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Case-Shiller: Home Prices Continued Their Descent In November

ALEX VEIGA and CHRISTOPHER S. RUGABER   01/25/11 05:01 PM ET   AP

Caseshiller Home Prices

A second wave of falling home prices is battering some cities that had escaped the worst of the housing market bust.

Prices in Seattle, Charlotte, N.C., and Portland, Ore., have hit their lowest points since peaking in 2006 and 2007. Denver and Minneapolis are nearing new lows. High unemployment and rising foreclosures are taking a toll even on markets that never overheated during the boom years.

Home values are dwindling in nearly every American market. Prices fell in November in all but one of the 20 cities in the Standard & Poor's/Case-Shiller index released Tuesday. Eight of those markets hit their lowest point since the housing bubble burst.

The damage from the real estate bubble has spread well beyond Las Vegas, Phoenix and Miami, which built frantically during the mid-2000s, and is sapping prices from coast to coast. In many places, prices are expected to keep falling for at least the next six months.

In Charlotte, homes are going for 2004 prices. Last year, more than half of the homes sold in surrounding Mecklenberg County were foreclosures, says Mark Vitner, a senior economist with Wells Fargo.

"There's a huge oversupply, and a lot of people are struggling," says Vitner, who works in Charlotte. "We're expecting it to fall even further in 2011."

The banking industry, which helped Charlotte boom over the past two decades and accounts for roughly one in every 11 jobs there, was hit hard during the recession. The city lost 12 percent of its financial jobs in 2008 and 2009, according to the Labor Department.

Adding to the region's economic woes, about a third of jobs tied to the auto industry also vanished in the downturn, said Michael Walden, an economist at North Carolina State University in Raleigh. Charlotte's unemployment rate was 12.8 percent a year ago, well above the national rate. It has fallen to 10.8 percent, still more than twice what it was when the recession started.

"We're feeling it, there's no doubt about that," says Mike Shaffer, owner of Century 21 Southern Comfort Realty.

Of course, while foreclosures weaken resale values, they're great for renters who want to own a home. Robert Hubbard closed on Monday on a three-bedroom, two-bath house in Charlotte that he bought for about $79,000. While it takes some looking to find the right place, the market is "saturated" with foreclosures, he says.

In Seattle and Portland, the two largest cities in the Pacific Northwest, prices peaked in the summer of 2007 and have fallen back to 2005 levels.

Foreclosures were uncommon in Seattle until about a year ago. Now they're dragging prices down, says Jim Conlan, branch manager for Century 21 North Homes Realty Inc. Home prices in Seattle were down nearly 5 percent in November from a year earlier.

"They're the anchor on the market here that's keeping it from starting to appreciate," Conlan said.

As usual after the holidays, customer traffic at open houses is picking up, he says.

The region's economy grew rapidly from 2002 to 2007 as Boeing rebounded from the post-9/11 drop in aircraft production and tech companies recovered from the dot-com bust. The region expanded at a faster clip than the rest of the country, attracting more people and lifting home prices.

"We had a bubble thing going on like everyone else," says Dick Conway, an economic consultant based in the city.

The region was damaged by the recession. One in every three construction jobs vanishes. Washington Mutual, the nation's largest thrift, collapsed and took 3,500 jobs with it. Seattle unemployment jumped from 4.1 percent in December 2007, when the recession began, to 9.1 percent in November 2010.

Portland home prices have suffered from historically low timber yields and deep cuts within so-called Silicon Forest high-tech companies.

And while Seattle's two biggest employers, Boeing and Microsoft, haven't laid off many workers, they won't need as many new people as the economy improves, Conway says. During the recovery after the 2001 recession, Boeing was a major job generator, directly or indirectly creating 65,000 jobs.

But in this recovery, "it's going to be closer to zero," Conway said.

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AP Real Estate Writer Derek Kravitz in Washington contributed to this report.

