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Chuck Schumer: The Numbers Aren't There For Major Gun Control Legislation

First Posted: 01/16/11 11:26 AM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:25 PM ET

Chuck Schumer

WASHINGTON -- The possibility of passing major or even moderately impactful gun control legislation in the wake of the shootings in Tucson, A.Z. is remote, Senator Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) acknowledged on Sunday.

"Look," he told NBC's "Meet the Press," "let's be honest here. There haven't been the votes in the congress for gun control. We have had some victories. ... But make no mistake about it: The changes are hard. Senator [Dianne] Feinstein tried to bring the assault weapons ban back on the floor. It didn't pass. So we are looking for things where we could maybe find some common ground and get things done."

In light of the political math, Schumer said that he and his colleagues would focus more on filling in the obvious gaps in current laws than in reintroducing far-reaching legislation. There would be, he said, an effort to tighten the restrictions on those categorized as mentally ill or drug abusers from purchasing weapons. Additionally, the senator would push for better information-sharing mechanisms between the military and law-enforcement personnel so as to flag potentially troubled individuals. On these two fronts, Schumer personally wrote Attorney General Eric Holder on Sunday, demanding quick action (the letter is pasted below).

Schumer also suggested that the party would push legislation, sponsored by Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) and Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.), to limit the size of high-capacity clips or magazines, which allow shooters to fire up to 33 bullets before reloading.

But even on that seemingly low-hanging fruit -- which his office confirmed he supports -- he sounded skeptical that much could get done, in part, he explained, because the drop in gun violence in recent years has moved the issue to the backburner of the public's collective consciousness.

Schumer's co-panelist, Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okl.), said he would oppose legislation limiting the size of clips or magazines. He did, however, add that he would be "willing to work with Senator Schumer and anybody else who wants to make sure that people who are mentally ill cannot get and use a gun."

Here is Schumer's letter to Holder:

I write today regarding the tragic events which took place this past Saturday in Tucson, Arizona. I believe that this senseless and savage attack requires a reexamination of whom we allow to purchase firearms.

As you know, current federal law explicitly prohibits the sale or transfer of a firearm to "an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance" (18 USC 922(d)(3)). It has been widely reported that the alleged shooter, Jared L. Loughner, was known to be a regular user of illicit drugs. Indeed, in news reports earlier this week, Army officials confirmed that the gunman was prevented from enlisting in the military because he admitted to using marijuana excessively in his interview with a recruiter. Just as this admission barred his entrance to the military, it should also have disqualified him from purchasing a firearm.

I therefore urge you to examine the issued regulations regarding the legal definition of a drug abuser, and clarify them to include situations in which individuals make an admission of illicit drug use to agents of the federal government, such as military recruiters. In addition, we urge the administration to order military recruiters and other agents of the federal government to report such admissions to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in the future.

Had this reporting requirement been in place, Loughner would likely have been prevented from purchasing a firearm. We should fix this reporting loophole so that future tragedies can be prevented.

Thank you for your prompt consideration and attention to this important matter. I look forward to your response.


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WASHINGTON -- The possibility of passing major or even moderately impactful gun control legislation in the wake of the shootings in Tucson, A.Z. is remote, Senator Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) acknowledged ...
WASHINGTON -- The possibility of passing major or even moderately impactful gun control legislation in the wake of the shootings in Tucson, A.Z. is remote, Senator Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) acknowledged ...
 
 
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who38 02:58 PM on 01/16/2011
Doesn't have the votes?  That is no excuse for not presenting the legislation.  It should be presented daily with each Congressperson having to register his/her vote.  The American people need to know how their Congresspeople stand  on this issue.  My guess is that there would be a weekly increase in support for gun control.

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Bankerrkt
He's making things worse.
08:43 PM on 01/18/2011
"let's be honest here. There haven't been the votes in the congress for gun control."

Finally a moment of political honesty from Chuckie. Maybe now Libs will find another hobby besides gun control.
04:58 PM on 01/18/2011
Let's push the reset button one more time: Does the 2nd Amendment say the right to keep and bear arms is within a well-regulated militia, or does it say individuals have the right to keep and bear arms? If the latter, than individual gun ownership can be designated a privilege, like a driver's license, and subject to regulation.

