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Amanda Knox DNA Evidence To be Retested

Amanda Knox

ALESSANDRA RIZZO   01/22/11 01:00 PM ET   AP

PERUGIA, Italy — Independent forensic experts will have 90 days starting next month to review crucial evidence linking American student Amanda Knox to the murder of her British roommate, an appeals court said Saturday.

Knox was convicted in 2009 of sexually assaulting and murdering Meredith Kercher, and sentenced to 26 years in prison. Her co-defendant and ex-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito was also convicted and sentenced to 25 years. Both have denied wrongdoing.

Their lawyers have disputed DNA traces used to back up the convictions and obtained an independent review at the start of the appeals trial.

The experts appointed by the appeals court, Stefano Conti and Carla Vecchiotti from Rome's Sapienza University, were formally sworn in at a hearing Saturday, the first of the new year. They will begin their review on Feb. 9 at a university lab, conclude by May 9 and report their findings to the court on May 21.

Kercher was stabbed to death the night of Nov. 1, 2007. Her body was found in a pool of blood the following day in the apartment the 21-year-old shared with Knox. They were both exchange students in Perugia, a university town in central Italy.

Prosecutors maintained in the first trial that Knox's DNA was found on the handle of a kitchen knife they believe to be the murder weapon, and that Kercher's DNA was found on the blade. They say Sollecito's DNA was found on the clasp of Kercher's bra.

The defense says those DNA traces were inconclusive and that they might have been contaminated when they were collected and analyzed.

The two independent experts can either make new analyses on the DNA traces that were found, or, if that isn't possible, review the analyses that had been carried out by previous forensic experts and assess whether they are reliable, according to the mandate of the court.

But they might look to go a bit further. Conti, one of the independent experts, asked if he could open up the handle of the knife, to determine if blood or other traces might have seeped through. This led prosecutors and a lawyer representing the Kercher family to argue that such an analysis would go beyond the boundaries of the experts' mandate.

But Presiding Judge Claudio Pratillo Hellmann did not rule it out.

"The initial mandate is ample," he told the experts. "If you see it necessary to open up the handle, make a specific request to the court, which will then decide."

Experts appointed by both the prosecution and the defense will be present during the review.

While the evidence review is being carried out, the trial will continue with witnesses sought by the defense aimed at challenging the reliability of a key prosecution witness who said he had seen Knox and Sollecito by the house the night of the murder.

Knox and Sollecito, who both attended Saturday's hearing, insist they were at Sollecito's house. Their defense teams have argued that the witness' recollection of the scene – including remembering buses taking students to clubs and discos the night of Nov. 1, a holiday in Italy – is not credible, and have called people who operate buses and discos in the area to testify.

Prosecutors have called that crucial witness, Antonio Curatolo, to testify again, and two others on the same issue. Curatolo, a homeless man, has in the meantime been ordered to stand trial on an unrelated drug charge – an accusation that, according to the Knox defense, further damages his credibility.

The next hearing is on March 12. Knox's stepfather, Chris Mellas, who arrived in Perugia just days ago, said Knox was "doing well and is happy it's going her way" – but is also "apprehensive."

"In the first trial a lot of things were good but she is still in prison," Mellas said. "Nothing is good – it's just better than bad."

Knox, 23, and Sollecito, 26, have been behind bars since November 2007.

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Brad T Casali
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04:31 PM on 02/22/2011
Firstly, I'm late in commenting on this, so apologies in advance.

My question is this: Wasn't the knife in question ruled to be inconsistent with the marks on Meredith's body? I believe that the defense argued this. Regardless of if the DNA on it was contaminated, if this knife was inconsistent with wounds, how does this even help Knox? I don't see it providing any exculpatory, or even incriminating, evidence for Knox.
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jackbutler5555
06:32 PM on 01/25/2011
Those who assert that Amanda made a written confession may be dismayed at what she did actually write:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1570225/Transcript-of-Amanda-Knoxs-note.html
FaceReality2
Democracy in the U.S. is an illusion
09:46 AM on 01/26/2011
Excerpts:

"I have been told there is hard evidence saying that I was at the place of the murder of my friend

"In regards to this "confession" that I made last night, I want to make clear that I'm very doubtful of the verity of my statements because they were made under the pressures of stress, shock and extreme exhaustion. Not only was I told I would be arrested and put in jail for 30 years, but I was also hit in the head when I didn't remember a fact correctly.

