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Budget-Cutter Paul Ryan Still Not Entirely Clear How He Plans To Cut The Budget

First Posted: 01/05/11 05:11 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:25 PM ET

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Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), the incoming chairman of the House Budget Committee, has generally been held out to be some genius solutioneer-in-waiting. And it seems to hardly matter a whit to anyone that his plans to cut taxes and rein in spending would raise taxes on most Americans and blow out the budget deficit. Ryan is handsome and personable and can talk in complete sentences, and these facts alone pretty much put him in the upper percentile of talent in just about any House of Representatives.

But we're still waiting for Ryan to sort of deliver on the hype, so I'm somewhat sympathetic to the frustrations felt by Matt Finkelstein, writing up this encounter between Ryan and Meredith Vieira for Political Correction:

MEREDITH VIEIRA (HOST): You say discretionary spending -- give me specifics. Where are you going to cut? Are you gonna cut transportation, education, Medicare -- what are you going to cut?

RYAN: That is what is gonna happen in the appropriations process down the road. So I can't tell you the answer to that because, as a budget committee person, we simply lower the cap and then those things go down. We're gonna be reducing all domestic discretionary spending. I can't tell you by what amount and which program, but all of it is going to be going down, and the aggregate amount will be back to 2008 levels before the spending binge occurred.

I understand what Ryan is driving at here -- as Budget chair, he's going to exercise some sort of newly-imagined unilateral and unchecked power to set budgetary levels and then, in a process that's technically distinct, the Appropriations Committee will make choices. And if Ryan wants to pretend that he doesn't meet in a "House Republican Conference" or have any specific discussions about what programs his colleagues plan to cut, that's his right, I guess. God knows Sunday-morning political chat-show viewers have been treated to an endless array of GOP figures who refuse to answer the question, "What will you cut?" because any answer to that question could cost them votes. I suppose there remains a possibility that to this day, none of them have any idea what to do!

But the whole reason that anyone invites Paul Ryan to come on the teevee and answer questions is because he is reputed to have authored "The Roadmap For America's Future." In the words of the Claremont Institute, the Roadmap is "ambitious, even audacious," its "details are extensive, and interesting," and it is the singular reason that Ryan is "famous." Now, the House GOP isn't obliged to adopt it, in its entirety -- in fact, resistance to the Roadmap begins with John Boehner. But surely Ryan is obliged to answer essential questions, like: "How do we get there from here?"

I mean, he authored the roadmap! Surely he has some sort of opinion on the matter, or can suggest some options. But his answers to Vieira -- he'll set an arbitrary budget level and the rest will take care of itself -- seem to pretend otherwise. If the passenger in my car asks me, "Which road are we taking to get to our destination?" it would probably be unnerving to hear me answer, "That will come about as a consequence of whatever steering happens. My job is simply to press the accelerator."

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Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), the incoming chairman of the House Budget Committee, has generally been held out to be some genius solutioneer-in-waiting. And it seems to hardly matter a whit to anyone that...
Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), the incoming chairman of the House Budget Committee, has generally been held out to be some genius solutioneer-in-waiting. And it seems to hardly matter a whit to anyone that...
 
 
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Longtimeliberal
07:53 AM on 01/29/2011
Let the American people decide-do they want social security privatised or raise the cap on FICA? Do they want higher taxes on the wealthiest Americans or do they want a voucher for Medicare? The answer to both is pretty easy you just have to say it straight.
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Cleverboots
11:12 PM on 01/09/2011
What's Paul Ryan's excuse? He's known for months that the Republicans would probably win the House. For a smart guy, he's carrying on the Republican tradition of boast and bluster without facts to back him up.
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peedropaula
VOTE! It's the least you can do.
05:34 PM on 01/07/2011
This brings to mind the Underpants Gnomes episode of South Park...

1. Cap Spending
2. Cut Taxes
3. ???
4. Profit
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04:46 PM on 01/08/2011
Except it's a straight line from cutting *corporate* taxes and billionaires' taxes, to receiving campaign contributions. There is no "???" here.
11:53 AM on 01/07/2011
I recall a Budget Committee hearing with Ben Bernanke on CSPAN in which Bernanke testified that they main cause of the recession was the result of President Bush's economic policies, and you could clearly see Paul Ryan saying, "that's BS."