Given the composition of the current Supreme Court and under tremendous pressure from the gun lobby, it went with the latter interpretation. But who's to say a future Supreme Court couldn't rule in favor of the former?
05:00 PM on 01/18/2011
Whoops. Meant to say If the FORMER, than individual gun ownership can be designated a privilege, like a driver's license, and subject to regulation­.
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JimInHouston
Arma virumque cano...
02:25 PM on 01/19/2011
The Heller decision is quite clear on this -- see page 1.
(http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/07pdf/07-290.pdf)

You should also read Larry Tribe and the briefs for the case...that way you will see what the bulk of legal scholarship says as well.
05:39 PM on 01/19/2011
Thank you!
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Standard Patriot
"I have not yet begun to fight": John Paul Jones
08:38 AM on 01/18/2011
I happen to own many weapons of all types. Yes, I have a couple assault weapons also. I have a k-bar that far more dangerous, in trained hands, then my KFM4. While I do not support the ban on anything other than fully automatic weapons (and this is only because they are so hard to control even in trained hands), I do support restrictions for mentally ill, or drug-addicted citizens obtaining firearms.
Both my wife and I are veterans and have been trained to use and maintain weapons with the respect they deserve. We follow the laws and are productive members of society. So why is it that we, properly trained gun owners that follow the letter of the law, should be denied the right to "bear arms"?
05:26 PM on 01/18/2011
"I do support restrictio­ns for mentally ill, or drug-addic­ted citizens obtaining firearms."

Are there any such laws on the books in Arizona?
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Standard Patriot
"I have not yet begun to fight": John Paul Jones
09:15 PM on 01/18/2011
Not really sure. I live in Texas and know the Texas laws, not the "patchwork" laws of the entire US.
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JimInHouston
Arma virumque cano...
02:26 PM on 01/19/2011
"Are there any such laws on the books in Arizona? "

You might be able to get that information from handgunlaw.us
08:01 AM on 01/18/2011
That doesn't mean you should try to pass control legislation. Get the tea bags and GOPers on the record as being in favor of public slaughters of innocent people.
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mick621
11:53 PM on 01/17/2011
pathetic that our politicians are so fast to dismiss gun control
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07:47 PM on 01/22/2011
"Politics is the art of the possible"
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rowdiman
Cayman Mitt: Why ya hiding your money?
09:36 PM on 01/17/2011
One question: Who Needs that much Ammo? I'm not a big gun hater but really? WHO NEEDS THAT MANY ROUNDS???
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HisXLNC
No.
10:50 PM on 01/17/2011
We live in a free country where you don't have to prove a need for something before you can own it.
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Seaborn75
05:46 AM on 01/18/2011
We live in a free country where you shouldn't have to live in fear of an armed militia of people with mental illness.
08:05 AM on 01/18/2011
I'm afraid gun owners prove their need for a manhood they do not own every time they buy a gun.
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JimInHouston
Arma virumque cano...
04:46 PM on 01/18/2011
"One question: Who Needs that much Ammo? I'm not a big gun hater but really? WHO NEEDS THAT MANY ROUNDS??? "

Hi caps are used a lot by competition shooters for whom reloading costs time and points.

The person who needs a hi-cap mag most is the DEFENDER in a home. The attacker has already determined time and place and will outfit himself with whatever firearms and ammunition stores he needs. He can carry as much ammo, in mags of all sizes, that he can handle. He may be bringing along his posse, and indeed a large proportion of home invasions involve multiple attackers.

The defender is taken by surprise and likely has only his gun and one magazine at hand. That magazine had BETTER have enough ammo to handle the attacker(s­) who are fully equipped. Defense may require 1 round or it may require 100. There is not way of knowing, and the failure to have enough can be the death of ones entire family. No faceless bureaucrat or ignorant gun-grabbe­r should ever be in the position of determinin­g how many rounds are in that one magazine.
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rowdiman
Cayman Mitt: Why ya hiding your money?
09:13 PM on 01/18/2011
Holy Crap! I'd better hurry and get to Wal-Mart.
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angusmciver
Feels Empty
11:57 AM on 01/21/2011
sounds like you aught to move to a different neighborhood, or do you run guns or drugs for a living. Help me out here.
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VKoval
veteran of vietnam vacation '07
09:26 PM on 01/17/2011
gun control legislation is unconstitutional, no thank you chuck
03:18 AM on 01/18/2011
Legislation for tighter regulation is not unconstitutional.

