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CBO: Health Care Repeal Would Up Deficit By $230 Billion

First Posted: 01/06/11 12:14 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:25 PM ET

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WASHINGTON -- Repealing health care reform will add $230 billion to the deficit over the next decade, leave 32 million fewer people with insurance and lead to higher costs for those who are covered, the Congressional Budget Office said in a letter to House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) Thursday.

CBO Director Doug Elmendorf elaborated on the analysis in a blog post:

As a result of changes in direct spending and revenues, CBO expects that enacting H.R. 2 would probably increase federal budget deficits over the 2012-2019 period by a total of roughly $145 billion (on the basis of the original estimate), plus or minus the effects of technical and economic changes that CBO and JCT will include in the forthcoming estimate. Adding two more years (through 2021) brings the projected increase in deficits to something in the vicinity of $230 billion, plus or minus the effects of technical and economic changes.

House Democrats quickly pounced on the report. "The Congressional Budget [O]ffice confirms that just one day after taking over the House, the Republican rhetoric on fiscal discipline doesn't meet the reality test ..." Rep. Sander Levin (D-Mich.), the ranking Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee, said in a statement.

The CBO has been touted by both major political parties as a key arbiter on the possible costs of major legislation -- as long as the office's conclusions bolster their case. During the health care debate that dominated nearly a full year of the last congressional session, then-House Minority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) repeatedly invoked the budget office's figures in order to argue that health care reform was a bad idea.

"We have a better way," Cantor said in a Feb. 23 interview with ABC's "Good Morning America," referring to a GOP health care proposal. "We had a vote on our plan and it's a plan that is focused very squarely on bringing down costs and health care costs for the American people. ... Our House bill is validated by the Congressional Budget Office and will bring down health care insurance premiums."

In this case, however, Republicans took issue with the scoring, saying it didn't look at the full picture.

"There is no one that believes the Washington Democrats' job-killing healthcare law will lower costs, because it won't," said Boehner spokesman Michael Steel. "That's why we pledged to repeal it, and replace it with common-sense reforms that will actually work. As Budget Chairman Paul Ryan has noted, the CBO score excludes the $115 billion needed to implement the law. It double-counts $521 billion in Social Security payroll taxes, CLASS Act premiums, and Medicare cuts. It strips a costly doc-fix provision that was included in initial score. It measures 10 years of revenues to offset 6 years of new spending. Even the Administration's own actuaries have said it won't reduce the deficit."

Beyond 2019, the CBO estimates that repealing health care will continue to affect the federal deficit "by an amount that is in a broad range around one-half percent of GDP, plus or minus the effects of technical and economic changes that CBO and JCT will include in the forthcoming estimate." In the following decade, the office report concludes, "the effect of H.R. 2 on federal deficits as a share of the economy would probably be somewhat larger."

Repeal, which Republicans are planning to vote on Jan. 12, also carries bad news for the uninsured. Under the GOP's "Repealing the Job-Killing Health Care Law Act" (H.R. 2), the CBO estimates that 32 million fewer non-elderly Americans would have health insurance in 2019, resulting in a total of about 54 million non-elderly uninsured.

Premiums in the individual market may go down, the CBO acknowledged, but said that would be because "the average insurance policy in this market would cover a smaller share of enrollees' costs for health care and a slightly narrower range of benefits."

"Although premiums in the individual market would be lower, on average, under H.R. 2 than under current law, many people would end up paying more for health insurance -- because under current law, the majority of enrollees purchasing coverage in that market would receive subsidies via the insurance exchanges, and H.R. 2 would eliminate those subsidies," the office report added.

Premiums for employment-based coverage from large employers would also go up, the budget office concluded, while the effect on coverage from small employers is more unclear.

Ryan Grim contributed reporting.

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WASHINGTON -- Repealing health care reform will add $230 billion to the deficit over the next decade, leave 32 million fewer people with insurance and lead to higher costs for those who are covered, t...
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mikey09 04:29 PM on 01/06/2011
Our government telling us what something will cost or decrease costs is a joke, they haven't gotten a single one of these things right EVER....if they say something will cost 10$, the cost is 100$, if they say it will save us 10$ it still costs 100$
 
And we know not to count on over-sight committee's....look at how well the Banking Committee oversaw the Banks...LOL......and can't count on  Read More...
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Independent66
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09:53 PM on 01/09/2011
No one is listening to the false claims by the Feds because they are so good at lying. You can't put 30m people on Medicaid and make insurance carriers cover more stuff, and expect costs to go down. Small businesses are seeing healthcare costs rise 10-20% this year! Fraud is running at an estimated $150B in Medicare alone! We will be slaves to the government masters if we continue down the path we are on! Individuals are losing their individual rights and ability to make their own decisions.
02:44 PM on 01/08/2011
How does taxing for 10 years and benefits for 6 pass as legitimate?
02:36 PM on 01/08/2011
Lol! So ending the spending for Obama-care will cost money? Really

