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House Republicans Consider Privatizing Medicare

RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR   01/27/11 11:23 PM ET   AP

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WASHINGTON — Months after they hammered Democrats for cutting Medicare, House Republicans are debating whether to relaunch their quest to privatize the health program for seniors. House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan, R-Wis., is testing support for his idea to replace Medicare with a fixed payment to buy a private medical plan from a menu of coverage options.

Party leaders will determine if the so-called voucher plan will be part of the budget Republicans put forward in the spring.

"No decisions have been made on the details of our House GOP budget," Michael Steel, a spokesman for Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said Thursday. "There are a lot of ideas out there, and we're going to listen to our members and the American people."

Medicare was one of the most highly charged issues during last year's congressional elections, which put the House back in GOP control. Republicans slammed Democrats for cutting Medicare by about 6 percent over 10 years to finance President Barack Obama's health overhaul.

But replacing Medicare's open-ended benefit with a fixed payment would cut projected spending much more deeply.

"Anyone who doesn't think privatization will mean severe cuts to Medicare benefits, I have a bridge I'd like to sell them," said Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y. "Privatization will make the cuts previously proposed by either party look tame."

Republicans say it may be the only way to preserve taxpayer-funded health care for seniors in an aging society. The Congressional Budget Office reported this week that the government will borrow 40 cents of every dollar it spends this year, as the deficit hits a staggering $1.5 trillion. Over the long term, health care costs that keep growing more rapidly than the economy are the biggest challenge to the budget.

The idea of a Medicare voucher recently received bipartisan support from a debt reduction panel led by former Republican Sen. Pete Domenici of New Mexico and prominent Democratic economist Alice Rivlin, a former Federal Reserve vice chairman. Obama's own debt commission said the idea should be considered as an option if other strategies fail to get health care costs under control.

Under Ryan's plan, current Medicare recipients would get to stay in the program. People within 10 years of eligibility – ages 55 to 64 – would also go into Medicare. But those now 54 and under would get a fixed payment from the government when they become eligible at age 65. They would be able to use the voucher to buy a Medicare-approved private plan from a menu of coverage levels and options.

The amount of the voucher would be based on total current Medicare spending and indexed to grow year by year thereafter. But that growth would be less than the torrid pace of health care inflation now. Proponents say it would be like putting the health care system on a diet, forcing every player from drug companies to hospitals to be more efficient.

Americans are wary of the idea. An Associated Press-GfK poll last year found 51 percent opposed a voucher plan for Medicare, while 35 percent said they supported it. Opposition was strong among seniors and baby boomers. But those born after 1980 favored the approach by 47 percent to 41 percent.

House Republicans have backed Ryan's idea before, in a 2009 budget plan supported by Boehner. It's unclear whether they will do that now. They might save it for deficit reduction talks with Obama later in the year.

"We'll outline our budget in the months ahead, after we see the president's budget," said Boehner spokesman Steel.

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WASHINGTON — Months after they hammered Democrats for cutting Medicare, House Republicans are debating whether to relaunch their quest to privatize the health program for seniors. House Budget C...
WASHINGTON — Months after they hammered Democrats for cutting Medicare, House Republicans are debating whether to relaunch their quest to privatize the health program for seniors. House Budget C...
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mataylor16
You all want it one way. But, its the other way. -
01:20 PM on 02/15/2011
Boehner: "Hey taxpayers, pull my finger!"
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MiamiMama
09:51 AM on 02/14/2011
Today is Valentine's Day...Show the Love

I would love to see every Republican defeated because they are ready to dismantle the middle class. The poor never had anything, which means we are next.
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MiamiMama
09:45 AM on 02/14/2011
Republicans listen up....you were elected to create jobs and save homes. Did you not get the memo? Oh, that's right, you are out collecting that money from the Health Care Industry to repeal Obamacare for 2012. In fact, you don't really care what happens to people because you have plenty of money for yourself. And we thought you cared.......
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mataylor16
You all want it one way. But, its the other way. -
01:21 PM on 02/15/2011
We did?
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MiamiMama
09:43 AM on 02/14/2011
Privatize medicare and every senior citizen and those soon to be will work tirelessly to see you are defeated for your next election. This will never happen.
09:28 PM on 02/10/2011
Just Move Medicare over to the Congressional Health Plan which is subsidized +or- 85% by tax payer money. Best Plan in the Country.
Why?
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rtgmath
There has got to be a better way!
02:33 PM on 02/08/2011
Those who support the voucher idea have no idea how things work. There simply is no system of insurance for the elderly, and no insurer would take the risks since the costs would be guaranteed to be higher than any amount the vouchers would be written for.

