenya (for some bizarre reason), even if she was able to pull off such a feat, OBAMA would STILL be a US citizen simply by virtue of the FACT that his mother was a natural born US citizen who was born and raised in the US. It doesn't matter where your children are born, if at least one of your parents is a US citizen and you live in the US, then you are a US citizen.

John McCain was actually born in Germany, while his father (a US citizen) was in the army stationed overseas.
09:30 PM on 12/29/2010
John McCain was born in Panama...
photo
sentpacking
sophisticated hick
11:27 PM on 12/29/2010
Can we deport him?
This comment has been removed due to violations of our [Guidelines]
05:00 PM on 12/29/2010
Maybe once he's cleared up this controversy, the governor will have time to investigate Bigfoot claims.
photo
esseff44
mini-macro-bio
04:52 PM on 12/29/2010
While I was searching to see if any states other than Hawaii have provisions for registering out-of-state births, I found a interesting website that has done the heavy lifting of refuting all the lies of WND which is the source for the birthers' disinformation campaign.

http://conwebwatch.tripod.com/stories/2009/wndbirthlies.html

Clear, detailed and gives authoritative sources.
photo
HUFFPOST COMMUNITY MODERATOR
Sunnyd2035
We only have the one planet ....
04:13 PM on 12/29/2010
Ok Birthers, just chew on this...

We have a 50 year conspiracy to elect the first black president... or he was born in Hawaii....
Now which one sounds like you have a tinfoil hat on and which one sounds reasonable.....
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
roguescr1be
beLIEve
04:05 PM on 12/29/2010
dude...let it go.

If NSA, FBI, CIA, CBO, NAACP, KKK, BBQ, BBC, and a bunch of other acronyms can't find this so-called "proof" of his non-citizenship...

how is a bunch of backwater cousin kissing clowns going to know something?

Seriously.
photo
HUFFPOST SUPER USER
RapidProf
02:44 PM on 01/03/2011
Offensive to cousin-kissers.