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Health Care Reform Repeal Vote Could Lead To Obama Veto

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AP/The Huffington Post   First Posted: 01/04/11 10:00 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:20 PM ET

WASHINGTON — Eager to show who's now in charge, the House's new Republican majority plans to vote to repeal President Barack Obama's landmark health care overhaul before he even shows up in their chamber to give his State of the Union address.

Dramatic as that early showdown promises to be – the vote will be Jan. 12, Republicans said Monday – it will be just the first in a series of struggles expected to play out in the next few months. Obama returns Tuesday from his holiday vacation, fresh off lame-duck legislative victories late last year, and Republicans will be sworn in Wednesday, primed to challenge him after gaining House control in last fall's elections.

Full repeal of the health care law is still a long shot. The House vote would be just the first, easiest step. But House Republicans vow they will follow up with dozens of attempts to hack away at what they derisively call "Obamacare."

The strategy is not risk-free for the Republicans, who won't have a replacement plan of their own ready by the time of the repeal vote. But they say there's no time to lose.

Senate Democratic leaders are sending their own "you-don't-scare-me" message. In a letter Monday to House Speaker-to-be John Boehner, they served notice that they'll block any repeal, arguing it would kill popular provisions such as improved prescription coverage for Medicare.

Beyond the early health care vote, emboldened Republicans are straining to challenge the president's spending priorities, setting up likely conflicts over the budget and the country's debt ceiling. Those votes will be early tests of how the president will maneuver with a divided Congress, as both he and Republicans look ahead to the next elections.

Most likely, both parties will carry the main issues of the health care debate into the 2012 campaign, when Obama is expected to seek a second term against a Republican challenger, and House and Senate control will be up for grabs again.

"It's not going to be easy; it's going to be a long, hard slog," said Rep. Steve King, R-Iowa, an early leader in the health care repeal drive. The quick thumbs-down vote by the House will have "tremendous utility and value," King said, but it may take electing a Republican president in Obama's place to accomplish the overall goal.

All the while, the Obama administration intends to keep putting into place the law's framework for covering more than 30 million uninsured people. Ultimately, Obama still has his veto pen, and Republicans aren't anywhere close to the two-thirds majorities they would need to override.

Still, Rep. Fred Upton, an incoming GOP chairman, argued otherwise on Sunday, saying, "I don't think we're going to be that far off from having the votes to actually override a veto."

"Repeal and replace" worked as a campaign slogan to motivate voters concerned about the growing reach of government under Obama. But a single-minded focus on repeal could backfire as a Republican governing strategy. Polls show that some parts of the law are popular, and many Americans would have wanted even bigger changes.

Look for Republicans to try to deny money for the government to carry out the law. They'll also attempt to strip out sections of it, such as a new long-term care program. And they'll move to strengthen restrictions on funding for abortions.

It's far from clear that they'll be able to prevail in those efforts either. There's talk that an effort to deny funding could escalate to the point of a possible government shutdown, and no one seems eager for that.

"I don't think the health issues will cause anything dire in the way of a government shutdown," said economist Robert Reischauer, president of the Urban Institute think tank. "There are other things on the agenda besides health care, namely broader budget issues that have to be dealt with."

The two parties may be able to get a deal on some limited fixes, like repealing an income tax reporting requirement that small business is calling a paperwork nightmare.

At the White House, spokesman Reid Cherlin said Obama would have no qualms about delivering his State of the Union speech to lawmakers who've just repudiated his signature accomplishment, one that Democrats compare with the establishment of Social Security and Medicare. The president "feels pretty confident about defending the health care law," Cherlin said.

Senate Democrats agree. In Monday's letter to Boehner, Majority Leader Reid and top lieutenants said repeal would undermine improvements already on the books, such as deep discounts on brand-name drugs for Medicare recipients who have fallen into a coverage gap called the "doughnut hole."

"This proposal deserves a chance to work," the Democratic leaders said. "It is too important to be treated as collateral damage in a partisan mission to repeal health care." The law would gradually close the coverage gap.

Democrats are preparing other counterattacks.

Rep. Peter Welch, D-Vt., said Monday he will try to force the House to vote separately on the Medicare drug benefits and other popular provisions, including one that allows adult children to stay on their parents' coverage until they turn 26. That could put Republicans in an awkward bind.

Other supporters of the health care law have launched a "drop it or stop it" campaign, challenging Republicans who vote to repeal the overhaul to also give up the government-funded health insurance provided to members of Congress.

"It's hypocrisy, their willingness to take health care from the U.S. Congress, while they're denying it to their constituents," said Ethan Rome, executive director of Health Care for America NOW, a coalition of the law's backers.

Republicans say that's nonsense: Lawmakers are only accepting the same employer-sponsored health care coverage available to other federal workers.

They may be more vulnerable on another score. The House vote will be to simply repeal the health care law. The "replace" part of the GOP slogan will be delegated to several committees, charged with developing an alternative as the year goes on. That can be a laborious process, one that produced plenty of disagreements and embarrassments for Democrats when they were in control.

