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Returning The Senate To Majority-Rule: Support Builds For Three Key Reforms


First Posted: 12/30/10 12:42 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

BUFFALO, N.Y. -- A group of reform-minded senators believe they have a strong chance of changing the way the Senate does business in the next year, with support coalescing around three reforms: 1) No longer allowing senators to filibuster the motion to proceed, and instead allowing a set amount of time for debate; 2) ending secret holds; and 3) re-establishing the "talking filibuster." They hope these changes will return the body to majority rule and block a stubborn minority from holding up action.

Changing the Senate rules is essentially a two-step process. First, they have to convince the Vice President that the Constitution allows senators to adopt rules on the first day of a new congressional session with just 51 votes. Then, the majority must agree on what those changes should be.

Sen. Tom Udall (D-N.M.), one of the leaders of the effort to reform the filibuster, told The Huffington Post on Wednesday that senators in favor of reform will be filing a brief with Vice President Joe Biden in the coming days, "showing him what we intend to do, what our legal research shows, what the constitutional precedents are, what the three vice presidents have ruled about bringing rules changes on the first day. We're hopeful he will rule in line with previous vice presidents who have said that on the first day, you can file a motion to change the rules."

The senators last held a Democratic caucus meeting on reforming the filibuster on Dec. 17. Over the break, however, senators have continued making phone calls and meeting with each other in preparation for Jan. 5.

One of the reforms that Udall believes has the most support is a "talking filibuster." Therefore, if 41 senators vote to continue debate, there will actually be continued debate. (What generally happens now is that 41 senators vote to filibuster and the matter is considered defeated.) (If the reform is implemented, demonstrations like that conducted by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) on the floor of the Senate, where he railed against the tax cut proposal for hours on end, may become more commonplace.) Once the senators are done debating, cloture would be invoked and they would move to an up-or-down vote.

"That's the most important thing about the process is that we get to a final vote on the things the American people care about and give them an up-or-down vote, not have obstruction and delay and supermajority-voting that prevents us from doing what we should be doing," said Udall.

Some suggestions put forth by Udall have attracted bipartisan support. Republican Sen. Dan Coats (Ind.) has said that he supports removing the ability to filibuster the motion to proceed to debate. "I think what we need is the opportunity to debate and have an up-or-down vote on every issue," said Coats in an interview with NPR.

"If ... the goal is to have deliberation then blocking getting to debate makes no sense, and that's a very common sense thing," said Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), another advocate of the reform effort. "If 41 people vote to say they want to continue debate, then forcing there to be that debate makes sense."

According to this measure, both sides of an issue would be allowed equal time for debate. After that, the legislation could move to a vote.

On another measure barring secret holds, 66 senators have signed a letter denouncing the practice.

One other idea has been gaining attention in recent days: newly elected Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) has said he would support a change stating the filibuster cannot apply to judicial nominees. President Obama has consistently been frustrated with how long it takes to get his judicial nominees approved, with many of them held up indefinitely by GOP filibusters.

Udall said that changing the procedure for judicial nominees is something they've been talking about, although he hasn't specifically talked to Lee -- his second cousin -- about the matter yet.

"I was at a meeting for the orientation for freshmen senators, and I proposed to all the freshmen senators who were there, Democrats and Republicans, that they take a real hard look at the rules because if they came with the idea they wanted to get some things done, under the current rules, they'd have a very hard time doing it," said Udall. "So we raised the issue that we wanted to be bipartisan in this effort and pull people in. Really what we're trying to do is make the Senate more accountable and prevent the obstruction and get back to majority rule rather than supermajority rule. Transparency is the essence of what we're seeking here."

Republican leadership hasn't jumped at the chance to support these rules reforms, telling The Huffington Post in an e-mail that Democrats first need to answer a question: "If you end the cloture rules, are you going to be okay with health care repealed in the next Republican majority without any chance to stop it?"

Udall's response: "I'm approaching this with the overriding premise that we need to protect minority rights, we need to protect the minority's right to amend, to speak and to participate to a significant degree, but we cannot allow the minority to obstruct the majority from governing, and that's the situation we've gotten ourselves into with these unprecedented filibusters and requiring a 60-vote majority on every single issue. We've had 89 filibusters the last two years. You don't have to go back very far and this was a rare occurrence."

Although Obama has said that Congress needs to "fix how the filibuster is used in the Senate," White House Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer recently clarified that the White House will not endorse any specific proposal. "I'm not sure a president getting involved in a legislative branch matter like that would be viewed as constructive by the other branch," he said.

