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Royal Wedding Sparks Succession Debate

GREGORY KATZ   01/18/11 11:00 AM ET   AP

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LONDON — Lawmakers say it would be the perfect wedding gift – changing Britain's rules of succession so any daughter born to Prince William and wife-to-be Kate Middleton would enjoy an equal right to the throne.

Lawmaker Keith Vaz led a brief House of Commons debate Tuesday calling for an overhaul of the 300-year-old procedures, which many call antiquated and sexist.

"Sex discrimination has been illegal in the UK since 1975 and those who break the law are rightly punished," he told Parliament. "This rule attempts to bring gender equality into our succession rules." He said a series of newspaper polls shows strong support for this change to the rules.

The system currently gives sons an automatic preference over older female siblings to succeed to the British throne. That means if Middleton had a daughter and then a son, the daughter would be passed over and the son would become king when William dies or vacates the throne.

Vaz said Tuesday that William's April 29 wedding offers a once-in-a-generation chance to make the change, which has previously been discussed but never approved.

"Prince William looks like a very modern prince," Vaz said in a statement. "If he has a daughter first, it is only right that she become queen of England."

Any legal change would not effect Prince Charles – heir to the throne – or William, since neither of them have older sisters who would leapfrog them if new rules are adopted. And the issue would be moot for another generation if Middleton's first child is a boy.

But rules specifying who inherits the throne, now based on the 1701 Act of Settlement, are not easy to change, particularly because it involves all 16 Commonwealth countries where Queen Elizabeth II is head of state.

Prime Minister David Cameron's office said that discussions have been taking place among the nations involved, but that it could be a lengthy process for any change to be approved.

"Amending the Act of Succession is a complex and difficult matter that requires careful and thoughtful consideration," a Cameron spokesman said on condition of anonymity in line with policy.

If an agreement wasn't struck, it could be possible that Commonwealth countries such as Australia or Canada might recognize a different king or queen than in Britain, said legal Prof. Noel Cox of Aberystwyth University in Wales. "That would be quite difficult," he said. "You're getting into fantasy here."

Though Vaz's effort to force the government into action is unlikely to result in any immediate legislation, he said it would provoke debate at a time of high interest in the royal family.

Rank and file lawmakers commonly use brief debates to generate publicity for their cherished causes, hoping to generate support among colleagues and the public.

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LONDON — Lawmakers say it would be the perfect wedding gift – changing Britain's rules of succession so any daughter born to Prince William and wife-to-be Kate Middleton would enjoy an equal right...
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AxelDC
06:01 PM on 02/05/2011
England's greatest monarchs have been its ruling queens: Elizabeth I, Victoria and Elizabeth II.  Britain would be better served with a non-sexist succession instead of relying on Henry VIII's Act of Succession to guide it 600 years later.
02:39 PM on 02/05/2011
The Princess Royal is older than Prince Charles. It has been a bone of contention in the family all their lives.
09:21 PM on 01/20/2011
why not just get rid of titles and royalty altogether
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rbeck
Just a mountain girl
03:53 PM on 02/14/2011
boy, your no fun at all.....
JStading
Trust me, I'm an attorney...
05:46 PM on 01/20/2011
Why not just have a popular election to make some random person king for a year.  I am amazed that they support people who are quite literally welfare queens with such exuberance.
04:01 PM on 02/05/2011
Phillip fought in WW2, the Queen was a mechanic, William is a search and rescue pilot

Oh, and it all brings in money via taxation of their assets.

