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Larry Summers Says Job Growth Around The Corner; Unemployment Above 9 Percent For 20 Months

First Posted: 01/16/11 06:56 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:25 PM ET

Two years into the Obama administration the architect of the president's economic policy remains resolute that, if the nation simply waits, job growth is right around the corner.

"The prospects for starting to see significant employment growth and reductions in unemployment right now are better than they've been in the United States in a number of years," said Larry Summers, who recently left the White House as director of the National Economic Council.

Summers, who arguably more than anyone in the Obama White House shaped the administration's response to the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, said accelerated economic growth is "starting to happen."

"And historically, the behavior of output precedes the behavior of employment," he said during a Sunday interview on CNN's "Fareed Zakaria GPS." "It's a process that, unfortunately, takes time."

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Nearly one in ten American workers is jobless. It's been above 9 percent for 20 consecutive months, the longest such streak since records began in 1948, according to the Labor Department. When Barack Obama took office, the nation's unemployment rate stood at 7.8 percent.

To combat that, the Obama administration should temporarily disregard the growing federal deficit and invest more in repairing the nation's decrepit infrastructure to boost the sagging economy, Summers said.

But his argument runs counter to the administration's approach. Largely focusing on cutting taxes and increasing entitlement spending as a means to end the Great Recession, the Obama White House has struggled to add jobs. Two-thirds of Obama's $800 billion stimulus plan, enacted shortly after he took office in 2009, was devoted to tax breaks and direct payments like increased unemployment benefits. Job growth has been anemic.

Summers said the time has come for the government to invest in repairing the nation's roads, bridges and buildings. Short-term deficit worries should be dismissed, he said, echoing similar arguments by Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke, who began making the case to Congress in June.

"If at a time when we have unemployment approaching 20 percent in construction, and a 10-year bond rate in the neighborhood of 3 percent, if that's not a time to invest in repairing our infrastructure, I can't imagine when there would be a better time," Summers said.

"The main thing we have to do to accelerate the process of job creation is to accelerate economic growth," Summers said. "The most important thing we can do is to raise the demand, the level of demand in our economy, so as to create more output. That's what's most important in the short run."

Once spending increases, jobs will follow, Summers said.

He added that failing to invest in the nation's infrastructure acts like a deficit in that the cost of making needed repairs is passed on to future generations of taxpayers. "Frankly, that's something we've been doing in this country for a long time," Summers said.

The average age of government assets -- like buildings, schools, and roads -- rose to 23.1 years old in 2009, a record, according to Commerce Department data going back to 1925. Highways and streets owned by federal, state and local governments are now on average 24.6 years old. State and local health care facilites average more than 27 years old, data show. Military facilities average 43 years old.

The construction industry has shed 2.1 million jobs since January 2007, Labor Department figures show. The Federal Reserve estimates that the unemployment rate will be around 9 percent at the end of this year. By the next presidential election in 2012, unemployment will be around 8 percent, according to the nation's central bank.

The yield on the 10-year Treasury note closed at 3.3 percent Friday. Treasuries are government debt that allow the government to borrow now and repay its funders later. The federal government was paying double its current rate on 10-year debt as recently as 2000, Federal Reserve data show.

The government paid about 3.9 percent interest on all its debt during the last full month of former President George W. Bush's administration, according to the Treasury Department. Last month, the federal government paid just under 3 percent.

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Two years into the Obama administration the architect of the president's economic policy remains resolute that, if the nation simply waits, job growth is right around the corner. "The prospects for...
Two years into the Obama administration the architect of the president's economic policy remains resolute that, if the nation simply waits, job growth is right around the corner. "The prospects for...
 
 
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themodernleader
07:13 AM on 01/19/2011
   Summers spent considerable time explaining the need for infrastructure programs that would restart construction.  Why didn't he propose that sensible policy when he was economic advisor?  Our construction machinery and personnel are vegitating and rusting in idleness as our nation stagnates and  declines.  And our leaders push for more deregulating of the banks.  This Administration is both incompetent and deranged.
09:19 PM on 01/18/2011
Millionaires and billionaires are always so hopeful about your desperate poor and low mddle class exsitence. I HATE this guy, really!
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
06:20 PM on 01/18/2011
I BELIEVE THAT GREED IS ALSO THE MOTHER (OR MAYBE THE FATHER) OF INVENTION.