Udall, however, said he would love the president's involvement. "I'm happy, at this point, to have anybody speak up about the abuse because I'm not sure all Americans know how far the Senate has gone in terms of supermajority rule, how far they've gone in terms of obstruction," he said. "So I'm happy to have anybody speak up, especially the President, who has a very big microphone."

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siamao 05:42 PM on 12/30/2010
On President Obama and The Change of Senate Rules

What's the President going to say about all this filibuster business?

 . . . the White House will not endorse any specific proposal, [according to the
White House Communications DirectorI who said], "I'm not sure a president
getting involved in a legislative branch matter like that would be viewed  Read More...

And you better believe that would be the case for this particular President!  Unless our
POTUS retains his usual, calm detachment from this filibuster matter, he is the one who
will be blamed from now 'til kingdom come for hijacking the Senate rules to hasten his
"socialist" agenda.

Moreover, the previous two years of Republican obstructionism will undergo Rovian
transformation to be sold as the bulwark of Democracy which prevented Obama's
socialist take-over of America until he changed the rules.

So, please, Mr. President, whatever you do, stay far away from this thorny filibuster matter!
11:28 AM on 01/02/2011
The filibuster has been an integral part of the way Congress was designed to work from the beginning of our government. To now, all of a sudden, have a couple of "lawmakers" decide that this traditional process doesn't work makes me suspicious of the motives of these people regardless of party. Before any fundamental process like the filibuster is toted with, there needs to be a lot of examination and public disclosure.
12:37 PM on 01/01/2011
Only Democrats can be this stupid Republicans no longer need the Filibuster we now control the House you will only be doing us a favor if we take the Senate next time around once the rules are changed there will be no going back.
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Victoria-nola
There is no way to peace; peace is the way.--Muste
05:24 AM on 01/02/2011
Your threats are meaningless. We are tired of the obstruction, and only Republicans abuse the filibuster. If you do get the majority in the Senate again, it won't be for long.

Republican abuse of the filibuster has made reform imperative.
12:04 AM on 01/01/2011
They also need to return to the days that only TAXPAYERS vote instead of those with no skin in the game don't get to take from the producers
07:28 PM on 12/31/2010
The kind of reform I would like to see in both the Senate and the House starts with putting place term limits on members of Congress. Would like to see all of those in Congress having to follow every new law or policy just like we have to do. They should pay into social security, have to enroll in the new health care coverage, cannot give themselves raises and benefits without taxpayer approval, etc. Do you hear anyone in Congress interested in these reforms? No, and you never will because regardless of party they all like the good thing they got going at our expense. How does someone who is making $175,000 per year come out becoming millionaires after a few terms in office? We need real reform in Washington.
03:55 PM on 12/31/2010
Since the Democrats never learned anything from Republican abuse of the filibuster, it might as well be done away with now lest we complain about them again not using it when the GOP retakes the Senate.
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Victoria-nola
There is no way to peace; peace is the way.--Muste
05:25 AM on 01/02/2011
What we have learned is that the rules must be reformed because Republicans insist on abusing it. I'd rather see a fair situation going than what we've had.
11:37 AM on 12/31/2010
Sen. Udall's proposals make sense, and it would be somewhat of a return to the days when the Senate operated in a more congenial manner. However, Republicans and Democrats alike are sure to keep the 60 vote threshold, which does indeed guarantee the minority does not get trampled, as it does in the House.
03:56 PM on 12/31/2010
I prefer Senator Harkin's diminishing cloture vote idea, but I can live with Udall's plan. Either would be preferable to allowing the GOP to continue to run things from the minority.
05:49 AM on 12/31/2010
"If you end the cloture rules, are you going to be okay with health care repealed in the next Republican majority without any chance to stop it?"

You can certainly try but re-implementing allowing insurance companies to drop your insurance because you get sick or refusing to insure you because you have a pre-existing condition or removing children age 21-26 from parents insurance or re-instating the donut hole that costs seniors money for drugs, those are going to be hard to convince people that it's a good thing to do. They are going to be really hard to repeal since they are in the Republicans list of health care accomplishments from their new and improved Contract on America.