"However, it was under this pressure and after many hours of confusion that my mind came up with these answers."

False confessions and implicating innocent people are the result of lengthy and/or harsh interrogations.
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babybecks
"because I am involved in Mankind;"
12:40 AM on 01/27/2011
Rudy Guede had no business in her apartment. but he was there. Why? We don't know? But before, he was arrested for breaking and entering, and when caught, he had a k n i f e. This is all public record
09:12 PM on 01/24/2011
ITALIAN JUSTICE SYSTEM

We agree that Italy and Italians are wonderful!

As with any justice system, anywhere in the world, the players involved, (police, prosecutors, judges, etc) can abuse their power.

The Italian people deserve much better (remember Raffaele is Italian)

Italy needs to enact measure(s), to protect it's citizen and others, as to prevent future misuse of power by those in position of authorities

In the USA, it's call "rules of disclosure" in England it's called "Crown Prosecution Service"

Do you know of any safeguards in Italy, to deal with Prosecutors who abuse their powers?
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poeticjustice4all
Past = Prologue
10:08 PM on 01/24/2011
Well, for starters -- don't get caught telling outrageous lies about murder and the attempted cover-up of murder.
mothergrace
If they knock you down, bite 'em on the ankle.
10:34 PM on 01/24/2011
Yes, the prosecutor should not be involved in those things and he has been convicted of abuse of power himself which is very telling considering the story he concocted about this case.

http://www.king5.com/news/local/Knox-prosecutor-convicted-in-unrelated-case-82403897.html
11:03 AM on 01/25/2011
Red Herring.
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miamorphos
11:44 PM on 01/24/2011
I think I've mentioned in a few posts that there is a tendency among Knox's followers to disparage the Italian justice system in an attempt to free their martyr. This post would serve as evidence. How do you think that Italians feel, seeing someone pontificate ex cathedra in this manner? Goodness, even the pope can't pontificate ex cathedra with such certainty. The whole system needs to be Americanized? Hmm. Them's fighin' words.
overcat
My micro-bio is so full, it's bursting at the seam
06:42 AM on 01/25/2011
What's notable is how so many condemn the entire justice system - if not the entire country, the people and the culture - based on this one case. Some of the ideas I've seen expressed about Italy/Italians are just beyond absurd. In a lot of instances it's fairly obvious that much of the hostility expressed over this case was hostility that some already felt anyway. This case is just an excuse to express it. The same goes for much of the American exceptionalism expressed.
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jackbutler5555
10:02 AM on 01/25/2011
Sign me up as one who believes the police in Perugia and in other parts of Italy, who were assigned to the case, and the prosecutors in this particular case should be disparaged.

I can not make a generalization about the Italian justice system, but I do question how the rest of the country's judiciary can countenance the handling of this case.  Perhaps, the appeal will answer that question.
been2there
Facts have a liberal bias.
08:43 PM on 01/24/2011
Where did the knife come from? If it comes from the apartment, Knox's DNA would be on it from normal use!
09:01 PM on 01/24/2011
Yes. And it was from their kitchen.
overcat
My micro-bio is so full, it's bursting at the seam
05:21 AM on 01/25/2011
The knife in question came from Sollecito's house. What makes the knife matter is that, in addition to Knox's DNA, Meredith's DNA was found on it - and she'd never been to Sollecito's house.
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Gonzo36
Pro-awesome!
07:38 PM on 01/24/2011
According to Massei: Amanda and Raffaele decided to go meet Rudi and go do something at the cottage.

