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Scalia: Women Don't Have Constitutional Protection Against Discrimination

First Posted: 01/03/11 04:58 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

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WASHINGTON -- The equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution does not protect against discrimination on the basis of gender or sexual orientation, according to Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia.

In a newly published interview in the legal magazine California Lawyer, Scalia said that while the Constitution does not disallow the passage of legislation outlawing such discrimination, it doesn't itself outlaw that behavior:

In 1868, when the 39th Congress was debating and ultimately proposing the 14th Amendment, I don't think anybody would have thought that equal protection applied to sex discrimination, or certainly not to sexual orientation. So does that mean that we've gone off in error by applying the 14th Amendment to both?

Yes, yes. Sorry, to tell you that. ... But, you know, if indeed the current society has come to different views, that's fine. You do not need the Constitution to reflect the wishes of the current society. Certainly the Constitution does not require discrimination on the basis of sex. The only issue is whether it prohibits it. It doesn't. Nobody ever thought that that's what it meant. Nobody ever voted for that. If the current society wants to outlaw discrimination by sex, hey we have things called legislatures, and they enact things called laws. You don't need a constitution to keep things up-to-date. All you need is a legislature and a ballot box. You don't like the death penalty anymore, that's fine. You want a right to abortion? There's nothing in the Constitution about that. But that doesn't mean you cannot prohibit it. Persuade your fellow citizens it's a good idea and pass a law. That's what democracy is all about. It's not about nine superannuated judges who have been there too long, imposing these demands on society.

For the record, the 14th Amendment's equal protection clause states: "No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Marcia Greenberger, founder and co-president of the National Women's Law Center, called the justice's comments "shocking" and said he was essentially saying that if the government sanctions discrimination against women, the judiciary offers no recourse.

"In these comments, Justice Scalia says if Congress wants to protect laws that prohibit sex discrimination, that's up to them," she said. "But what if they want to pass laws that discriminate? Then he says that there's nothing the court will do to protect women from government-sanctioned discrimination against them. And that's a pretty shocking position to take in 2011. It's especially shocking in light of the decades of precedents and the numbers of justices who have agreed that there is protection in the 14th Amendment against sex discrimination, and struck down many, many laws in many, many areas on the basis of that protection."

Greenberger added that under Scalia's doctrine, women could be legally barred from juries, paid less by the government, receive fewer benefits in the armed forces, and be excluded from state-run schools -- all things that have happened in the past, before their rights to equal protection were enforced.

"In 1971, the Supreme Court unanimously ruled that they were protected, in an opinion by the conservative then Chief Justice Warren Burger," Adam Cohen wrote in Time in September. "It is no small thing to talk about writing women out of equal protection -- or Jews, or Latinos or other groups who would lose their protection by the same logic. It is nice to think that legislatures would protect these minorities from oppression by the majority, but we have a very different country when the Constitution guarantees that it is so."

In 1996, Scalia cast the sole vote in favor of allowing the Virginia Military Institute to continue denying women admission.

UPDATE: Observers have pointed out that Scalia and his interviewer, UC Hastings law professor Calvin Massey, are wrong when they say that no one ever considered the 14th amendment applying equal protection for women. In fact, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B. Anthony and other women's rights advocates publicly pushed to include explicit mentions of women's rights in the 14th and 15th amendments. (The National Woman Suffrage Association was born out of Stanton and Anthony's opposition to the shape of the 14th amendment.) Republican Rep. Thaddeus Stevens introduced a petition for universal suffrage in 1866.

Their version, however, was defeated, and as Linda Gordon, NYU professor of history, told The Huffington Post, "the women who had led that felt they had been absolutely sold out by the post-Lincoln Republican Party because the 14th and 15th amendments are the first times that this notion of black people as a separate category was added" to the Constitution.

Legal scholar Jack Balkin writes that while the 14th amendment doesn't end up explicitly mentioning sex, that doesn't mean it doesn't grant women equal protection:

First, The central purpose of the Fourteenth Amendment was to guarantee equal citizenship and equality before the law for all citizens and for all persons. It does not simply ban discrimination based on race. The fact that the word race is not mentioned in the text (as it is in the fifteenth amendment) was quite deliberate.

Scalia argues that the fourteenth amendment was not intended to prevent sex discrimination. That's not entirely true. The supporters of the fourteenth amendment did not think it would disturb the common law rules of coverture: under these rules women lost most of their common law rights upon marriage under the fiction that their legal identities were merged with their husbands. But these rules did not apply to single women. So in fact, the fourteenth amendment was intended to prohibit some forms of sex discrimination-- discrimination in basic civil rights against single women.

Moreover, the Constitution was subsequently amended. After the nineteenth amendment, the common law coverture rules made little sense. If married women had the right to vote, why did they not have the right to contract or own property in their own names? If we read the Fourteenth Amendment's guarantee of civil equality in light of the Nineteenth Amendment, the guarantee of sex equality should apply to both single and married women. The conservative court during the Lochner era thought as much in a case called Adkins v. Children's Hospital, decided immediately after the ratification of the Nineteenth Amendment.

