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Arizona GOP Pushing For Guns On College Campuses

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PAUL DAVENPORT   01/17/11 11:04 AM ET   AP

PHOENIX — Arizona has become a national leader in the gun rights movement in recent years as the state enacted law after law to protect the people's right to bear arms nearly anywhere, at anytime.

The shooting rampage that wounded Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, a former legislative colleague, has done nothing to slow down the Legislature.

Gun rights bills were introduced in the days after the shootings last week, and more proposals are to come.

"I don't think it really changes anything," Republican state Sen. Ron Gould said of the mass shooting. "I don't see how gun control could have prevented that shooting unless you take guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens."

The shooting in Tucson brought new attention to the national gun control debate after authorities said the rampage was carried out by a man who couldn't get into the military because of his drug use and had repeated run-ins with police at his community college because of his bizarre mental behavior. Jared Loughner bought the 9 mm handgun legally at a Tucson gun store, and was also carrying extended magazines that hold 30 rounds of ammunition.

Arizona Republicans remain adamant that the shooting will not dissuade them from pushing their pro-gun agenda.

They want new laws allowing college and university faculty members to be able to carry concealed weapons on campus, an issue that gained attention after the 2007 shooting at Virginia Tech University. Only Utah has a law allowing concealed weapons on college campuses while 24 states have bans, according to the National Conference of State Legislatures.

"There are going to be some nervous Nellies, so to speak, but I think that it will be overcome," said John Wentling, a leader of the Arizona Citizens Defense League, a gun owners advocacy group active at the Capitol. "We still have an obligation to protect constitutional and civil rights."

Bills already introduced this year in Arizona in the Republican-controlled Legislature include barring landlords and homeowner groups from restricting the right to bear arms in self defense, and expanding the current law that allows gun owners to display a weapon in self defense. And Wentling said his group's priority bill, which he wouldn't discuss, hasn't been unveiled yet.

Arizona's permissive gun laws and the state's heritage dating to the Wild West days sometimes jolts newcomers, particularly in Phoenix and other metro areas where most residents live. Heads turned in 2009 when a man openly carried a semiautomatic rifle to a Phoenix protest outside a speech by President Barack Obama.

At the Legislature, some female lawmakers with concealed weapons permits have acknowledged carrying guns in their purses despite a state law prohibiting guns in public buildings. Visitors to legislative buildings are supposed to place their weapons in lockboxes.

Last year, Arizona become the third state to make it legal for adults to carry a concealed weapon without getting training and a background check. In 2009, the big change was allowing armed people in bars and restaurants, if they're not drinking alcohol and the establishments haven't posted signs against it.

House Speaker Kirk Adams said last year's bill to legalize carrying concealed weapons without a permit wasn't a mistake.

"Arizona remains a place that is respectful and adamant about our Second Amendment rights, and I think the people of Arizona support that," said Adams, one of 61 Republicans making up two-thirds of the 90-member Legislature.

Former Gov. Janet Napolitano signed several bills supporting gun rights between 2003 and 2008, but the Democrat vetoed others. When Napolitano resigned to become U.S. Homeland Security secretary in 2009, Republican Jan Brewer stepped into the governor's office, and more laws protecting gun owners were made.

Brewer signed bills into law that let people keep guns in locked vehicles at parking lots of businesses that prohibit guns and barred local governments from prohibiting a person with a concealed weapon permit from having a gun in a park.

Gun control proponents hope that the Tucson shooting can create momentum in pushing back against the various pro-weapon bills in the Legislature. They want to pass more regulation of gun shows while prohibiting sales of extended magazines like the one authorities say the suspected shooter used.

Still, Sen. Steve Gallardo, a Phoenix Democrat, acknowledges that such proposals have little to no chances of ever passing, but said "we have to start the education. I would hope that many members of the Legislature see it as a wake-up call."

Sen. Jack Harper, a Republican sponsoring the campus-carry measures, said he didn't want to be seen as trying to take advantage of the Tucson tragedy by citing it as reason to support his legislation, but he said it was vital, given the deadly shootings on university campuses and the Arizona Board of Regents' policy banning guns. The board oversees the state's schools.

"University professors are tired of feeling like sitting ducks," Harper said.