I think that the USA would benefit from some GREEDY US citizens that should be encouraged to emulate Henry Ford, Thomas Alva Edison, Alexander Graham Bell, George Westinghouse, Lee Iacocca, George Washington Carver, Thomas Davenport, George Eastman, Philo Taylor Farnsworth, Benjamin Franklin, Robert Hutchings Goddard, Rear Admiral Grace Murray Hopper, Edwin Herbert Land, Cyrus Hall McCormick, Elijah McCoy, Samuel Finley Breese Morse, Elisha Graves Otis, Jonas Salk, Wilbur Wright, Orville Wright and many others to create new industries to make new products that can be sold to the world in order to reverse the US Foreign Trade Deficit and re-build the gold reserves in the USA while enriching these creative individuals.

A side effect could be to create jobs for US citizens to manufacture these products, except that other countries would soon copy these products and infringe upon those patent rights.

I believe that these individuals invented these products and started mass manufacturing mainly because they were GREEDY for more wealth, and secondarily to satisfy their scientific curiosity. Why else would they have worked 16-hour days seven days a week to start their production industry except to earn more US dollars to enrich themselves financially for the benefit of their families financially?
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Silverwolf72
Are We There Yet?
03:58 PM on 01/18/2011
We have become a country based on short term gains and long term failure
Why would companies do business in American in the long run it is better for them.

I could eat paper to save money but after some point my health would suffer and all the money I saved would not matter.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
05:20 PM on 01/18/2011
May I quote you and then modify and finish your second sentence as follows?

"Why would companies do business in American (IF) in the long run it is better for them" (to relocate to more economical cost overseas locations?)

How can the USA re-industrialize to create more US jobs?

What will be the buying power of the US dollar when there are no remaining privately owned US assets that the foreigners want to exchange for the freshly printed US dollars, T-Bills, and US Treasury bonds that they earned by manufacturing the things that US citizens imported and consumed? The USA will very soon run out of title to any assets that foreign manufacturers will want to purchase with their freshly printed US government currencies and securities that they purchase at Federal Reserve auctions with the US Dollars that they earned by making items for US consumers.

What will we do when our US government starts printing currency faster and faster to pay for US federal deficit spending?
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TheTightwireGuy
Attempting to balance reason and passion
03:21 PM on 01/18/2011
But before someone goes off the rails and accuses me of advocating the unconditional lowering of corporate tax rates that is typically promoted by "business advocates" but vilified by "defenders of the people", I encourage you to first read this NoLabels.com blog entry on the topic, along with the accompanying comments:

http://nolabels.org/blog/bipartisan-corporate-tax-extremism-killing-job-growth/
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
03:41 PM on 01/18/2011
Interesting tax proposals on that site, I am going to study those ideas!

But when US labor costs are 25 times as expensive as labor costs in Sri Lanka or the Philippines, and then three or four times as expensive as the more developed Asian countries, and if energy, taxes, environmental compliance cost are only be a tiny percentage of the US costs for the same items, then US businesses cannot afford to employ US citizens or operate in the USA!

The foreigners are usually also better workers, do not complain, do not take sick days off, and are generally thankful for their employment.

International shipping costs are only a small cost factor with the current intermodal systems of today.
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TheTightwireGuy
Attempting to balance reason and passion
01:13 PM on 01/19/2011
I agree that there are dramatic differences in the business costs across these markets, and that is not a cure all to the competitive differences between the US and other political-economic environments, but I believe that this is a policy option that (a) a sound policy system and (b) can be accepted by enough among the various camps in our gridlocked debate over business policy to get passed into law if enough people examine the merits of doing so.
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TheTightwireGuy
Attempting to balance reason and passion
03:05 PM on 01/18/2011
Larry Summers is a pretty smart guy, but I believe, irrespective of whether he is simply trying to defend the record of his participation in Obama's first economic team, I believe that he is overly optimistic about the merits of whatever gains the economy experiences because of it.