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06:23 PM on 02/21/2011
"Persuade your fellow citizens it's a good idea and pass a law. That's what democracy is all about. It's not about nine superannuated judges who have been there too long, imposing these demands on society."

Totally misleading Huffpo headline, as usual. Inference is that this is Scalia's biased intepretation, instead of a comment on the Constitution itself.

Nice job Huffpo. Or should I say, AOL.
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01:19 PM on 01/23/2011
Can we the people vote for the supreme court justice now?
01:58 PM on 01/19/2011
Surprisingly not surprising...and there's the rub.
09:50 PM on 01/07/2011
I hate to say it, but Scalia's quite right on this one. The ERA amendment and subsequent STOP-ERA movement wasn't that long ago, doesn't anybody remember? Perhaps all the wailing and fainting people have forgotten that this was an acknowledged fact in the mid-late 1970s, and there was a movement to change it.

People need to stop being offended to the sky when someone confronts their world-view with cold facts, no matter how well and justified that world-view is!

That, and I swear some people just get off on being deathly offended, sometimes on behalf of somebody else. Just get a life.
01:19 PM on 01/20/2011
COLD Fact? It says "person"---so women are not people. Gays are not people? I'm offended that we have to add amendments to define a simple word like PERSON!
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02:30 PM on 01/20/2011
At the time that this amendment was enacted, no, a woman was not a 'person'. A woman's 'personhood' only came about when they were given the right to vote as citizens with the 19th Amendment. Remember, when a woman was married, her identity belonged under her husband. Even single women had a hard time with being able to exist legally without a male around, i.e. brother, father, etc. Hence the feeling of betrayal when language that would have included equality based on sex/gender was left out of the 14th and 15th Amendment.

But you are also ignoring what else Scalia said, which is key here:
"If the current society wants to outlaw discrimination by sex, hey we have things called legislatures, and they enact things called laws. You don't need a constitution to keep things up-to-date. All you need is a legislature and a ballot box. You don't like the death penalty anymore, that's fine. You want a right to abortion? There's nothing in the Constitution about that. But that doesn't mean you cannot prohibit it. Persuade your fellow citizens it's a good idea and pass a law. That's what democracy is all about. It's not about nine superannuated judges who have been there too long, imposing these demands on society."

Haven't we, as a country, already proven this? Regardless of how slow our process may be, we have changed our perception and laws by the very process he said to use.
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03:47 PM on 01/07/2011
Scalia is right that the 14th Amendment does not mention sex discrimination explicitly. But it is implied that all citizens have equal protection under the law. Scalia likes to get a rise out of people and is playing with us.
11:30 AM on 01/07/2011
How about we all get on board with Maloney and NOW et all to get the ERA ratified and take Scalia up on the offer.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/01/06/scalia-fourteenth-amendment-dems-women_n_805297.html

The gay community, especially lesbians, need to be on board too. Besides other things, the ERA sets an argument for marriage equality. Judge Walker gave us a gift of legal precedent in the Prop 8 ruling.