They took the Knife and they went to meet Rudi. They went to the cottage and did the crime. They stabbed Meredith with two knives. Amanda and Raffaele took the cellphones and ran away through the parking lot. But then they changed direction and headed out of town, where they tossed the cellphones.
Rudi tried to save Meredith, took money and credit cards and fled.
Then Amanda and Raffaele came back to the crime scene. They canceled their own traces and simulated the B & E in Filomena's room.
They believed The Knife theory. They accepted the fact that Amanda and Raffaele went there with The Knife. Nobody saw its transportation forth and back, nobody saw its washing, the luminol didn't reveal traces of washing in the sinks.
The other knife was never found. They will have to explain why the other knife was tossed and The Knife was brought back to the drawer, waiting for the police to come collect it.
Only one person claims to have seen and collected biological matter on The Knife. They will have to explain to us why that person couldn't be wrong.
The blade was stuck inside three times, only half the length of its blade. They will have to explain to us this strange way of killing never seen before.
They will have to explain many things. And after that the judges will be
FaceReality2
Democracy in the U.S. is an illusion
11:56 AM on 01/25/2011
The appeals court will recognize how preposterous this "theory" of the crime is.
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Pod-gers
Jeremy Lin = Game Change
07:27 PM on 01/24/2011
May I suggest that as a result of this ill-informed appeal, that amanda will get an additional 10 years!
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jackbutler5555
10:15 AM on 01/25/2011
Sure, you may suggest that.

But why?  Italian law permits two appeals.  It is routinely employed.  In the case of Rudy Guede (sorry to mention his name), the outcome of his appeal is a reduction of his sentence.  Reduction, not an increase.  Rudy is the guy whose DNA and fingerprints were found in the room, on and in the murder victim.
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babybecks
"because I am involved in Mankind;"
12:43 AM on 01/27/2011
What should Rudy whose DNA inside her get? A handshake from your diplomats? Love America!
07:04 PM on 01/24/2011
TO: EVERYONE

"Look at this case, from the point of view that the Prosecutor is corrupt, and it will all make sense."
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Pod-gers
Jeremy Lin = Game Change
07:23 PM on 01/24/2011
This trash talk against the Italian athorities will not help Amenda one bit.
09:04 PM on 01/24/2011
True.
09:09 PM on 01/24/2011
WE LOVE ITALY!

The fact of the matter is that if you really look at this case with the perspective that the Perugian prosecutor Giuliano Mignini has once again abused his power, the whole thing make sense.
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poeticjustice4all
Past = Prologue
06:00 PM on 01/24/2011
It's easy to doubt or discount a single piece of evidence. Looking back on a trial, it's very easy to isolate an item that proved murder, then suggest that one, single item is weak, flawed or open to interpretation.

It's hard to account for evil.

Knox wasn't convicted of murdering Meredith Kercher because of the cartwheels and kissy face. It wasn't the string of self-serving fabrications, false accusations and multiple confessions. Knox wasn't found guilty due to DNA evidence, lack of an alibi, the damning words of witnesses or the testimony from police and medical personnel.

Any one of those single things can be discounted and explained away by clever defense attorneys.

As in every murder trial, Knox was convicted and put in prison by the totality of the evidence.
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conscioushope
"There is no darkness but ignorance." Shakespeare
06:20 PM on 01/24/2011
Great post, poetic!

Fanned.

(And, I love your name!)
06:28 PM on 01/24/2011
The Italian authorities have Nothing on Amanda AND Nothing on Raffaele.

This case is a blight to Justice all over the world!
overcat
My micro-bio is so full, it's bursting at the seam
06:44 PM on 01/24/2011
"This case is a blight to Justice all over the world!"

You lead a rather narrowly focused, sheltered life, don't you?

Knox has been afforded all due process available under the laws of Italy, some of which is still ongoing and yet to be decided. There are, no doubt, untold numbers of people worldwide who would love to have a fraction of the due process that Knox has available to her.
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Pod-gers
Jeremy Lin = Game Change
07:18 PM on 01/24/2011
This case is solid, and the evidence is convincing. Talking this up will not change the fact that pretty Amanda slaughtered her roomate, meridath, IN COLD BLOOD, and left her to choke to death, gasping on her own blood.