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A second wave of falling home prices is battering some cities that had escaped the worst of the housing market bust. Prices in Seattle, Charlotte, N.C., and Portland, Ore., have hit their lowest poin...
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07:14 AM on 02/04/2011
RE: THE HOUSING MARKET: THERE ARE THOSE OF US WHO NEED TO MOVE- ON. UNRELATED TO MONEY ISSUES, WE HAVE A BALL AND CHAIN AROUND OUR LEGS, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO BUYER'S, FOR OUR PROPERTIES. IT'S TIME THE LEGAL COMMUNITY, CONSIDERS OUR IMPRISONMENT, TO OUR EXISTING HOME MORTGAGES, BY WAY OF LEGAL CONTRACT UN-CONSTITUTIONAL. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO SUFFER DEGREDATION BECAUSE OF WHAT THE BANKS, AND WALL STREET HAS DONE TO US,OUR LAW MAKER'S, CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE, IN THE CONTRACTUAL WORLD. WE DID NOT MARRY THESE HOUSES. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO DIVORCE THEM, AND HAVE TO PAY, AND PAY, AND PAY. ......GIVE US A BREAK!!!! THERE HAS TO BE OPTION 'S.. UNLIKE WHAT WE ARE FACED WITH. SWAP-MORTGAGES, SWAP- HOUSES, MOVE-UP, MOVE DOWN- THE FREE INTERPRISE SYSTEM WENT DOWN THE TUBES, WHEN MORTGAGES WERE WRITTEN WITHOUT AN OPEN END. MID-SEVENTIES, NO MORE OPEN ENDS. THE BANKS BECAME SOO GREEDY... AND TOOK ALL OUR TRADING CHOICES AWAY FROM US. WE NEED THOSE BACK PEOPLE. MANY OF OUR MORTGAGES CAN BE ASSUMED BY QUALIFIED PEOPLE, WHO WANT HOMES... BUT THE BANKS WILL NOT ALLOW IT. THEIR AGREEMENTS ARE WAY TO TIGHT. WE NEED HELP!!!
07:30 AM on 02/04/2011
RE; THE ABOVE WRITTEN COMMENT.
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builderman55
Featherless Biped
12:27 PM on 01/27/2011
And the middle class continues to lose wealth as the banks and Wall Street hoard their taxpayer bloated largesse...
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guveqzero
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10:05 AM on 01/27/2011
Does Obama read these reports? The large companies won't be hiring people other than Google, which is biased to adding recent graduates. Skilled labor is available and is an untapped resourse in the US. The smaller high technology companies are collapsing under the missguided idea of globalization. I guess lawyers make poor business executives.
12:07 PM on 01/26/2011
Prices still have a long way to fall (about 20% in many areas) back to 1998-2000 levels when the cheep money and fraud began to artificially inflate prices.
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Shaun Hensley
The American Experiment has failed
11:10 AM on 01/26/2011
People were stupid not to walk away in 2008.
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Peter007
08:46 AM on 01/26/2011
One of the factors that drove up Real Estate between 2003 and 2008 was the fact that Real Estate prices were going UP !!!

One of the factors driving Real Estate Prices down now is the fact that
PRICES ARE GOING DOWN.

Momentum.
It's powerful.
04:51 AM on 01/26/2011
"And while Seattle's two biggest employers, Boeing and Microsoft, haven't laid off many workers, they won't need as many new people as the economy improves, Conway says."

That's because the new hires are being made in India. Microsoft is a big proponent of reduction in the US in favor of hiring in India
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11:03 PM on 01/25/2011
Let the home prices fall down until the prices are more in line with wages.
Let's not forget, on top of a mortgage, a family has to pay for 1 or 2 cars, & save for college tuition & retirement & how about eating 3 times a day!
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
10:35 PM on 01/25/2011
the plan is to let the banks make as much money over as long a period of time to make up for the massive losses they are incurring.....we have years of this to come.....30-40% downward if it all adjusted today....if the toilet keeps circling in 2-3 years it may be more.
10:17 PM on 01/25/2011
There will be another 2 trillion for the banks to write off in bad loaned for the high end of the housing market.

The rich speculated as if they were drunk just like everyone else. The difference is they would put down 10% and have walked away or are walking away from there commitments sticking to the banks.

Homes and condos from $500,000 and up were built as if every millionaire in the world was moving to America.

It was easy for me and others to see the high end speculation taking place and knew the disaster that was going to happen.

For every millionaire in America there are over a thousand properties he can choose from. A little nuts ? You bet is and this next correction that is already talking place is going to cost big time.
09:28 PM on 01/25/2011
As they should
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Southern Cali Native84
Waitin' 4 the race-istG.O.Pgeneration 2d+i+e off
08:22 PM on 01/25/2011
I'm in the process of buying a beautiful condo and I'm only 26 years old :)
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Peter007
08:49 AM on 01/26/2011
I've been in Real Estate for 30 years.

Its always been boom and bust.

10 years from now, people will be pulling out their hair wondering why they didn't pick up that condo for $100,000 that is now selling at $200,000.
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Southern Cali Native84
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01:40 PM on 01/26/2011
Yea.. it's going for $115,000 in a well kept up expensive neighborhood, down the street from my parents' house; or should I say my other home considering I will inherit it someday.
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07:37 PM on 01/25/2011
And it will continue to descend.  2011 is the year big fat commercial real estate notes come due.
 
Fasten your seat belts everyone; it's going to be a bumpy year decade.
06:11 PM on 01/25/2011
My guess is another 30% or 40% on the downside. Housing has to roll back to the mid 1990's and it's still floating around 2003. Anybody that watches housing prices knows they are still ridiculous.
oilfield
small manufacturing business owner
10:29 PM on 01/25/2011
i agree....30-40% more to the bad....mainly because of lack of down payments in the non saving u s of a.
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OllaBarabolla
11:13 PM on 01/25/2011
That's because wages never kept up with the price of homes! I hope the next bubble to burst will be college education & tuition. But parents & students seem too stupid to realize what is going on. College tuition is rising yearly 3 times the inflation rate. And the jobs simply will not be there after the students graduate. A huge percentage of the expensively educated graduates will be working at jobs that at one time did not require a college degree.
05:21 AM on 01/26/2011
And property taxes, at least here, are rising by about 33-50%!!  Makes no sense, paying 30-50% less for a house, and having your property taxes rise so much, in spite of the lesser price... except local governments need more tax money to keep their govts afloat, and that's the easiest way of getting revenue.  :(
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05:51 PM on 01/25/2011
6.5 million Option ARMs are set to reset by the summer of 2012. Over $13 billion worth in next September alone. The vast majority of these will end up in the foreclosure market. And you thought Sub-Prime was bad.