I say this because I believe that our country has experienced a sea-change in the relationship between the interests of owners of capital and the working public in our country over the last few decades due to the globalization of markets. And that wonkish supporters of the financial industry, like Summers, fail to see the domestic economic limitations of doing so. And I say that from the perspective of a "finance guy" himself who sympathized with his point of view for over 20 years.

If instead, when one looks at the broader picture of our recent economic history, it is clear that the financial industry in our economy has benefitted dramatically more than other industries in our economy. Furthermore, I believe that a particular aspect of our national government's fiscal policy-- corporate income taxation--has contributed substantially to a competitive imbalance between our country's industries. And until that imbalance is addressed, meaningful efforts by our national government to stimulate lasting domestic job growth will falter.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
03:45 PM on 01/18/2011
Riots and insurrections are predictable, ala the French Revolution and the Russian Revolution, when the people find their situations economically hopeless.

Mass unemployment will foster mass civil unrest, crime, anger, riots, revolution, starvation, etc.

Conditions for riots and insurrections are approaching because the people are beginning to find their situations economically hopeless.
02:34 PM on 01/18/2011
Oh, not again. America has been hearing this for quite awhile from these fools. Actually, they are not fools. They are making a very nice profit on this economic crisis. They are your masters.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
02:23 PM on 01/18/2011
WHY WOULD ANY US BUSINESS MAKE THEIR PRODUCT IN THE USA if they can make that same product in a foreign country using labor that might only cost a tiny percentage of the labor, energy, taxes and environmental cost of using US citizens, and the foreigners are usually better workers, do not complain, do not take sick days off, and are generally thankful for their employment.

The loss of US jobs is directly (and only) attributable to the Democrat and the Republican members of the US congress and the US Senate during the past 40 years that created the "Free Trade" laws and other anti-business laws that economically ALLOWED, CAUSED, and ECONOMICALLY REQUIRED that US businesses to move their US factories and the associated jobs for US citizens overseas and lay off all of the US employees in order to take advantage of lower labor costs, lower benefit costs, lower payroll tax for health, retirement & unemployment benefits, lower business taxes and lower environmental manufacturing costs readily available in foreign countries?

Foreign governments also have pro-business attitudes rather than the anti-business attitudes of the US government.

This "Free Trade Legislation" was not in the interest of the citizens of the USA, so why did congress create these laws?

This "Free Trade Legislation" was not in the interest of the citizens of the USA, so why did our elected congressmen create this "Free Trade Legislation"? Were they ignorant, stupid, dishonest, or some combination of these factors.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
04:53 PM on 01/18/2011
Do you believe that maybe the foreign manufacturers might have paid US lobbyists to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on wine, food, women, song, vacations, cash, sexual services, corporate jobs for the (unemployable) children/wives/girlfriends of enough of the US senators and US congressmen (and their congressional aids who actually control the members of congress) plus campaign contributions to entice (bribe) enough of our Republican and Democratic US Congressmen and Senators for the past 30 years to create all of these various "FREE TRADE LEGISLATION" and treaties that ALLOWED, CAUSED, and ECONOMICALLY REQUIRED our businesses to take advantage of the lower labor costs, lower business taxes, lower payroll taxes to pay for health care costs, lower unemployment insurance costs, lower environmental manufacturing costs and other anti-business costs that are not required in various foreign countries with less anti-business laws than those that are applicable to businesses in the USA?
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
02:20 PM on 01/18/2011
Many countries are losing confidence in the dollar as the benchmark for world trade and currency values. Other currencies, like the Chinese Yuan with a more stable value because they are redeemable for gold, are now being talked about as a replacement for the US Dollar as the benchmark for international currency values. The Chinese Yuan might be the last man (currency) standing after the big deficit spending US government policies and the non-producing US citizens destroy the value of the US Dollar.

The Chinese and other Individuals in the industrial nations will soon own everything in the USA, stop buying freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds, Start dealing in the Yuan between themselves, and soon the Yuan will be the only currency with stable value to buy any of the necessities to sustain the existence of you and your family.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
05:10 PM on 01/18/2011
Industrialized countries view the United States of America as borrowing and spending huge amounts of US dollars (actually FED printed US Treasury Bonds, US Securities, etc. sold to foreigners to get the US dollars back from the people who made the things that we consumed) with the careless abandon of a drunken sailor on shore leave, who only is concerned about today and will not plan anything or even think about tomorrow.