He didn't say "gender discrimination" numerous times, and "sex discrimination" against lesbians, for nothing. Wake up folks and get your game on with getting the ERA on the books.
02:00 AM on 01/07/2011
Instead of eliminating S.C. we need to IMPEACH Scalia. This man should never have been approved as a Justice. WE NEED TO WAKE THIS NATION UP. LETS START BY GETTING RID OF THIS MAN. IMPEACH! IMPEACH! IMPEACH! Pass this cry to all your contacts.
01:59 AM on 01/07/2011
Are folks so stupid as to realize that the conservative 5-4 SCOTUS majority no longer respects prior legal precedent (stare decisis)? The music stopped playing long ago, yet folks are still clamoring for non-existent chairs. Game over, USA.
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11:27 PM on 01/06/2011
sickening, and to hear he was found under a rock
Sundiszno
Facts are facts carnival barkers!
10:27 PM on 01/06/2011
If Scalia's view ever wins out, then the Constitution would be an obsolete document. And any new constitution would become obsolete within two or three generations. In other words we would become something like France, which is now on the 17th constitution. Who knew Scalia was such a francophile.
02:01 AM on 01/07/2011
Scalia's view HAS won out. All it takes is for the issue to make it to the SCOTUS again, and you'll see what happens. Stare Decisis no longer exists. Game over, USA. I give democracy "maybe" another 30 yrs or so, but no more than that.
Sundiszno
Facts are facts carnival barkers!
01:23 PM on 01/07/2011
I understand the sentiment behind your reply, but I disagree that Scalia's view has won out.
02:49 PM on 01/07/2011
No, Scalia has not won out- and I doubt he ever will on this matter. The Court may be conservative dominated but the notion of the Constitution as a "living document" open to interpretation keeping in mind the intentions of the legislators who wrote a particular portion of it... WILL NEVER DIE. Scalia and his kind will lose. The moral arc of the universe, etc.
09:39 PM on 01/06/2011
ERA Now! Only 3 more states are needed to ratify this Constitutional Amendment. Let's finish the job. Women's rights will never be fully guaranteed until its passed.
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06:00 AM on 01/07/2011
If the Equal Rights Amendment were ratified, then women would be forced into military combat with men. See the case of Rostker v. Goldberg, 453 U.S. 57, 78 & 83 (1981), in which the United States Supreme Court held that Congress has the constituti­onal authority to force men into combat and exclude women from combat.”
07:16 AM on 01/07/2011
Why do you think thats a good argument against the ERA? When people join the military they should expect the possibility they might be deployed for a war or other conflict. Women are currently flying helicopters in the ME conflicts, which have led them directly into danger. I dont see anything wrong with sending them into combat other than two main issues 1) what is theyre captured and the awful things the enemy would/could do to them? and 2) men in the us military just cant handle it.
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03:02 PM on 01/11/2011
Don't see that happening when even today no one is forced into the military. Hence if a woman sees combat as something she does not want she simply doesn't enlist.
06:51 PM on 01/06/2011
I'll never understand why Rethuglica­n, conservati­ve, right-wing­, religious fanatics think they can force other normal people to accept their deviant views and lifestyle. They love to tell other people how to live their lives, while their own lives are in shambles. The Christian (esp. Catholic, Mormon, Evangelica­l, and Southern Baptist) Taliban in this country are going to face a violent wake up call soon if they keep trying to spread their hatred, intolerant views and actions on normal Americans. Scalia is a repulsive bigot who should never had been allowed to sit on the bench in the first place and should have been impeached long ago. If he doesn't resign immediately, and is not impeached, the American public needs to take WHATEVER ACTION NECESSARY, to remove him from the bench.
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09:55 PM on 01/06/2011
And to think that I can't even type out the word C.h.e.n.e.y on this site sometimes--while you're making a lightly veiled promotion of @$$a$$ination.

I won't flag you, b/c I'm all about free speech, but man this site's m0der.ation is messed up.
07:17 AM on 01/07/2011
You should try posting on townhall.com. I was banned from there.
06:49 PM on 01/06/2011
INTERPRETING THE CONSTITUTION TOO LITERALLY IS JUST AS UNREASONABLE AND UNFAITHFUL AS INTERPRETING IT TOO BROADLY.
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03:07 PM on 01/11/2011
The same is said regarding the bible. It seems those who hold this view are those who need an uthoritarian leader. Thinking for themselves, using heart and mind, is not an option.
06:31 PM on 01/06/2011
Perhaps you remember Hymie the robot from the Get Smart series, he took things so literally it was ridiculous. "Shake Hymie" and Hymie would vibrate.

This is Scalia and his allies on the Court, whose have used this almost laughable interpretation of the Constitution over and over again to eviscerate it by being intentionally obtuse. The principle is simple: that all are equal before the law. "All" being non-criminals whose different stations has nothing to do with their behavior but rather their condition.

If you want a "vast right-wing conspiracy" this is where it is, the fruits of the Federalist Society that have sought to have jurists such as this placed in the judiciary over the past 25 years. Their goal is to un-do all legal doctrine since FDR was elected. They do this by interpreting the constitution so specifically that it is a narrow statute, ignoring the obvious principles. Constitutions are nothing but principles, basic principles that must be reasonably interpreted to apply to contemporary situations.

Our current Supreme court majority is mediocrity orchestrated by the right, we haven't seen Justices like this since the Dred Scott case.
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05:49 PM on 01/06/2011
We see, in the astounding commentary by Judge Scalia, the necessity of major reform of the now near obsolescent institution known as the Supreme Court.

For one thing, there should be 30 or 40 justices rather than allowing a small number of supposed judicial elites to determine, sway or otherwise influence major public policies.

For another, the idea of appointing these judicial philosopher kings for life is suspect and methods of easy recall, with protections against abuse, must be instituted.

This can be made part of the citizens' reforms which are inevitable as we bring this government into the 21st century by abolition of the so called electoral college, the institution of recall elections for all elected officials including those in congress and the president, the abolition of archaic parliamentary procedures and practices in congress, the imposition of strict term limits on every office holder, the prohibition against manipulating congressional districts in the states and other major and badly needed reforms.

These kinds of changes will ensure that Justice Scalia's statement shall be reduced to its correct status as the unimportant and misguided speculation of an idealogue instead of the dangerous threat to the foundations of our democracy that it currently represents.
06:31 PM on 01/06/2011
Wholeheartedly agree with much of what you say (especially abolishing the electoral college) EXCEPT for the philosopher king reference. If we elected true philosophers/lovers of wisdom to the bench- instead of the latest HVLR editor, then this wouldn't happen.
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07:45 PM on 01/06/2011
I'm in agreement with your observation! Thanks!
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10:01 PM on 01/06/2011
I agree about the "life appointment" notion, for sure. Whether it's Kagan or Scalia--these are not "supreme beings."