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Joe Scarborough, Glenn Beck Feud Erupts (VIDEO)

First Posted: 01/12/11 10:00 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:25 PM ET

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A war of words erupted between Joe Scarborough and Glenn Beck on Tuesday, after Scarborough said that Beck was delivering a "vile message to Americans every day," and Beck said that Scarborough could never back up his assertions with facts.

Scarborough spoke on Tuesday's "Morning Joe." He was talking about his hope that amped-up media rhetoric would cool down in the wake of the Arizona shooting, and he used Beck as an example:

"I have a lot of family members that listen to him and watch him and are frightened by the things that he says every night with his chalkboard...my mom and a lot of other people like her that watch him every day start to believe if they hear every day, every day, that there's this guy in Washington D.C., this black guy that hates all white people and he wants to take your money . . . and he wants to destroy the country you grew up in. You feed that vile message to Americans every day, it's going to have an impact."

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Scarborough also said that Beck was a "nobody" until Fox News chief Roger Ailes brought him to his network. "If Roger Ailes decides to kick him out of Fox News, he'll go back to the Glenn Beck he was before," he said.

Beck--and, especially, his radio sidekicks--responded later on Tuesday. Beck's co-host Pat Gray was the most outraged by Scarborough's statements.

"How do you know what Glenn Beck says and does," he almost screamed. "You moron. Joe, there's a reason that everyone you know listens to and watches Glenn's show, including your mom, and not yours: you suck!"

But Beck also had some words for Scarborough."Every day on their show you hear about how the Tea Parties are violent," he said. "What is the difference, except that one has facts to back it up and one does not?"

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marriea
01:52 PM on 03/01/2011
Glen Becks is to white folks what Louis Farrakan is to black folk. Problem is if you listen to the rhetoric long enough, you start to see what they see. Listen to them if you must, but turn the volume down real low, like to zero.
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me the z
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05:09 PM on 01/23/2011
It's amazing that this guy can't figure out the simple reason he has higher ratings than Joe. Joe is a smart man, but he is very conservative. Progressives don't want our news to have a conservative spin, thank you. Tea party/"neo-con" types appear to prefer vile, hate and fear-filled rhetoric. Who is left to watch Joe? It's not that he doesn't deserve better ratings. It's that there is no significant market for reasonable conservatism in the USA right now. If you want to mobilize the right, use hate and fear. What is unclear at times is what it takes to mobilize the left.
09:41 AM on 01/15/2011
Let's look at the substance here. Scarborough makes a passionate argument against the incendiary content on Beck's show and refuses to cut to a commercial until he finishes. Beck and his buddy spend most of their response gloating over ratings statistics, demonstrating they are more beholden to their advertisers than Scarborough.
09:32 AM on 01/15/2011
At 7:50 of the Beck clip, it's funny to hear the segment of Scarborough saying, "Turn the music down!" meaning he's refusing cut to a commercial while he's in the middle of making his point. Beck's buddy then starts to make a point and Beck interrupts saying, "We gotta do a break".
08:30 AM on 01/15/2011
one more thing...what he does say day after day is that no one's word should jbe assumed to be true, not even his words...he implores all his viewers to check the facts...so check the facts about what he actually says "day after day"
08:27 AM on 01/15/2011
An elderly family member's religion teaches their followers not to be political, but their congregation has been advised to watch fox news, and Glenn Beck in particular, since at least 2009. Fox is documenting the end times, as far as they're concerned. Perhaps Beck is one of the horsemen of the apocalypse.

It is bad enough this family member is daily awaiting the end of the world. We really don't need Beck and his ilk essentially preaching that all the prophecies are currently coming to pass. We've learned that Beck does have a religious angle to his work, and I think that he's not only politically dangerous to our country, but possibly spiritually abusive as a sort of false prophet.
03:26 PM on 02/26/2011
He is a false prophet. You know how many times people thought the end of the world was coming. WWI, WWII so ooooon and so forth.
08:16 AM on 01/15/2011
Cult of Personality...
03:10 AM on 01/15/2011
Nero fiddled while Rome burned, and Beck, along with Limbaugh, will do the same when America burns. Limbaugh will take his millions and move to France (he's a francophile, believe it or not), and Beck will disappear into the fundamentalist Mormon community, to live happily on his Goldline-funded nest egg with his n wives.
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rainkitty
Lively up yourself.
02:17 AM on 01/15/2011
"I think the conservative movement does a great disservice if they don’t look in the mirror and look at the extreme elements that say they want their constituents to be armed and dangerous, that use gun sites on campaign maps. They call the president a racist that hates all white people. There are offensive voices out there and they need to be toned down and FOX News needs to be toned down.”
- Joe Scarborough
08:57 AM on 01/15/2011
Joe----Did GLENN really say that---a quote would be nice with time and date----
But I doubt you can
02:25 PM on 01/16/2011
Lawg... you mean you really have never heard of this incident? Yes, Glenn said it. YouTube it. I might not agree with everything Scarborough says, but the guy at least does not fabricate facts like Beck does.
03:29 PM on 02/26/2011
Yeah he did. It has your attention but you'll justify it or warp to your way of thinking I'm sure lol. Your Cult leader wanna-be knows his stuff lol.
01:40 AM on 01/15/2011
It's so easy to claim the facts are on your side when you don't have to actually prove it!
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gibson guy
08:20 AM on 01/15/2011
Beck's show may be the most "fact free" show on Fox.
12:31 AM on 01/15/2011
It is what it is... when ratings are what matter, commentators say what is provocative! That's just my take on the situation.
08:05 AM on 01/15/2011
Not actually knowing who the ratings side with on this matter I really want to point out to you that the phrase "it is what it is" is entirely meaningless. What is what, and which is which?
Also, why is it even passable for our pundits to simply be provocative? Shouldn't we hope that their level of discourse is higher than that which we normally have in our homes and diners, so they can teach us new facts, and force us to think for ourselves? I really don't think our political commentators should be shock jocks.
06:58 PM on 01/14/2011
The saddest thing i can see here, is how this article has generated so many comments, while the real news stories only generate a percentage of what I see here.

Just for the record, I'm a left leaning independent.
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06:21 PM on 01/14/2011
Beck's sidekick sounds like a guy who skipped his anger-management class. It's just painful on the ears.
05:34 PM on 01/14/2011
i watch morning joe daily and have not ever heard joe say that tea parties are violent. post the clips to back you up.
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Skip Chalker
05:21 PM on 01/14/2011
I can see why Beck has Pat Gray as his co-host. He is almost as eloquent as Beck. Although I may not always agree with Joe Scarborough, he does think about his opinions, which can not be said for Beck. And I do agree with Joe on this one.
06:15 PM on 01/14/2011
Because Joe has facts?