The voucher system would be a precursor to no vouchers at all, no payments of any kind for health care for the elderly.

I find it ironic that one group that consistently supports the Republicans over the Democrats is the elderly, a group that Republicans know they can target for cuts and still maintain their loyalty! The Democrats fight for their benefits, but because the elderly are less sympathetic to social changes, they are more likely to vote on Social issues rather than Pocketbook issues.

Further, since people tend to become more conservative with age (most people do, some few do not), Republicans feel they will have steady support from a group that readily takes abuse and being stabbed in the back.

But how to tell Seniors that their socially conservative representatives are eying greedily their benefits? Or how to tell them in such a way that they will listen?
09:41 PM on 02/10/2011
The Great Republican plan to d/c Medicare. The GOP has been trying to do away with Medicare from day 1 of its passage, when they labeled it Socialized Medicine. It’s now been long enough that people have forgotten or never taught what Medicare changed; the elderly never would have to choose between food and healthcare again. But Washington has eaten away at the program benefits and turned it over to the insurance industry to manage which has slowly deigned the elderly the protection of Medicare. By labeling Medicare an entitlement the Republicans began a slow but methodical campaign of disinformation to gain support to end Medicare. Has that time come? Ask the American people. How many people can we have in the street before we notice poverty.
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ZeraLee
A Citizen's View from Main Street
05:16 PM on 02/05/2011
Converting Medicare from a responsibility to an expenditure is the easy and cowardly way of letting it bleed to death.

Call it the Pushing Daisies Act.

Republicans reduce everything to money and religion. They have lost their humanity and their sense of nation.
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tinka
tick tack paddy whack
12:15 PM on 02/03/2011
Stop trying to dismantle the government and work on stimulating the growth economy. The Republican Party constantly talks about private industry as our future. So… create something. American corporation used to spend money in research and development. We were once proud of our creations. We were once the country of ideas. Today corporations just want to manage entitlement programs already paid for by the people. Taking over current programs does not create new money. It doesn’t create anything.
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LV711
The truth never goes out of style
09:40 AM on 02/02/2011
It's pretty clear the Republican leaders, or lack thereof, haven't a clue about governing. Repeal old laws; change stuff they don't understand; use old timey scare tactics to get elected to office, etc. is a joke. If they ever, and this is a stretch, embrace education instead of ignoring it, perhaps they will have a better feel about how the real world works.
01:27 PM on 02/01/2011
Privatizing Medicare is going to happen whether you progressives like it or not. Sure, privatizing Medicare isn't perfect, but perfect is the enemy of the good. They're still going to get vouchers to buy private health insurance. Half a pie is better than no pie. THERE JUST AREN'T ENOUGH VOTES IN CONGRESS TO KEEP MEDICARE GOING!

You progressives have to realize that you are a tiny minority in this country. The sooner you realize it and completely support the democratic party, the better for all of us.

And cheer up -- soon, ALL 50 million + of the irresponsible fools out there without health insurance who are clogging up our ERs will be forced to buy health insurance. And if they don't, they'll pay a fine. I hope they all lose their homes.
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Dave Thinkster Paulson
A concerned American moderate
11:06 PM on 01/30/2011
Let’s see: the problem is that we have rapidly escalating healthcare costs and a growing population of elderly who will be reliant upon Medicare.

So, what’s the GOP solution for this mess?

Well, we need look no further than the last major healthcare legislation authored and passed by Republicans to understand their priorities and strategy. That effort brought us Medicare Part D. It was completely unfunded, and designed to maintain corporate profits by prohibiting the government from negotiating drug prices.