Get-off of it.

The Constitution doesn't just belong to you.

Legislation IS NOT TAKING YOUR GUNS AWAY.

It's telling irresponsible, spoiled, self-serving, whiny, something-for-nothing, m0orons that you can't have any kind of WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT IT.

If you wanna overthrow the guvment stop hiding behind the Constitution like cowards & go for what you think you know....otherwise step aside & let the grown-ups handle the People's business.
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NWBrunette
Blessed Girl
05:27 PM on 01/17/2011
Okay Chuck, then pass some minor gun control. You know, like the mentally ill shouldn't be able to go out and buy big honkin' clips of ammo whenever they feel like it. Duh. Get a clue and do something for America.
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USMCR
Re-elect NO ONE ! !
08:55 PM on 01/17/2011
You would first have to have a medical system in place that cares enough to actually diagnose, treat and care for those "mentally ill" people.

The only way to have a record of who is or isn't mentally ill is to have a medical system that treats them. We don't have that in the US. These "'mentally ill" people live at home, halfway houses, homeless shelters, under bridges, and in boxes. And as the economy continues to spiral out of control.. You may start to notice everyday they look more and more just like you.
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Rasheed Kalifani Knowles
Nun ya
06:05 AM on 01/19/2011
He[Laughner] certainly did 6 years ago in that high school photo.
05:21 PM on 01/17/2011
Sitting together is good. Now try working together.
05:17 PM on 01/17/2011
never let a crisis go to waste
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BillForObama
Hail to the Chief! HAIL, he is the Chief!!!
05:12 PM on 01/17/2011
OH! HE/SHE WENT TO JARED'S !!!!
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04:12 PM on 01/17/2011
Next to being a weatherman is there a better job than being in Congress? If I ever told my customers I couldn't get the job done they would find someone who could.
05:18 PM on 01/17/2011
and liberals would rejoice at your lack of profitability
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05:23 PM on 01/17/2011
I hope you got insurance on that rentedgraymatter it seems to be defective.
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Lark817
expat in Mexico
03:41 PM on 01/17/2011
My ex-inlaws and spouse own well over a 1,000 guns. The patriarch is a gunsmith by trade and buys and sells guns all over the midwest. The majority of his guns were purchased at gun shows from private owners and no type of registration was required for purchase. The really scary part of this is that my two (grown) children will inherit the arsenal one day.
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Rooster Coburn
Less Gov't + More Responsibility = A Better World
05:06 PM on 01/17/2011
Will they adopt me?
05:18 PM on 01/17/2011
what? and no one in the family has set about to massmurder huge segments of the population.. this can't be
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Lark817
expat in Mexico
08:57 PM on 01/17/2011
lol Nope, the are as responsible with their weapons (bows, rifles, pistols, etc.) as anyone could wish for.
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HisXLNC
No.
09:33 PM on 01/17/2011
It's obvious that all the guns are broken.
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BillForObama
Hail to the Chief! HAIL, he is the Chief!!!
03:39 PM on 01/17/2011
Gun safety laws should never expire!!! Perhaps, they should be amended by responsibl­e people.

That pretty much leaves out republican­s.
05:19 PM on 01/17/2011
that's the problem...not enough gun laws
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mdmccormick
I am tired of this BS
03:12 PM on 01/17/2011
Let’s start small. How about a minimum age for operating let alone owning a gun? I know most states have a minimum of fifteen and a half to get a learners permit to operate a car. Is that to much?
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Hunter3203
Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to b happy
03:21 PM on 01/17/2011
There are minimum age requirements to purchase guns and ammo. However, it is a right of passage for many young people to learn how to shoot or hunt from a parent. Kids also compete in shooting competitions as well. The Olympics have several shooting sports and those participants obviously learned to shoot at a young age. I would argue that these children are raised learning to respect guns and their safe usage.
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mdmccormick
I am tired of this BS
03:29 PM on 01/17/2011
It is all so a right of passage to drive a car. But as a parent I can not buy and let a child use it.
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Hunter3203
Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to b happy
03:40 PM on 01/17/2011
I'm afraid gun ownership is a cultural issue that those who don't own guns or didn't grow up with just don't understand.