This US government attitude is very disturbing to those very same foreigners in industrialized nations that the US government hopes will buy more and more of our freshly printed US Treasury Bonds and securities (hopefully at not too much of a discount and/or not very high interest rates) to pay for our economic stimulation, our trade deficit, our wars, our social programs, our environmental activities, our free medical care, our bureaucrat payrolls, and other (necessary and) unnecessary various government expenses with the US dollars that the foreigners earned by making things for US consumers and then "loaned" back to the US government when the foreigners buy freshly printed US Treasury Bonds.

Mr. Bruce L. Hardgraves describes himself as a "Former Drunken Sailor" and posted his opinion in the Northern Wyoming Daily News, April 2, 2010 where he states that, "I object and take exception to every one saying that Obama and Congress are spending money like a drunken sailor. As a former drunken sailor, I quit (spending) when I ran out of money."
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
12:04 PM on 01/18/2011
MR SUMMERS SAYS "The yield on the 10-year Treasury note closed at 3.3 percent Friday."

The US government does not really borrow US dollars from US banks to pay for its expenses when US government expenses exceed US taxes.

The US congress periodically passes laws that authorize Federal Reserve Board chairman Ben Bernanke to buy some paper and then print a bunch of new interest bearing paper currency instruments (mostly US Treasury Bonds) in varying amounts with the promise of US government repaying these loans in US dollars at the future dates specified (when they become due).

The FED then auctions off these freshly printed US T-Bills, US Treasury Bonds, and/or other Securities at US Federal Reserve Bank public auctions (at discounts less than face value and/or present worth, that mathematically converts to "Higher Than the Interest Rates Stated on the Bond Face") to mostly foreign manufacturers, foreign banks and foreign individuals in China, India, Brazil, Pakistan, and other industrialized countries in return for the US dollars that these foreigners earned by making consumer goods for US citizens.

The US government deposits these US dollars from these bond sales, plus US dollars collected by taxation, into banks that redeem the government checks written to pay for various US government activities with US dollars.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
12:18 PM on 01/18/2011
A large dollar value of US Treasury Bonds were printed and then sold in the past few years to get back US dollars to sustain increased US government deficit spending are maturing soon and these bond owners expect redemption for these US Treasury Bonds with US dollars (or other US or equivalent foreign currency of gold).

These freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds, T-Bills, Dollars and other security instruments that the US government sells to people in industrialized nations have no value, except that they are redeemable for title to privately owned businesses, factories, casinos, hotels, farms, land, ports, breweries, refineries, forests, ports, breweries, refineries, and other privately owned assets located in the USA that were created by previous US generations instead of Gold from Ft. Knox.

Foreigners continue purchase these freshly printed paper US Treasury Bonds (at greater and greater discounts from face value or current value) only because these US Treasury Bonds can be exchanged for title to privately owned land, hotels, farms, businesses, casinos and other wealth and assets located in the USA that were created by previous generations of US citizens, before the de-industrialization of the USA, instead of Gold.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
01:48 PM on 01/18/2011
As long as foreigners are able to easily and quickly redeem these freshly printed US T-Bills, US Treasury Bonds, and other US governments instruments for title to existing privately owned assets that were created by previous US generations, instead of redeeming US dollars for gold, these foreigners in industrial countries will continue to buy our freshly printed US T-Bills, Bonds, or other Securities, and US citizens will not have to work to pay for our imported consumer goods and our US government activities.

Exchanging freshly printed US T-Bills, Bonds, and other instruments for title to privately owned US assets instead of gold has created value for buyers of freshly printed US Treasury Bonds that allows the US government to raise US dollars from industrial nations to pay for all of this US federal government spending that is in excess of US Federal tax collections.

This can last only until we have no more US assets (that were created by previous US generations) available to sell in return for foreign earned US dollars.