So, with anything that might reduce corporate profits off the table, there’s really little latitude for alternative action with Medicare. Since the federal deficit has already been ballooned to record levels in order to save Wall Street profits, another Medicare Part D unfunded gift to the healthcare industry won’t fly. Add in the strict Republican prohibition against any tax increases that could increase revenues, and the GOP is left with but a single path of action — reduce services.

Vouchers are the answer for maximizing government funding of healthcare industry profits without increasing expenditures. It’s the GOP’s way of saying, “Here you go Cigna. Uncle Sam just can’t afford anymore, but we’ll make sure you get every penny available.”

Of course, the countervailing message to America’s elderly is akin to “Thanks for your contribution. You’re on your own now. We hope you won’t become ill, but if you do, may you die quickly.” But, oh well, that’s life; resources are limited and somebody has to make a sacrifice.
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Inkosi
The gods themselves rage against stupidity
09:36 AM on 01/31/2011
F&F - you finally got it right! Just die old folks and get out of here so we can keep all the money and give it to Wall Street.
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crm2008
12:27 AM on 02/01/2011
It's just the way Alan Grayson stated it would be.The Republican health care plan is to die quickly.
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dsmom
07:36 PM on 01/30/2011
I'm sure the republicans in congress will be exempt from this. Don't they get free health care for life?
kayatz3
No matter where you go, there you are..
03:34 AM on 02/08/2011
yep!
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
12:23 PM on 01/30/2011
Let me see if I understand:

Private industry takes health care from 5.2% of GDP (1960) to over 16% of GDP (2007).

With that, private industry provides us with health care twice as expensive as the average costs of other industrialized countries.

For this twice as expensive care - we receive the 37th best care of the top 191 countries surveyed.

With the 37th best care, we rank 72nd in overall health of the top 191 countries surveyed.

And, the republican plan is to privatize the only cost controlled health care we have in the hopes of creating what?

I've got a better plan for them, one I'm sure they'll appreciate, it's simple really, Anyone one who has achieved the age of 65, and failed to amass a minimum personal wealth of $1,000,000 - must report to their local Medicare provider for immediate euthanasia - this will solve the funding problems of both Social Security and Medicare, decrease the surplus population and give us the real "death panels" the republicans have been talking about.
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Inkosi
The gods themselves rage against stupidity
09:49 AM on 01/31/2011
We already have death panels. It is the insurance companies who deny everything and audit every thing your physician orders! One script for 30 pills cost $635 locally, in my mother's Senior Citizen Village 30 pills cost $750. Be Proud Private Corporate Sector for fleecing old folks.
09:33 AM on 01/30/2011
OK Mr. Speaker - you've voted to cut a lot of things, (hope all you seniors out there are happy now), PLEASE START AT LEAST TALKING ABOUT JOBS. You know, the jobs you incessantly campaigned for. When in the he// are you going to create jobs? You probably think that giving tax cuts to the wealthy was great, but you probably think that advocating to do away with SS and Medicare (as we know it) is your finest hour upon the stage (provided to you by private for-profit insurance companies because they gave you thousands of dollars and now you have to do what they tell you to do). You can also stop crying now - it's getting old.
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H P
Citizen
08:57 AM on 01/30/2011
All those senior citizens who voted republican...
this is what you got..
Repubs taking away your medicare.
and repubs scream about the obama 'death panels'

you get what you vote for folks
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temogen
4/27/11
10:32 AM on 01/30/2011
how true voters remorse coming next
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ywcachieve
President Barack H. Obama supporter.
11:12 AM on 01/30/2011
Seniors voting against their own interest, by voting Repub is mind-boggling.
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68Namvet
Sioux, French, German, Jew, American mutt
12:05 PM on 01/30/2011
My mother is 90 - voted republican since before Eisenhower - and so loved him (she served as a nurse in WWII in Europe) - she decided to always vote republican. She hated Bush, but voted for him because of that (R) following his name. You can't convince her otherwise - she cares not about logic, facts, nor how bad they really are - just so long as that (R) is there.

God my mother is stupid!