Hooray for facts!
03:06 PM on 02/07/2011
Plus, tourist spending in UK
04:46 AM on 01/20/2011
I would even go a step further and ask why is it that it is the first child that should inherit the throne? May be there is a second or third child that happens to be better suited to be a king or a queen, so what's te point in having the eldest be the one to inherit? Primogeniture makes no sense. I say, let the people decide which child is best suited.
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02:35 AM on 01/20/2011
OMGoodness, what a weird situation. They still have laws that discriminate against women and religious freedom? Aye, yai yai, yai yai.
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03:29 PM on 01/20/2011
It's a bit difficult being head of the Church of England when you're not an Anglican ...
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Ocheco
03:56 PM on 01/19/2011
It will be interesting if this is not settled prior to the birth of a female child. Let her sue. Lawyers need work too.
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Max Shaw
My micro-bio is no longer empty.
02:58 PM on 01/19/2011
The Queen will probably live forever at the rate she's going, but I concur with this idea. It makes perfect sense. Now is as good of time as any to change the Act of Sucession.
01:34 PM on 01/19/2011
If they deal with the sex discrimination, can they also deal with the anti-Catholic discrimination!?? If an heir marries a Catholic currently, they have to renounce their right to the throne!
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Eric Sarnoski
01:18 PM on 01/19/2011
She will only be a queen consort since she herself does not come from royal lineage. However the offspring from this marriage will have a royal pedigree and could asent the throne only .......and only..... if Prince Harry himself marries someone who doesn't have a royal pedigree. If Harry does marry someone with a royal lineage then Williams child would be ineligble. Only a queen regent can reign as supreme.
03:25 PM on 01/19/2011
This is nonsense! Any child of Prince William, regardless of its sex, will always have precedence over any child of Harry's, no matter whom Harry marries or whatever the sex of his children. Marrying princess has absolutely nothing to do with the succession and who does or doesn't ascend the throne.
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Eric Sarnoski
10:54 PM on 01/20/2011
Incorrect , William can become King , but his wife will always be a consort Queen. If Harry marries a women a woman with royal lineage she will become Queen regent , who has power and authority over a queen consort. ie Queen Mary was subservent to Queen Elizabeth who had the authority to behead her.
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AxelDC
06:09 PM on 02/05/2011
A consort is anyone married to the ruling monarch.  She would be Queen Consort whether or not she was born royalty or aristocracy.  The only way for her to be Queen Regnant is to be born heir to the throne, like William's gran.
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BlueKansas
Stop calling us 'ordinary Americans'!
12:45 PM on 01/19/2011
Gotta love the Brits, who seem to greet this suggestion with welcome surprise. I'm married to a Brit. The idea had never occured to him before he heard it on the news this morning. I think if they were more like us Americans, this case would have hit the Supreme Court a long time ago!
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Ocheco
03:55 PM on 01/19/2011
Um according to Justice Alito sex discrimination is not illegal here...no ERA. We are relying on law passed prior to female emancipation. Women in the UK received the right to vote a long time before we did too.
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06:16 PM on 01/19/2011
In the UK, women didn't get the same voting rights as men until 1928.

I believe it was 1920 in the US.
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So, just where is this micro-bio? This it?
12:31 PM on 01/19/2011
That's just silly, the next time the Norman's invade England, a queen wouldn't be able to lead the troops in the field of battle in all that heavy armament. That takes a man.
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Jeremy Perron
12:34 PM on 01/19/2011
She is the Normans!
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06:17 PM on 01/19/2011
Indeed she is -- a direct descendant of William I (the Conqueror).
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Just walkin the dog here
So, just where is this micro-bio? This it?
10:17 AM on 01/20/2011
That will lead for even further confusion in the battle. (LOL & Thanks for the history remined).
Konnie
PO'd PROGRESSIVE
10:07 AM on 01/19/2011
well it's not like there is a need to rush..................the queen will likely live to be at least 100 like her mother, with modern medicene charles will make it to that milestone also.........and will's
will most likely live even longer than that............so my best guess would be the current parliment need not waste their time considering this issue. besides who is going to mess with the tourism goldmine they've got going on, makes disneyland look sooooo fake......
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deluk
hot mess...
04:28 PM on 01/19/2011
Mickey's fake?
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AxelDC
06:12 PM on 02/05/2011
The rush is to make the change before it affects any living person.  If William has a girl first, then it would make her the heir even if he has subsequent sons.  As of now, the only thing it would do is move Anne ahead of her younger brothers, but still unlikely to ever take the throne.
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dbishop76
Left of liberal Texan.
09:12 AM on 01/19/2011
Prince William looks like a very "modern" prince? Is it possible to be a modern "prince".
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Indigo1941
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07:26 AM on 01/19/2011
I can live with "Prince William looks like a sensible young man" but to expand that to "Prince William looks like a very modern prince" really stretches my credulity. He's a royal. That means one thing, he's a spoiled rich kid. He'll go with whatever keeps his money in his pocket.
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BevTX84
10:47 PM on 01/19/2011
One thing you can say about him and his brother than you can't say about the children of the wealthy in the US, is that both young men serve their nation in the military. They stand beside children of poverty when they do so. American of a certain economic class can't be bother to do so.
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Indigo1941
Time Traveler
08:52 AM on 01/20/2011
The royals are paid to parade in the military and act like they care about their subjects. Notice who the little people are? subjects! You're comparing oranges to apples, spoiled apples at that.
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AxelDC
06:14 PM on 02/05/2011
The heirs to the Bush dynasty avoid military service even as the start wars themselves.  Bush evaded the draft and his daughters were not going to rush into Iraq along with the children of the commoners.  Only Papi Bush served honorably in the US military.