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PHOENIX — Arizona has become a national leader in the gun rights movement in recent years as the state enacted law after law to protect the people's right to bear arms nearly anywhere, at anytim...
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01:34 PM on 02/16/2011
And no guns are allowed in NRA meetings....explain that one?
12:59 PM on 02/01/2011
Here in Arizona, it is legal to carry a concealed weapon into a bar, unless the bar owner specifically posts a sign that it is disallowed. Same with restaurants. You know you're in Arizona when the Chuck E. Cheese has a sign on the door that reads, "No Firearms Allowed."
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crosshatchaz
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01:23 AM on 01/30/2011
I am so disgusted just admitting I live here. These people are pathetic
12:20 PM on 01/26/2011
Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

As you can plainly see I`m not an an American but something has always confused me. How is it that something written back in 1791 can be accepted as reason to allow people to carry and own guns. Do you Americans honestly think that if those men who wrote that meant it in the way it is being used today. DO you actually believe that they would support the NRA when so many citizens of a free state are being needlessly killed by guns or would the propose an amendment to stop it. I do.
07:28 PM on 02/07/2011
Since we used privately owned weapons to kick the Brits out--I am positive that the men who wrote the Constitution would be good with us having the RKBA
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Vikingdave
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11:49 PM on 01/23/2011
Whether you are the most rabid gun rights advocate, or you think BB guns and bean shooters are too mush to tolerate in a civilized society.One thing is a fact. Bullets have no mind of their own, and once released, YOU CAN NEVER TAKE THEM BACK. So. If I had a kid in a college in AZ. I'd think I would see about getting them the hell outta there.Getting that midnight phone call, telling me my son or daughter is never coming home again, EVER, isn't worth ones percieved right to walk from class to class, locked and loaded.
07:30 PM on 02/07/2011
Dave--one thing we do know from Columbine, VT etc--gun free zones do nothing to deter nutjobs that want to go out in a blaze of infamy
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Andra Claudia Garcia
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05:16 PM on 01/19/2011
this is what happens when you bring guns to school

http://www.aolnews.com/2011/01/19/girl-clings-to-life-after-gardena-california-high-school-shoot/?ncid=webmail
05:56 PM on 01/18/2011
Just had an accidental shooting at Los Angeles High School today.
Two Kids Shot one still fighting for her life.
Kid that brought gun to school drop his back pack and the GUN went off.
One Shot 2 Students down one still fighting for her life. And the Boy that brought the gun has also ruined his life. Another reason WHY No Guns Should Be Allowed In Schools.. How Stupid
Of the GOP.. Where are the adults in Government??????
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Dimensio
I just don't know what went wrong!
12:47 PM on 01/20/2011
I was unaware that the student in possession of the firearm had carried the firearm legally.  Have you a reference to a news report of such?
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claudiam
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01:56 PM on 01/21/2011
Read the LA Times claudiatucsonaz
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05:16 PM on 01/18/2011
Breaking news today:

LOS ANGELES —

..A gun in a 10th-grader's backpack accidentally discharged when he dropped the bag, wounding two students at a Los Angeles high school, the campus principal said.

Gardena High School ...

One student critical, the other serious
05:10 PM on 01/18/2011
Boycott Arizona.
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Macnos
04:54 PM on 01/18/2011
The more innocent people are killed by guns, the more determined Americans are to own them.
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zambiedude
04:45 PM on 01/18/2011
Really?!?! Tell that to the two kids shot in Cal
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b1rd67
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04:37 PM on 01/18/2011
Imagine how much worse this tragedy could have been if a bunch of 19 year old kids had thought they could be heroes and pulled out their own guns and started firing wildly in the middle of the crowd. If you're like me the scene in your head will be something like the final scene in True Romance.

More guns? Yeah, GOOD THINKING!
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rcwhite364
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04:16 PM on 01/18/2011
Further proof that the GOP has jumped off the cliff. I mean, what could possibly go wrong in a place with thousands of young, hormonal, alcohol-drinking teenagers and twenty-somethings living away from home for the first time in their lives?
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Belle Starr
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04:15 PM on 01/18/2011
as a former professor, and as long as people are getting the weapons they don't need and not getting the help they do need, I'd be fine with the ROTC students openly carrying firearms to class. They would be the only ones I would trust--I certainly wouldn't trust the macho, macho bad hombre crowd who wail the loudest about their 2nd Amendment rights. I certainly wouldn't trust professors with guns.
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hagagaga
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01:59 AM on 01/21/2011
As a future ROTC student, I'd carry but I'd object to your double standard. As a future professor, I would not sacrifice the liberty of my students to gain a sense of security.
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Belle Starr
cattle rustler and horse thief
11:30 AM on 01/21/2011
When you're a professor, it's your class, you make the rules, you take the responsibility. A college classroom is not a democracy and neither are the armed services. Outside the classroom, you have a point. Inside MY classroom no. If you my student, I'd get you together with my former ROTC students so they could clue you in as to where they would hide my keys, my notes, etc.
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reasonshouldrule
08:14 PM on 01/21/2011
Just wait until you're a professor and see how you feel then. You are VERY vulnerable, and the thought of students with guns in class can be unnerving.
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03:33 PM on 01/18/2011
This article is right on. The only way you can deal with crazy people who have guns is by making it easier for sane people to have guns so they can defend themselves against the crazy people. THIS way, the saner people can KILL the crazy people and this world will be safer. Makes perfect sense.
12:55 PM on 02/01/2011
...because the "sane people" are so thoroughly trained to deal with a crazy person with a gun in a public place?