You might make the case that Amenda did not "intend" to murder merideth, just scare her, and the knife slopped, and cut the artery, when meridath struggled, and screamed, but how do you explain that Amanda called others, but not an ambulance to save merideth from dying of the slash? Now, that was premeditated, that was murder.
05:47 PM on 01/24/2011
So as a result of the appeal...they get to retest the knife ....but now their co-conspirator gets to testify as an eye witness to their guilt? Plus a superior court's decision to not overturn their co-conspirators appeal which does not use the knife as the damning evidence, is allowed as supporting their conviction.

i can only wonder ...do they plan their next appeal on unintentionally incriminating themselves in the crime again?
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jackbutler5555
07:27 PM on 01/24/2011
What is the damning evidence that establishes Amanda's presence at the time of the murder?
08:22 PM on 01/24/2011
does she have to be present to be part of a murder conspiracy.

listen i admit i have trusted the verdict so far and i am not THE expert here. Participating in critiquing this trial is more about it being cathartic related to things i have been through. I probably should retract some of my impressions, but i think i am in the same boat as many here honing my impression forming skills and retracting when proved wrong.
MidwestAnna
I'm a moderate Christian, yes there's such a thing
03:54 PM on 01/24/2011
They lived together. I bet my husband's DNA is on our knife. So what.
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Pod-gers
Jeremy Lin = Game Change
03:57 PM on 01/24/2011
Indeed, her DNA is on HER knives, but this is NOT her knife, and it was found in her boyfriends house, not hers.
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Gonzo36
Pro-awesome!
04:04 PM on 01/24/2011
Amanda's DNA was found on a knife in her boyfriend's home that they had used to cook with the night before.
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Brad T Casali
Wissenschaftler
04:20 PM on 02/22/2011
Confused here as to what 'DNA' consists of. My first assumption is that the 'DNA' source was epithelial cells, which, of course, only contends that she used the knife at some point. I agree with the fact that if it's her [Amanda] kitchen knife, then of course her epithelial cells would be on it.

But, judging from the article, the DNA was found in the form of blood on the knife. Also, the fact that the experts wanted to open up the knife leads me to conclude that the blood must have been on the hilt/handle. Epithelial cells is one thing, but Amanda's blood on the knife, that happens to have Meredith's is another. Of course, there are other explanations, I admit.
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Pod-gers
Jeremy Lin = Game Change
03:42 PM on 01/24/2011
When I look at photos of Amanda, both before and after the knifing, I see burning rage in he eyes. Even if it turns out she is "not guilty" something needs to be done about all that rage.

As for the evidence, it speakes for itself. As the Judge found, in a previous review of the evidence, she was present at the crime. What a shame. if she had fessed up, like the other guy, she could have had a much reduced sentance, and might have been released by the time she was 35. She could have still gotten a job, fallen in love, and had a baby. Now, it would appear, her life, as she knew it, is over.

I find it hare to believe that in the US, she would have been sentanced to anything less than life in prison.

But, as I understand it, all new eveidence may be introduced into the appeal, and she could be given more time that in the first judgement.

Again, what a shame. Four young lives lost.
04:22 PM on 01/24/2011
Pod-gers says: As for the evidence, it speakes for itself.

Truth: there was No evidence.

pod-gers says: I find it hare to believe that in the US, she would have been sentanced to anything less than life in prison.

Truth:: in the US or anywhere else, she would have never been Indicted.
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jackbutler5555
06:46 PM on 01/24/2011
As for the evidence, it speakes for itself. As the Judge found, in a previous review of the evidence, she was present at the crime....