Many of these US paper bonds were purchased by foreign industrialists at some past FED auction (at a price that was less than the present worth of these US Treasury Bonds) with the US dollars that were paid to the foreigners by US import/distribution/retail companies for US consumer goods for retail sale and US manufacturers who imported foreign made parts and assemblies for final products that were then labeled "Made in the USA,".
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
11:50 AM on 01/18/2011
ECONOMIC STIMULOUS WITH BORROWED MONEY?

Mr Summer's US government economic stimulation plan is apparently to print up a bunch of new paper US Treasury Bonds and then sell them at public auction as needed to get some of the US dollars back from the foreign industrialized countries that we paid a lots of US dollars to make the things that we consumed and then use these borrowed US dollars for payment to US contractors to re-build and expand the US infrastructure (Pork Barrel Projects) in order to reduce unemployment.

These US dollars will probably be spent on imported foreign manufactured earth-moving machinery, imported materials (Steel, Cement, Equipment, Pipe & Wire), illegal alien labor, outsourced engineering, outsourced CAD drafting, etc., and the US workers will still be mostly unemployed.

Any Economic Stimulus Spending should also prohibit any imported products (even if we no longer manufacture those products) from being purchased with any of these funds, and also prohibit all outsourcing of the Labor Required.

What happens after the project ends, and these temporary "Pork Barrel" jobs disappear? This is a short term solution that will mostly economically benefit foreign manufacturers of industrial and consumer goods, salesmen of the foreign manufactured equipment, materials, etc., and the people working in the distribution of the imported things for our infrastructure improvements, but the balance of trade will still require sending borrowed US dollars back overseas to pay for these things that we import, and the NATIONAL DEBT WILL BE INCREASED.
08:50 AM on 01/18/2011
Not until the very end of last year did business know what tax rate they would be paying this year. They still don't know what regulations they're going to have dumped on them, nor do they know what class-baiting comments are likely to come from the egghead "never held a job in the private sector" of the current regime. Is there any reason why people are surprised that our economy isn't growing or adding jobs?

Basic economics tells us that business exists to make money for its owners. As such, a job is an investment and one that businesses won't make if they're not confident that there will be demand for whatever good or service they're selling. Employment isn't a social responsibility of businesses, its an investment that will be made only when there's confidence in the future. Like the mid-term elections, our current lack of job growth is a vote of no confidence in Obama and one that he richly deserves.
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
09:55 AM on 01/18/2011
Good Points!
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gerald4
licensed mechanical and electrical engineer
02:02 PM on 01/18/2011
How much is the US government is going to raise the current amounts that the government charges businesses for unemployment insurance rates next year? The government has twice extended the number of weeks to pay the unemployed, and the government might extend the number of weeks of benefits again, and the cost increases to businesses for unemployment "insurance premium" increases are absolutely certain, but the amount of the increase is unknown.

The national healthcare cost estimates are probably similar to the initial Medicare cost estimates, and then the healthcare costs will probably be many many times more expensive that the government initial annual cost estimates, and these costs will be passed onto the businesses. The amount of the payroll tax increases to pay for national healthcare are unknown.

Existing environmental laws, and the anticipated costs of future environmental legislation that will be "piled onto" our remaining US located industries (that stay in the USA) will be another factor causing the remainder of our US industries and US jobs to relocate to overseas locations. Foreign environmental manufacturing costs are generally known.
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Acharn
02:48 AM on 01/18/2011
Oh, yeah, a real MOTU! After the move to destroy Social Security (also known as the Great Tax Compromise of December) they are still projecting the unemployment rate will be at 8.5% in time for the election, rather than 8.7%. Whoop-de-doo! According to reports, Summers was the main reason President Obama decided to go with the smaller stimulus and water it down with tax reductions. NOW he wants a change. Maybe Summers and Rahm were right that they couldn't have gotten anything better, but they should have gone with the larger recommendation from Christine Romer -- except that, according to reports, Summers prevented Obama from hearing about it. And he's going to go on collecting $5 million a year for working one day a week because he's so smart.
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mxytsplyk
De gustibus non est disputandum
02:30 AM on 01/18/2011
I wouldnʻt believe Larry Summers if he said the sky is blue.
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Ranta
I don't need no ****** badges.
12:14 AM on 01/18/2011
What? Is China going to start a fast food chain here?