If Ryan has the "it's not us" mentality he lacks the knowledge which is required to be a fair and impartial budget committee member. The Budget Committee's paramount objective is to understand the causes of the recession. While Bush may not be the lone culprit, it's imperative that he (Ryan) is aware of all causes, and his push to extend the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy proves he is not what he's billed as.
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Jced
I'd love to kiss ya...but, I just washed my hair!!
10:16 AM on 01/07/2011
I think we should immediately STOP all wars and stop giving one red cent to every, every foreign country now! Bring all that money home. I'm sick to death of giving Billions of dollars to India, Pakistan, etc...
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06:30 PM on 01/07/2011
And still seeing jobs flying OUT of this country.
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Levonsky
a fan of enlightened self interest
09:18 AM on 01/07/2011
I wonder if gopper supporters realize that after they are done with the rest of us that they are next on the menu.
Just cause they may be on their side doesn't mean that they will be spared.
Maybe then they will realize the full meaning and bankruptcy of regressive policies that have been in effect for the last thirty years.
I doubt it, for though they have eyes, they will not see.
12:20 AM on 01/07/2011
Paul Ryan has the potential to rise to the top in Congress and could be a candidate for President sometime in the future. He is not only savvy, he is well educated to go with the commonsense approach to reducing costs and applying rational budget cuts. Apparently neither of which the Dems have either been able to or wanted to do. One of the first things he has cleared up is the discrepancy between the CBO estimate of Obamacare versus the first blush of anyone who thinks rationally about these costs. Apparently the Dems cooked the books by double counting certain incomes into the system, counted 10 years of income against 6 years of cost, left out the added costs of offsetting the doctor cost issue ($250 Billion), and then forced $500 Billion of unspecified cost reduction out of Medicare, and still could not make it deficit neutral. When the CBO reran the numbers for Ryan with these fixes out, Obamacare will start out with a budget deficit of $750 Billion dollars, and we know that it will do nothing but increase from that. So, one of the first cost reduction programs should be the repeal and replacement of Obamacare.
12:02 PM on 01/07/2011
Observation, knowledge and perspective is a requirement of a "star" Republican up and comer, and Ryan is neither of those. He lacks the ability to look at the budget from a realistic view... in other words he's only fighting for the Republican Party without the best interests of America as a whole.
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EddieRascal5
Fear is the mindkiller..
02:02 PM on 01/07/2011
I do not recall the "Obamacare" bill. I do recall the healthcare reform act passed by Congress. Yeah it has been a great time to reduce federal spending the last two years. It would have been better to see if we could go full scale depression. CBO is nonpartisan right?
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06:32 PM on 01/07/2011
CBO estimates for Obama's HCR were based on double counting Medicare cuts.
06:36 PM on 01/07/2011
Yes it is the same CBO whom in 1967 projected that Medicare would cost almost 10 MILLION by 1990.

Well in 1990, Medicare was well above 110 million. Thats a big woops!
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MarieB
11:59 PM on 01/06/2011
I received an expensive looking, four sided, color brochure in the mail today from Congressman Ryan. Under his return address it said: This mailing was prepared, published and mailed at taxpayer expense. I wonder how much that cost the taxpayers?
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06:45 PM on 01/07/2011
That's a perk for ANY Member of Congress under U.S. Code.
http://www.peo7.com/UsStateCode/PEOusLabor_Section922.htm

Do you really think the taxpayer didn't pay for all the Dems jaunting around the country trying to sell HCR? I wonder if we paid Clinton to face music at the WH Presser about Obama's tax compromise?
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Nel Pineda
11:27 PM on 01/06/2011
CUT medicare. Let old people die. Good for the economy! Just let them be free of pain!
Then recite the constitution. then go back to your districts and say "See we brought down spending". Medicare is the fuel of private medical businesses.
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hotbarb2614
proud military mother
08:29 PM on 01/06/2011
Gee Paul I have a better idea ,Let's tax all those millionaires that got huge tax breaks the last ten years and didn't create on damm job. Let's start with all those millionaires in the house and Senate that don't need the pay.
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bayman
08:24 PM on 01/06/2011
The GOP has campaigned on cutting the budget for a year, and they still can't identify what they'll cut? Perhaps they'll offer an idea by the time they get voted out of office in 2012.
07:06 PM on 01/06/2011
How to cut the budget? Use the simple rule: Feel our pain.

Then you will:
Cut income for all elected officiails by 80%

Make no allowances for healthcare. Elected official should be self-insured, out-of-pocket no insurnace.

No staff nor it's expenses - we elected YOU not them. Do your own work like the rest of us,
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MarieB
12:02 AM on 01/07/2011
There ya go!
heckmepitus
Truth, justice and the American way
05:55 PM on 01/06/2011
Rofl, now the Democrats are bitching about spending and unemployment! Shoot, next Liberals will discover the Iraq and Afghanistan Wars are still going on and Obama started another war in Pakistan.
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admiralj
I support the Stewart/Colbert ticket in '14
09:48 PM on 01/06/2011
Please, tell me why your party (the repubs) decided to go to war in the first place and NOT fund the wars they started? Unemployment, why did the repubs give tax breaks to companies to ship jobs overseas? You do know that big business closed 40,000 factories and moved them overseas. Besides the loss of jobs, how much in tax receipts did cities, counties and states lose with the closing of those factories? How many millions in lost tax dollars did just that move cost this country? Maybe you should look at the facts, not just listen to the propaganda offered by your party. Then you will understand why this country is in the terrible shape its in.

Oh, and because you don't seem to understand that if the enemy flees from Afghanistan to Pakistan. And you chase the fleeing enemy into another country it doesn't mean you are starting another war with another country.

It's the democrats who are now having the last laugh at republicans.
12:11 PM on 01/07/2011
Shoot, Dick Cheney wanted us to take on Iran and Syria along with Iraq and Afghanistan... most absolutely insane.

Al Qaeda's mission is to provoke the US into wars in as many Middle East countries as possible to spread our military apparatus thin and to wear the troops down... which the Bush Administration did with overwhelming success.
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LMPE
I connect the most dissimilar things
05:09 PM on 01/06/2011
The do-nothing congress returns!
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kdlaiusa
Even B&B are smarter than the Republicans.
12:02 AM on 01/07/2011
If the last Congress ended as lame duck, then the new one started as dead duck. So Boehner is the Weeper of the dead duck Congress.
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Phxflyer
I think, therefore I am not republican
05:01 PM on 01/06/2011
New SAT question:

Paul Ryan is to math as McDonald's is haute cuisine.
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kdlaiusa
Even B&B are smarter than the Republicans.
12:04 AM on 01/07/2011
This so called young gun is actually a dead pistol which can't fire.