It's a risk worth taking, says Rep. King. "I do not believe that you can leave any of Obamacare in the law," he said. "To pick and choose would start endless squabbles. If there are components of Obamacare that have merit, they can be reintroduced as part of a replacement process."

Finally, there's a wild card: the courts. Challenges to the constitutionality of the health care law are working their way toward the Supreme Court. Opponents say Congress overstepped its authority by requiring most Americans to carry health insurance, effective in 2014. The case may take a couple of years, and it could change everything.

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Eva fate
06:01 PM on 01/17/2011
No, but it will waste time that could be used doing something useful, like getting the long term unemployed into job training or back to work.
I'm insulted that people are focusing on anything else but creating jobs and keeping people from being homeless or starving while they look for them.
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Joseph Peeler
03:56 PM on 01/06/2011
Well, there were something like 500 billion dollars in cuts to medicare over the next ten years in the so-called health care reform legislation (this is why seniors are in such a frenzy over it). These cuts would go away if repeal happens so in that respect health care costs would rise. But there are numerous other things in the bill that guarantee that costs will skyrocket. Why this would surprise anyone who has seen what government central planning has done to the costs and efficiency of health care since it got so heavily involved nearly 50 years ago is beyond me. This latest adventure in central planning is designed to fix the unintended consequences of previous government meausures. I don't know why more socialism in a sector that is already heavily socialized would inspire confidece in a moderately observant individual.
09:56 AM on 01/06/2011
In an Forbes article 7.3.09 (see http://www.forbes.com/2009/07/02/health-care-costs-opinions-columnists-reform.html) Bruce Bartlett points out that in comparison with the developed countries in OECD the US spent in 2007 the largest amount per capita on health care ($7,290 vs OECD avg $2,964 [2nd most Norway : $4,763]) which is also the highest percentage of GDP (5% more than second France and ~7% more than OECD avg %8.9)

US gets very little for its health care money:

The US life expectancy at birth is less than OECD avg. Apart for Mexico and Turkey US has the highest infant mortality, i.e 6.7 infants died per 1,000 live births.

Apart from Mexico and Turkey US has also the highest number of uninsured citizens, however unlike Mexico and Turkey the rate of uninsured has not improved over the last 15 years.

Most of the 31 non US OECD countries have 100% public coverage, only the Netherlands and Germany have mixed (mainly public) coverage (mandated).

All in all, US gets very poor value for money relative to other developed countries.

The Constitution in its preamble indicates its intent to be among other things to "promote the general Welfare" Thus a health care reform has a constitutional basis.

(see also http://www.slideshare.net/edocteur/docteurworld-bankoct09 )

Looking at the above we should feel ashamed.
03:11 AM on 01/06/2011
YEP, HEALTH CARE IS ALL BUT GONE.

HARRY RIED IS THE BIGGEST MOST CORRUPT, INCOMPETENT COWARD IN THE WHOLE OF CONGRESS, AND WILL PUSSYFOOT AROUND... LETTING THESE THUGS GET AWAY WITH IT...

AND, SADLY, OBAMA WILL SIGN ANYTHING THE REPUBLICANS PUT IN FRONT OF HIM... HE'S A TROJAN HORSE.
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exclintonsupporter
Love your enemy --- it messes with their heads!!!
06:14 PM on 01/05/2011
I think the actions of the GOP to waste time trying to repeal HCR is unconscionable!!! They are doing so, knowing full well that HCR will not be repealed because even if it gets through the Senate the President will Veto it. Haven't they wasted enough of American's time already. The HCR as it stands is not perfect, but it does have a lot of good benefits for millions of Americans/ If the GOP were truly concerned about America and it's people, then they would roll up their sleeves and reach across the aisle to their fellow Dems and work to find ways to make HC better. No one in their right mind can convince me that giving HC to children is wrong...or making sure people who leave one job to take another who had a pre-existing conditioon are able to obtain affordable health care is wrong...or allowing ones 26 year old to continue on their parents insurance policy if not able to afford their own, is wrong...or providing health care for 30+million people who previously did not have it is wrong...it isn't...the GOP knows that...so stop with the games and work to make it better...repealing is not the answer that millions of Americans are looking for...What about your promise to LISTEN to what the American people want?????
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knot2
03:42 PM on 01/05/2011
Notice how the GOP is “picking and choosing” from their “Pledge to America” back in the election season….link here http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20017335-503544.html
1) Jobs was NUMBER ONE – Why is HealthCare reform repeal first on their list?
2) Stop Out of Control Spending – Umm didn’t the Budget Office say the HealthCare reform bill would reduce the deficit? Sounds like the GOP Goofed again … oh, wait they never planned to honor their pledge once elected.
3) Repeal and Replace Health Care – Hey finally reaching an item in the pledge.
4) Reform Congress – But hey GOP will push for repeal without discussion – yep- sounds just like the old way of doing things – what reform!

Shall I go On?
03:04 PM on 01/05/2011
Cut unnecessary spending and stop contributing to the deficit by not wasting time arguing what is going to be vetoed anyway. ;-P
02:39 PM on 01/05/2011
Why is AARP, an insurer that backed the Nationalized HealthCare Plan, offered and exemption form the plan? Why are major unions...Who pushed for the plan...Offered exemptions from the plan? Why are premiums going up and up when the Nationalized HealthCare Plan was supposed to lower premiums? This plan doesn't work...and needs to be repealed.