RPD
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08:42 AM on 01/08/2011
Repealing the HCR bill results in job loss from 250K up to 400K annually.

http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2011/01/07/health-care-reform-repeal-to-kill-jobs.html

So in the interest of accuracy, the Republican plan should be called 'Repealing Health Care Reform Kills Jobs Act'.
05:46 PM on 01/07/2011
Would someone please explain how the Health Care Legislation is "Job Killing"? Like precisely, not just b.s. rhetoric.
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oldngrumpy
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06:21 PM on 01/07/2011
I would suggest that anyone who believes that it is should do a bit of research. All of the countries where business is now investing and creating jobs have "socialist" health care programs.
08:20 AM on 01/08/2011
The Republicans are lying through their teeth, the facts actually show repealing the HCR bill would kill jobs.

Baseline number for the jobs lost annually by repealing the bill is 250K and up to 400K.

http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2011/01/07/health-care-reform-repeal-to-kill-jobs.html

http://thinkprogress.org/2011/01/07/hcr-repeal-costs-jobs/
04:12 PM on 01/07/2011
Why does anyone here agree with the CBO? The CBO is gamed by both parties and them now saying that the HC bill will not raise taxes is ridiculous.

Don't believe me. This is the same CBO that in 2001 said with present economic conditions (And remember the economy grew from 01-08) we would have a 5.6 trillion dollar budget surplus, and the Bush tax cuts would only knock out 1.6 trillion of that leaving 4 trillion in the bank.

Same CBO. The concept of building a 10 year forecast model requiring thousands of assumptions is incredibly difficult and the CBO is more often wrong than it is right. Just look at the number of new regulations this will bring and ask yourself logically if this will cost less. It is impossible. The bill increases demand, stifles the profit initiative, which will decrease supply. It will be a loss for us all.
02:56 PM on 01/07/2011
Now the REAL STORY of the deficit cutting LIE has come out! Yet the progressives still think that government spending other people's money SAVES money!

http://spectator.org/blog/2011/01/07/breaking-cbo-says-repealing-ob
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oldngrumpy
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03:54 PM on 01/07/2011
We give you "spectator" about the same amount of respect that you would give to "the nation" so stop wasting your time.
03:59 PM on 01/07/2011
So it should be easy for you or anyone else to show that it is wrong! Numbers do not lie.

The story tells how Obama Care is set up to TAX more than it spends on health care. That is how is saves money. More taxes than spending!

Another lie from the big government crowd. The party does not matter. It is another government rip-off!
08:27 AM on 01/08/2011
The HCR bill 'isn't spending other people's money' any more than any other bill is. All legislation costs money. Living in a civil society costs money. And, many private companies provide jobs and exist because they do business with the government. Grow up.

But repealing the HCR bill adds $230B to the deficit and KILLS JOBS. The most conservative estimate of the job loss due to the Republican's plan to repeal the bill is 250K annually.

http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/news/2011/01/07/health-care-reform-repeal-to-kill-jobs.html

Typical conservative blundering. Their ideology has no basis in reality and the unintended consequences actually result in exactly the opposite of what they claim.
08:37 PM on 01/08/2011
Actually READ the story about how the bill is funded and what is spent. Government taxes the people another $750 billion dollars and then spends only $530 billion on health care! The $230 billion added to the deficit is the loss of the extra money that is NOT spent on health care.

More taxes that do NOT go to the area of spending that people like it is going. The ADDING TO THE DEFICIT story is another lie from government!

You make think everythings gone green but what you are focusing on is getting government to spend other people's green on YOU!
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ReagansHeroes
I'm retiring and now reject fiscal conservatism...
10:38 AM on 01/07/2011
It's amazing that this article left out two small details from the CBO estimate...

"Relative to current law, enacting H.R. 2 would, CBO estimates, increase
federal budget deficits in the decade following 2019; similarly, the
legislation would increase budget deficits in the decade following 2021 and
in subsequent years."

"Last March, CBO estimated that enacting PPACA and the relevant
provisions of the Reconciliation Act would increase the “federal budgetary
commitment to health care” by about $400 billion over the 2010–2019
period; CBO uses that term to describe the sum of net federal outlays for
health programs and tax preferences for health care."

Why doesn't this article tell us that the outlay for this bill will be $400 billion from the federal government. To stop this bill you actually save $400 billion. In addition, the bill will increase the deficit starting 2019 for the next decade even if you include the new taxes and revenue. Duh... everyone knows the first year you have 10 years of revenue and only 6 years of government outlay since the coverage starts in 2014. How come they don't want you to know that?

See the CBO report yourself at:

http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/120xx/doc12040/01-06-PPACA_Repeal.pdf
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/120xx/doc12040/01-06-PPACA_Repeal.pdf
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oldngrumpy
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03:49 PM on 01/07/2011
What taxes have begun now? Most of the bill doesn't take effect until 2014. Progressives are the ones who wanted immediate action, and it was Obama's conciliation to Republicans that kept that from happening. Hopefully, that was a phase that he has outgrown.

