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Toyota Developing New Cheaper Electric Motor

01/17/11 02:32 AM ET   AP

Toyota Electric Motor

TOKYO — Toyota Motor Corp., maker of the popular Prius hybrid car, is developing a new type of electric motor to cut its dependence on rare earth metals and lower costs, a company spokesman said Monday.

The new technology will help free the world's No. 1 automaker from relying on China, which produces 97 percent of the global output of rare earths needed for many high-tech products, including the current generation of hybrid gasoline-electric motors.

Beijing sent shock waves through Japan's high-tech sector late last year when it blocked exports of the exotic metals after a diplomatic spat, and prices have soared as China gradually tightens its output.

"Toyota is always looking for a reduction in resources and in terms of costs," said spokesman Paul Nolasco.

The company has not released any specific uses or timeline for the new motor, he said.

Toyota has bet big on gasoline-electric hybrid technology, and an executive said last year it will begin selling a completely electric vehicle in 2012 in the U.S., Japan and Europe. The company is also working on an electric sport-utility vehicle with U.S. luxury electric car maker Tesla.

Analysts said production of such vehicles was still small enough that there was little short-term risk from a shortage of rare earths, but this could change quickly.

"This isn't a major issue right now, but as these types of cars become more popular, it becomes a big risk if supply is limited or cut off," said Mizuho Investors Securities auto analyst Ryoichi Saito.

He said it made sense for companies that make high-tech products to be developing alternatives, given trade uncertainties with China. Japan has also actively pursued deals around Asia to develop alternative sources.

In November, China resumed exports to Japan of rare earths after a two-month de facto ban amid a diplomatic row over disputed islands.

China has been gradually reducing the amount of rare earths it sends overseas. Earlier this month a state newspaper said the country would toughen environmental standards, which could raise prices globally. China's 2010 export quota of 24,280 tons was a 30 percent reduction from the previous year.

The U.S., Canada and Australia have rare earths but stopped mining them in the 1990s as lower-cost Chinese supplies became available. China has about 30 percent of global rare earths deposits.

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TOKYO — Toyota Motor Corp., maker of the popular Prius hybrid car, is developing a new type of electric motor to cut its dependence on rare earth metals and lower costs, a company spokesman said Mon...
TOKYO — Toyota Motor Corp., maker of the popular Prius hybrid car, is developing a new type of electric motor to cut its dependence on rare earth metals and lower costs, a company spokesman said Mon...
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06:12 PM on 01/30/2011
If those that believe in PEAK OIL theory are correct increasing demand for oil
from China and India for their billion plus populations will soon exceed the worlds supply
raising the price for all.

Bring on those electric, flex-fuel and hybrid vehicles. Gas prices are going up.
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tek phlarpt
01:38 PM on 01/20/2011
The company is also working on an electric sport-utility vehicle with U.S. luxury electric car maker Tesla.

Start making the S-series in your Toyota factories you dummies! Let Tesla do all the research and you can do the production. Get your cut from each sale.
12:12 PM on 01/20/2011
There are many problems bringing EVs to market.

There is already strictly limited supply of Rare Earths. If the market attempts to go down that route, there will be a gross insufficiency & huge price rises, putting such elements beyond the Joe Public market.

In the UK, even without EVs, there are existing predictions of grid brown outs within 10 years. Over the past 15 years, there has been lack of governmental planning to replace worn out / now wearing out power generation equipment. There is no spare capacity mapped in the timeline for additional loading of the generating capacity. The system cannot service additional demands. It is doubtful it can be made fit for existing & new automotive purpose before 2020 / 2022.
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dporterdvd
Progressive DemoCats Are Lion Hearted
06:35 PM on 01/19/2011
Instead of being number one at the military arms race, we should try to be number one at the green technology race. Economic and environmental security should be just as important as military security. The U.S.S.R. collapsed from economic problems, not from foreign invasion.
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06:03 PM on 01/19/2011
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t...Everytime, when is the last time USA or America, advance, technology, was in the same sentence...Oh yea karmas a biatche
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10:13 AM on 01/19/2011
Hope all the hype is true, but more arresting is Toyota's apparently overnight response to changes in its markets, supply AND demand.
If even half this story is accurate, it seems the Toyota execs identified a big problem, came up with a solution and made the decision to move ahead at flank speed.
Even for a nanosecond, can you imagine GM executives doing something like this? I hope their Volt is a success, but that arrived only after GM went bust from decades of brain-dead management and only after taxpayers virtually had to buy that automaker, forcing it to move forward for the first time in living memory.
By contrast, Toyota has consistently produced outstanding cars for as long as I can remember (My 1978 Corolla got 33 city, 36 hwy and gave me 150,000 miles.)
If Toyota's PR folks can be believed, and that's not certain, something about Japanese management works. Something that American business schools still have not figured out and still consider heresy to be burned out at the roots. I think it's called being smart and not being pathologically greedy. But I've been wrong before, as my wife will gleefully and with thorough documentation attest.
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rikster
buy the ticket-take the ride
07:20 PM on 01/18/2011
does it come with sudden acceleration problems..?
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KEATSnSKYESMOM
My life is way too complicated to put in this tiny
12:05 AM on 01/20/2011
Didn't have any problems with my 2009 prius. I love love love that car! I tell her everyday how much I love her!
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
04:11 PM on 01/18/2011
What is the richest rare earth ore we have? Our wastes, particularly ewaste. That's why China and other countries are now "mining" their wastes instead of dumping and polluting with them.
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08:02 PM on 01/18/2011
If you have a few minutes, I'd be interested in your thoughts on this award winning report;