The Repubs don't want to change the filibuster rules because they are still in the minority and they want to simply "say no" rather than have to actually debate.
03:57 PM on 12/31/2010
I would agree, except that the Republicans have clearly demonstrated they are concerned only about those for whom good health care costs less than lunch did.
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jacqmac
03:27 AM on 12/31/2010
Just like those Republicans. Trying to SCARE Democrats away from fixing a VERY VERY BROKEN SYSTEM. They know that this fix will work against THEM, no matter whether they have a majority or not. I'm pretty sure that there are other Dems like Bernie Sanders, who would be HAPPY to hold the floor indefinitely , should a threat to healthcare in the form of repeal, be mounted. I'm also sure that the LONGER someone talks-the more ATTENTION that someone gets-nationally. So--Republicans are afraid, very afraid of America waking up to the reality that is in front of them.
03:58 PM on 12/31/2010
"I'm also sure that the LONGER someone talks-the more ATTENTION that someone gets-natio­nally."

I hope you are right, but do let me know when this shows up on Fox.
12:58 AM on 12/31/2010
I think the calls for filibuster reform will quiet down when the GOP takes over in 2012.
05:50 AM on 12/31/2010
And yet the calls for it are now not in 2 years.
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Wong23
Card-carrying Progressive
12:41 AM on 12/31/2010
Article 1 sec 5 of the Constitution states "Each House may determine the rules of its proceedings." The Reichelderfer decision in 1932 ruled, "The will of a particular Congress does not impose itself upon those to follow in succeeding years."

At the beginning of each new Congressional term, each house may adopt or determine the rules of it's proceedings. Failure to adopt new rules is implied acceptance of rules in place. At the beginning of any new session a majority of Senators can change the rules to require 60 or 70 or 80 votes to amend the rules or to end or begin debate. Or they may choose 51.

Such an adoption of new rules is completely with in the scope of the Constitution and legal precedent. Any notion that the Senate is a"continuing" body and therefore ineligible to change the rules fails to answer a central question. How is it possible the current Senate rules were adopted in 1917 if those Senate rules had been permanent and immutable according to some ethereal "continuing body" interpretation. If such an interpretation had validity, only those rules adopted by the First Senate of the US would be allowed. The truth is any such notion is blathering right-wing nonsense.

In fact, the notion of the Senate as a continuing body has absolutely no merit and has never been upheld by any Supreme court or lower court ruling.
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Artemis34
Women can vote against the GOP or against their ow
10:08 PM on 12/30/2010
Senators from states with tiny populations already have way too much power, but under the constitution, nothing to do about 2 senators per state. 

However, the 60 vote parliamentary rule gives even more power to senators who already have a disproportionate amount of power. 

Return to what the constitutions states, simple majority 50 senators + the VP to break the tie, is the right direction. 

Changing the rules does not mean the majority in the Senate will be unchecked.  The president can still veto and it takes more votes to override a veto.  The court may rule the law unconstitutional, etc.  That is why there are checks and balances built into the 3 branches of government.
10:02 PM on 12/30/2010
It's bad enough that States like California and Texas have the same of amount of representation as Alabama and Tennessee. A super majority is needed for everything now a days. This is compounded by cowardly democrats unwilling to use reconciliation while repugnants use it like there's no tomorrow. When it's all said and done the Filibuster is a method for politicians to have an excuse for why they didn't deliver on their promises.
09:36 PM on 12/30/2010
I agree with "catzoned" about 10 comments below this one. Our MSM (Fox, CNN, etc) is totally biased. Pretending to be fair and balanced they will frequently feature 1 liberal "talking head" to 4 conservative ones. This is not equal competition! I could say plenty more but to REALLY get a grasp on exactly what is going on today, you should see this great read. It really puts everything into perspective.

http://www.e-tabitha.com/2010/12/smoke-mirrors.html
09:35 PM on 12/30/2010
This notion that it's easier on the first day of the Congressional session to change the rules than it is mid-term is somewhat ludicrous. Think about it. Why would a bloc of 51 Senators EVER grant a filibuster power to 41? Also, why should it take 67 votes to change the rules on January 6 if it only took 51 to approve them on January 5? It just doesn't seem logical. Except for special elections (caused by death, resignation, or impeachment of Senators), the composition of the Senate doesn't change within a given term.
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Buffyboy
Hope and Change is still coming.
10:45 PM on 12/30/2010
Because a few senators from southern and rural states have blocked the majority of legislation and appointments, to the detriment of the majority of the population. If they don't do it then, it won't be done. That's the difference between politicians who have scruples and those who don't. I think we all know who is who.
05:53 AM on 12/31/2010
It's not easier, it's simply that's when the rules can be changed. Once the rules are voted on and agreed to they are stuck to through that 2 year senate session. If the Filibuster rule is going to be changed it needs to be done on January 3rd as the first order of business for the next senate.
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tsihcrana
09:08 PM on 12/30/2010
TEST
05:54 AM on 12/31/2010
You got a B