The power the Republicans have acquired in winning the House is they can have the open hearings where the issues of governmental control of the healthcare industry, the AARP and union exemptions, instances of what looks like corruption or at least favoritism, are exposed not just on the evening news but in hearings. so even if President Obama vetoes the bill...There will be open hearings on each one of the measueres and deals that were cut in the back rooms of the Democratic party offices.

And beings that President Obama is for a more open government and more transparency...We should all be happy about that process.
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knot2
03:28 PM on 01/05/2011
??? The article points out that they will be having the "house vote" without hearings.
How is that "more open Govt. and more transparency"?
03:22 AM on 01/06/2011
Another 'willfully ignorant' American. A vapid echo chamber, repeating the propaganda and lies. Feels good, huh? Hate, I mean.
01:38 PM on 01/05/2011
It's largely a symbolic act to repeal the Health care bill, but Republicans will try to defund parts of the health care plan as various provisions come on line, so if it can't be repealed at least the whole bill won't become law.
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wonderfullone
11:54 AM on 01/05/2011
The GOP are showing the American people just how heartless they are. They also know where their loyalty lies, and it's with the Medical Insurance Corporations..... The President will Veto the repeal from the GOP.
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exclintonsupporter
Love your enemy --- it messes with their heads!!!
11:16 AM on 01/05/2011
So...it's the first day of the new Congress...& after 2 years (10 if you count 8 years of Bush/Cheney) the GOP steps up as the Leader of the House of Reps. The very first business is to REVEAL their PLAN on how they will get the American People working & this economy back on track....What...what did you say...I'm WRONG...they aren't going to do that at all their first day...they are going to PROPOSE REPEALING HCR...why...why would they do that...well to create a diversion...a diversion you say...a diversion from what...

Well after all, they must make the American people think that they are doing what they said they were going to do during the campaign…& since they really can’t do that then they're going to roll up their sleeves & do something…anything to make people think that they're working...after all they don’t want America to find out that they were LYING during the last campaign...SEE --- they really DON'T have a PLAN to reveal showing America how all this is supposed to work...so they MUST do something---anything...creating a fight about REPEALING HCR will divert attention from that fact & keep them in the news, morning, noon & night for the next month or so... YES AMERICA…Let the GAMES begin!!! Aren't we LUCKY that they are going to SAVE US ALL...& that they are LISTENING to the AMERICAN PEOPLE!!!

My question --- HOW COULD WE BE SO STUPID...again????
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jnw147
11:04 AM on 01/05/2011
why are the Republicans wasting time trying to repeal something that they can't repeal? President Obama will veto any vote, as he should, to repeal health care.
12:43 PM on 01/05/2011
Why should he. The people spoke at the midterm elections. They didn't want this. They want reform...but not this mess of a bill...

Repeal...start over...listen to both sides of the isle...and the people...and come up with a better HealthCare Bill.

That is what a true leader would do.
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Sunnyd2035
We only have the one planet ....
12:57 PM on 01/05/2011
Please you wouldn't know a real leader if they were standing behind you.

No he should not allow something that has been worked on for over 60 years to be repealed without anything to take its place.
There are good parts to it and the bill should be re-written but in no way shape or form repealed so we can start over from scratch, what a moronic idea.
03:33 AM on 01/06/2011
Listen to both sides of the aisle???? Hah! The Democrats and Obama gave the Republicans everything they wanted... then the Republicans voted against it. They're nuts, and so is anyone who believes any of this crap.

A better health care bill would be MEDICARE PART E. Medicare for All. Using OUR TAX MONEY. (as the rest of the civilized world has). "TAXES ARE THE SWEAT OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE." Health Care, not Corporate Welfare. Health Care, Not War, which is Mass-Murder-for-Profit .

REFORM:
is PUBLICLY FUNDED PUBLIC ELECTIONS and ELIMINATING PRIVATELY OWNED AND RIGGED VOTING MACHINES,

REFORM: Is a government OF, BY AND FOR the 'common good' of OVER 300 MILLION PEOPLE.

"SMALLER GOVERNMENT" IS A CORPORATE FREE-FOR-ALL, because our government is so decimated that they can't even defend The People against Corporate CRIME. Smaller government already has a corrupt Supreme Court and not enough judges or courts to even GET A DIVORCE in a timely manner, let alone prosecute corporate crime. NOT TO MENTION OUR GROWING "PRISON INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX" and the corrupt judges and legislators that funnel prisoners to them.
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Passenger57
Keeping Calm And Carrying On...
11:04 AM on 01/05/2011
THIS is what happens when the midterms come and Dems go, "Meh"...or,"I'm sending Obama a message"...
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Eileenla
Author, "Sacred Economics"
09:32 AM on 01/05/2011
Sure, let's waste more time and energy with political posturing. I mean, that's what we voted for in the last election, right? And to all my fellow citizens who helped shift the house to a Republican majority....shame on you.
08:46 AM on 01/05/2011
A repeal vote could lead to a veto? Ya think?