What exactly was the evidence that supports the finding she was present at the crime?  None of her DNA, blood, or fingerprints were found in the room in which the murder was committed.
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Pod-gers
Jeremy Lin = Game Change
07:07 PM on 01/24/2011
Exactly, she was in the other room, and didn't hear Merideth's screams! And then there is the bleach, and the staged burglary. And her conversations with F, and her lies to the police, all about where she was and where Merideth was. Yep. Pretty unbelievable!
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kcmookie
This is like a bad habit.....
02:45 PM on 01/24/2011
I was shocked to simply read the facts of this case. Without any conjecture or inflammatory rhetoric there is simply NOTHING there that suggests Knox was even remotely involved in this. What a complete travesty.
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poeticjustice4all
Past = Prologue
03:39 PM on 01/24/2011
Well, there are Knox's many confessions to the crime.
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Gonzo36
Pro-awesome!
03:47 PM on 01/24/2011
Nope. Not many. No confessions. At most she said she thought she might be there. And that was recanted the next day.
09:08 PM on 01/24/2011
What confessions? She said she was high and couldn't remember what happened that night.
abhorson
Si Si Chiquita. There's a woman worth her ransom
02:39 PM on 01/24/2011
OJ is innocent ... bad news is DNA evidence will show (again) Amanda had a bit "too much fun" on her Italian vacation.

I can't stand these sob stories...
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jackbutler5555
06:48 PM on 01/24/2011
That evidence being?
abhorson
Si Si Chiquita. There's a woman worth her ransom
06:58 AM on 01/26/2011
well, they are RE-testing the DNA from the knife that came back as a POSITIVE id the first time - that WAS the story, right ?

so, if they're testing it again - and it comes back positive again - it's "evidence", right?

and the argument that it got "corrupted" and somehow got there by mistake - reminds me of the OJ trial....

in particular of the SNL skit where Johnny Cochrane (RIP) (portrayed by an actor obviously) was asking the "expert witness" if it was "POSSIBLE that the dog had actually held the knife and commited the crimes.

if you do the crime - do the time
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topkatnc
Give a stray cat or dog a chance .
02:15 PM on 01/24/2011
Somehow I hope this gets to the truth ... If she is innocent , which I believe ... I hope this gets her closer to her release ...
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Pod-gers
Jeremy Lin = Game Change
03:53 PM on 01/24/2011
What is it that makes you believe she is "innocent?"
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jackbutler5555
07:15 AM on 01/26/2011
I don't know Amanda Knox is innocent.  The purpose of a trial should not be to establish innocence.
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poeticjustice4all
Past = Prologue
01:28 PM on 01/24/2011
Meredith Kercher's mom, Arline, says she misses her daughter more and more as each day passes. She remembers Meredith as a vibrant and carefree person who made friends easily.

“She was really excited and looking forward to improving her Italian."

“We would talk every day. She would tell me about all these funny, amusing stories about university."

“She was such a vibrant girl, such a carefree person. She was really enjoying herself and had made quite a few friends, especially among the English girls.”

The only person who had a conflict with Meredith Kercher was Amanda Knox. Among other things, Meredith was said to have clashed with Knox over her promiscuity.
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babybecks
"because I am involved in Mankind;"
01:34 PM on 01/24/2011
We all have heartstrings, which you always appeal to.

What role did Rudy play in this?
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kcmookie
This is like a bad habit.....
02:13 PM on 01/24/2011
So Meredith thought Amanda was a slvt, and therefore Amanda k!lled her? Really>?
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poeticjustice4all
Past = Prologue
02:21 PM on 01/24/2011
That's vulgar and unnecessary. Nobody has ever claimed Meredith Kercher used such language or expressed such thoughts. Please respect the dignity of the victim in this case, who cannot be here to defend herself.
FaceReality2
Democracy in the U.S. is an illusion
02:22 PM on 01/24/2011
Or she killed her because she refused to join in group sex. Or as part of a Satanic ritual. Or because Sollecito liked to read horror comic books.

But not because a known burglar, Rudy Guede, broke in, found Meredith there, and then assaulted and killed her, as happened in the Petit case in Connecticut.