China - Dirty Secrets

"In a small, grubby open shed a young woman picks a plastic piece from the pile in front of her, lights it, sniffs it to discern what sort of plastic it is and then consigns it to the appropriate recycling bin. Instantly the process is repeated and again, perhaps thousands of times during her shift. We can only guess at the cumulative damage she’s doing to herself."

http://www.abc.net.au/foreign/content/2010/s3048959.htm
Genders
Love, Tolerance, Enlightenment
08:36 PM on 01/18/2011
China is going through our industrial revolution but 100 years later, and they are adapting and changing course much faster than we did. Compare that to Mexico where it been going on as long and is not getting better....
12:15 PM on 01/18/2011
As far as energy storage density goes, no viable (I exclude radioactive etc) technology, today or tomorrow, comes anywhere near petrol (gas) / diesel. It could well be decades before new tech can equal current fuel energy densities.

Zero Emission EVs. All that is happening is the point of polution creation is being shifted not eliminated. Biofuel technologies involve taking onboard the concept of greener driving whilst partially starving the 3rd world.

The carbon involved in scrapping / replacing an otherwise perfectly viable gas guzzler with a less poluting vehicle is more poluting, not less poluting. Compelling manufacturers to make new cars more efficient does make sense.

Cynics might think alot of the hype is driven by the oportunity to raise taxation...
01:54 PM on 01/18/2011
Yes, but ZEVs bring in the possibility of powering your car with electricity generated by green technologies like wind energy and wave farms. It is just a step, but a necessary one.
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Daniel R Cobb
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02:03 PM on 01/18/2011
Hear, hear! Right-on JavaSavant. Even gas-fired powerplants creating electricity that it then placed on the grid and used to charge electrical vehicles, this is more efficient than maintaining a large national fleet of gasoline vehicles, esp when you include the energy used to produce and maintain said vehicles.
07:14 AM on 01/20/2011
You cannot allocate the output from green technology to automotive usage unless the green output capacity exceeds the non automotive demand.... Otherwise it is just motorist feelgood 'greeniousity'.

There is doubt a wind turbine can ever recover its lifetime carbon cost. They are high maintenance items, gearbox replacement being an ongoing problem.

24/7 geothermal electricity is the way to go. That will replace baseload generation. The problem with wind / wave / solar, is that standby baseload generation capability is essential to generate when W/W/S aren't generating!
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07:34 PM on 01/18/2011
"All that is happening is the point of polution creation is being shifted not eliminated­."

Not true. The carbon intensity of an EV is somewhat around 50% of gasoline.

"The carbon involved in scrapping / replacing an otherwise perfectly viable gas guzzler with a less poluting vehicle is more poluting, not less poluting."

Also not true. The energy to construct a vehicle is only about 10% of the energy used driving it on a lifecycle basis. It doesn't take much of an fuel efficiency improvement to recovery the energy cost of manufacture and then be saving more fuel over the lifetime.
11:24 AM on 01/18/2011
Great, now make it go farther on a charge.
Layman23
Do we want to live in the past?
11:05 AM on 01/18/2011
Good for you Toyota.
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nfatt1
Liberty, Equality, Fraternity
10:00 AM on 01/18/2011
Detroit is busy fighting regulation , while Toyota is busy with innovation. Can they see why now ?
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12:00 PM on 01/18/2011
Toyota builds cars in the US under the same regulations as "Detroit".
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12:04 PM on 01/18/2011
What regulation are they fighting? higher MPG ratings, toyota already beat them at that, they saw it coming with rising gas prices and growing shortage of oil. Detroit is shortsighted businessmen, placing blaming every but on themselves for poor management.
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08:52 PM on 01/18/2011
Innovation? Toyota does not have a Plug-In Hybrid yet, (GM has that), and Toyota announced theirs gets a whopping 13 miles on a charge vs Chevy Volt's 40 miles. I never thought I'd see the day when Toyota became GM: Shoddy quality and a lack of innovation, and GM has become Toyota of the past.
BlackbirdHighway
Brawndo's got electrolites!
08:36 AM on 01/18/2011
This probably comes from their partnership with Tesla which already uses an induction motor. They have several patents on the technology.
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WhatTheHolyHeck
smiting trolls since 1984
11:47 AM on 01/18/2011
I wish their joint project would come out already, so we could get to a 2nd or 3rd generation sooner. I wouldn't argue against a cheaper, more reliable electric or hybrid.
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KEATSnSKYESMOM
My life is way too complicated to put in this tiny
12:10 AM on 01/20/2011
I want an electric minivan - I love my prius but my kids are getting bigger and we are going to need more room.
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ken607
Nothing natural about gas,nothing clean about coal
08:17 AM on 01/18/2011
if I remember this technology was stolen from the united states! i thought this was intelectual theft? oh ya this is america capital of retirement,pension thefts .why should this be any different.
BlackbirdHighway
Brawndo's got electrolites!
09:40 AM on 01/18/2011
Huh? Stolen? It was U.S. Patent 381,968 awarded to Nikola Tesla in 1888.
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12:08 PM on 01/18/2011
Unlikely, most likely sold to japan if it was developed here. but they are working with a US company that will benefit if and when thses cars are sold internationally. Very little technology gets stolen.
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john649
03:41 AM on 01/18/2011
YEA, sounds like we have a breakthrough in the silent agreement to gouge the middle class for every last penny till the oil wells run dry.....the japanese may save us yet!