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House GOP Ends Floor Voting Rights For Delegates

JIM ABRAMS   01/ 5/11 03:36 PM ET   AP

House Gop Delegate Voting Rights

WASHINGTON — One of the first acts of the new Republican-controlled House is to take away the floor voting rights of six delegates representing areas such as the District of Columbia, Puerto Rico, Guam and American Samoa.

Five of those delegates are Democrats, while one, from the Northern Marianas Islands, is an independent.

The GOP decision to rescind the ability of delegates to vote on amendments on the House floor was the predictable outcome of a longtime party divide. Democrats extended the voting rights in 1993 when they controlled the House, Republicans disenfranchised the delegates when they became the majority in 1995 and Democrats restored delegate rights when they regained control of the House in 2007.

"This is a very undemocratic way to start the 112th Congress," said Virgin Islands Del. Donna Christensen. With the new GOP rule, she said, "there are over 4.5 million Americans who don't get input into shaping the final bill."

The partisan battle has always been as much about political symbolism as the actual ability of delegates to influence national policy. Under the Democrats, delegates could vote on the floor on amendments – in what is known as the Committee of the Whole – but not on final passage. And their votes came with the stipulation that they could not change the outcome of a vote.

Delegates do have full voting rights at the committee level and can rise through the committee ranks.

Republicans have long argued that the Constitution, which says the House should be made up of representatives chosen by the "several states," rules out voting by non-state delegates. The office of new House Speaker John Boehner on Tuesday said Boehner "continues to believe . that delegates should not vote in the Committee of the Whole because they constitutionally cannot vote on the House floor."

"It's very apparent to me that we need to focus on the Constitution and (under the Constitution) states are to be represented in the House of Representatives," said House Rules Committee Chairman David Dreier, R-Calif.

Republicans also point out that delegate votes violate the concept of equal representation. The average constituency for the 435 House representatives is about 700,000. While Puerto Rico has a population of almost 4 million and the District of Columbia 600,000, the other four, all territories, are considerably smaller. American Samoa has 95,000 residents, and The Northern Marianas 48,000.

But Democrats counter that, when Republicans sued to reverse the 1993 extension of voting rights, two federal courts ruled that Congress had acted within constitutional bounds. They also point out that the delegates represent U.S. citizens who serve in the military and are fighting and dying in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"To me it is unseemly in the 21st century that anyone would be stripped of a vote," said Del. Eleanor Holmes Norton, who has represented Washington D.C. since 1991.

Norton said the loss of limited voting rights was a "very bitter pill" for the people of the District, who a year ago where within sight of gaining a full vote in the House. The Senate voted to give the District a fully vested representative, but attached an amendment to weaken the District's tough gun control laws that was unacceptable to some House Democrats.

New Washington Mayor Vincent Gray said at a protest rally Tuesday that the GOP move to remove Norton's remaining voting rights was "the most outrageous insult imaginable."

Norton sought to prevent adoption of the new rule by offering a motion to set up a special committee to study the delegate voting issue, but it was defeated on a party-line vote.

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Associated Press writer Jessica Gresko contributed to this report.

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04:07 PM on 02/16/2011
Republicans hate America. They are anti-American. God save us from this hateful bunch of greedy corporatists.
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
12:43 PM on 02/16/2011
Hey Teapartiers, why are you associating with the taxation without representation crowd?
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coreypaul
Gay, Secularist, Socialist, Vegetarian, American
08:52 AM on 01/07/2011
WASHINGTON D.C. HAS CONGRESS FOLKS WHO CAN VOTE WHEN DEMOCRATS HAVE THE MAJORITY, BUT LIKE THIS WEEK, WHEN REPUBS HAVE THE POWER, THEY LOOSE THAT RIGHT AGAIN...ANYONE ELSE SEE SOMETHING WACKO ABOUT THIS?
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12:14 AM on 01/07/2011
Ah, taxation without representation.., I'm sure our Rethug gatekeepers will soon be able to figure out the next step, how to secure an additional tax when folks of these territories travel into the US "proper". When they "visit" there should be some identifiers so we can "watch" them. Arizona's protocol has it's positives, but with the diversities of these territories, we need more concise identifiers. Maybe something we can sew or Velcro on their clothes? Now where have I heard that?
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Lahonda
Bynocent Instander
10:28 PM on 01/06/2011
"The People's House" fails again.
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SPQR1052
08:10 PM on 01/06/2011
Either give them the right to representation or let them GO. FREE THEM. 

You do realize that  the US is in violation  of  international law  and the UN charter by having "territories."   
Those people were suppose to be INCORPORATED long ago I think if I am correct  as early as 1968.
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SPQR1052
08:08 PM on 01/06/2011
I believe that those people ought not have to pay federal taxes or serve in war, period.
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Phxflyer
I think, therefore I am not republican
08:02 PM on 01/06/2011
So now we know republicans believe in taxation without representation. What do you think about that teabaggers?
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12:16 AM on 01/07/2011
That is an excellent question, but you have to consider that most teabaggers don't throw themselves into actual thought.
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stryker
07:12 PM on 01/06/2011
Face it, republicans hate everyone but white people.
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lillianvargas
Sharing my overdeveloped sense of the ridiculous!
07:34 PM on 01/06/2011
I think you better make that repubs hate everyone but other repubs and they only like them if they're the right brand of repub.
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imusintheevening
With,without,who'll deny it's whatthe fights about
12:44 PM on 02/16/2011
you forgot the most important clarification, "rich"
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undsoweiter
but I know where to look it up
07:02 PM on 01/06/2011
Less democracy is better. All of this voting and representing buisness has gotten entirely out of hand.
Thank goodness our Republican constitutionalists have put a stop to it.
Uppity territories.
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Gray Mouser
Former Republican
06:06 PM on 01/06/2011
The fools in the GOP are flinging around the Constitution so frequently lately you would think they were a horse tail swatting flies.

They will come to find they will be hoisted on their own petard. The majority of them have been violating the Constitution for a good while and will be surprised and appalled when they start being denied because 'it ain't in the Constitution.'

Too bad they were this keen when they were fast pathing the Patriot Act through.....
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Hillary 2016
05:57 PM on 01/06/2011
The difference between North Korea and The GOP led Congress.. Their waist line...
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rhdsma
05:04 PM on 01/06/2011
What does the Constitution say about letting the Supreme Court intervene in elections?
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rustysc
One of the many "little People"
04:54 PM on 01/06/2011
Doesn't it just make your heart beat a little faster to know the destruction has begun?
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hang319
had to sell stock to live on in college
04:48 PM on 01/06/2011
Perfect. Those jackwads are going to cite the Constitution for every move they make. That is going to bite them in the butt before this is all over with.
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T2inDC
05:40 PM on 01/06/2011
Only if the Administration starts highlighting these hypocrisies. Start up the PR machine!
08:37 PM on 01/06/2011
They read it but they don't understand it - nor do they really care to. Like 9/11 first responders and future generations, it's one of the "patriotic" things they talk about without actually caring about what it means in practice.