Reinstating the Medicare advantage boondogle will only continue to shovel taxpayer money to drug companies and insurance providers to the tune of $500 billion+ over the next decade. Republican accountants seem to feel free to shift this number into their calculations wherever it suits their agenda. The bottom line is that Medicare can provide the same services and benefits at less than half the cost. Let the insurers peddle "premium" policies on their own if they wish and the "free market" will support it. I thought that was the "conservative" answer to everything.
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AnnfromCA
10:19 AM on 01/07/2011
Even Lawrence Sullivan laughed at the CBO numbers today on MSN.  NOBODY buys it.
02:57 PM on 01/07/2011
The TRUTH will out!

http://spectator.org/blog/2011/01/07/breaking-cbo-says-repealing-ob
08:36 AM on 01/08/2011
Typical conservative, when the CBO numbers fit your agenda they're gospel and when they don't they're wrong.
10:12 AM on 01/07/2011
More Republican magic.....­.

1.1M and counting-reading Constitution
230 Billion - repealing HCR

Abandoning Pay-Go

Looks like we're going to double the national debt yet again.
11:23 AM on 01/07/2011
When did the D's EVER follow Paygo? It didn't happen and to think it did is ridicuolous. Since Pelosi was sworn in, she saw over $5 Trillion in additional debt. There was no Paygo at all.
12:43 PM on 01/07/2011
When did the R's ever tax and spend as opposed to borrow and spend??

Seemed to me we were in great shape when Clinton left office.

Who charged two foolish wars?

Who spent us into oblivion?

Who doubled the national debt?

Who is going to double the national debt yet again?

Who will bring this country to it's knees?
10:00 AM on 01/07/2011
And don't forget to add $1.1million from reading The Constitution aloud on the House floor...the GOP's new "show"...
Interesting economics.
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AnnfromCA
10:21 AM on 01/07/2011
It's only interesting in that such a sophomoric criticism was written about.  Well, that's not entirely fair.  The other absurd criticism was that it should have included amended portions.
 
That was a doozy of an editorial slant.  No wonder Dems lost so big.  Most Americans aren't interested in this kind of silly talk.
08:30 AM on 01/08/2011
When you ignore the parts of the Constitution we had to change, you ignore our history. You mythologize the document, pretend it was without flaw and pretend the bad stuff never existed.

And honey, you do not speak for most Americans.
01:34 PM on 01/07/2011
Congress can't read -- has to have the Constitution read to them. The Constitution is an easy read but, by contrast, the many bills that come before congress are long and complicated reading, much of it legal language. Should congress be required to take a written test after reading each bill (or have the bill read to them) to see how many understand the bill before they vote on it?. Test results should be put in the public record.
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TPaine1776
09:30 AM on 01/07/2011
Please look at the CBOs past record. Not very accurate.
02:58 PM on 01/07/2011
The HP wrote too soon! Now the REAL story has come out.

http://spectator.org/blog/2011/01/07/breaking-cbo-says-repealing-ob
08:30 AM on 01/08/2011
I see. So when it fits your agenda it's accurate and when it doesn't it isn't.
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TPaine1776
08:21 AM on 01/10/2011
What do you know about my agenda?
08:49 AM on 01/07/2011
The only ones that will have healthcare are the poor - everyone else won't be able to afford it!
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ReagansHeroes
I'm retiring and now reject fiscal conservatism...
10:40 AM on 01/07/2011
Don't worry, everyone will have healthcare if the Democrats succeed.... everyone will be taxed and regulated until we are all poor.
11:15 AM on 01/10/2011
What value do insurance companies bring to the system?
08:32 AM on 01/08/2011
The greed of the insurance companies, an entity that brings absolutely nothing to the table, will push us toward a national program where everyone will have access to affordable care.
08:47 AM on 01/07/2011
The numbers are all cooked - that should be apparent to everyone.
09:09 AM on 01/07/2011
and yet these are numbers and methods used by both parties for years. Interesting the numbers are now being questioned
11:29 AM on 01/07/2011
They use them because they can craft it so that the CBO will grade it well. Remember when this same bill had to go back so CBO could re-grade it? And then on top of that, they take out the doc fix etc. and drop billions from the projections and put that into a completely separate bill. Voila, better rating and numbers! Go back and look historically how dismal the CBO projections have been, especially when it comes to entitlements.
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AnnfromCA
10:21 AM on 01/07/2011
Optimistic, for sure.
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studmoose
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08:41 AM on 01/07/2011
Boehner cited CBO numbers dozens of times in the past year as justification for things.
 
NOW, he has a problem with them and is discounting their neutral findings?
 
I guess this gives the green light to the Democrats to discount the next CBO ruling that benefits the Republicans - after all, if there are so wrong here - they could be so wrong elsewhere?
02:59 PM on 01/07/2011
Here's the real story:

http://spectator.org/blog/2011/01/07/breaking-cbo-says-repealing-ob