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John Paulson's $5 Billion Payout Shocks, Raise Questions

First Posted: 01/28/11 04:27 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:30 PM ET

Meltdown Hedge Funds
Billionaire hedge fund manager John Paulson

BOSTON (By Svea Herbst-Bayliss) - Billionaire hedge fund manager John Paulson, whose bet against the overheated housing market made him one of the world's wealthiest people, became a lot richer last year.

By earning an estimated $5 billion in 2010 thanks to bets the economy would recover, the 55-year old investor likely set a new record for the $1.9 trillion hedge fund industry's biggest-ever annual payday. He beat his own record, which he set in 2007 with a $4 billion haul made off the subprime bet.

The Wall Street Journal first reported Paulson's payout in its Friday edition, and investors familiar with Paulson's portfolios said the number is likely correct given the manager's asset size and his recent profitable bets on Citigroup and gold.

For Paulson, the payday comes after he reversed deep losses in his funds halfway through the year, and it may put to rest lingering talk that his investing prowess was limited to a lucky bet during the subprime era, investors said.

"He did it on the short side and on the long side," said Brad Alford, founder of Alpha Capital Management, which invests with hedge funds. "He proved that he can really do it all."

Other prominent managers like Appaloosa Management's David Tepper and Bridgewater Associates' Ray Dalio likely also earned 10-figure paychecks, the Journal reported.

EYEBROWS RAISED

But Paulson and other managers' eye-popping earnings are sure to raise new questions about how managers are paid in an industry known for charging hefty fees that often guarantee generous payouts even if returns were merely average.

Last year, the average hedge fund gained 10.5 percent, lagging the Standard & Poor's 500 index by 15 percent and falling short of their own 19 percent return in 2009, data from Hedge Fund Research show. But managers will collect 2 percent management fees and about a 20 percent cut of their gains.

By definition, this raises the payouts for managers at the industry's biggest firms.

In Paulson's case, the fact that his 17-year old firm Paulson & Co oversees about $35 billion fattened up his payout. To be fair, Paulson also invests his entire fortune in his funds and since his gold fund gained 35 percent, his investment gains added billions to his payout.

For other managers, including ones who lost money, however, the industry' payouts may seem less fair, investors and analysts said.

"People are fine with hedge fund fee structures as long as they are making great returns," said Stewart Massey, who invests with hedge funds at Massey, Quick & Co. "But where they get antsy is where managers have middling returns and the managers are still making a lot of money."

As hedge funds look for new investors, experts say that investors' demands on pay will hold more sway. A push from some investors to set a so-called hurdle rate, or minimum accepted rate of return, for manager pay, or to reward them only if they exceed certain benchmarks may gain traction.

ROAD TO BIG PAYDAYS

The big paydays at hedge funds are likely to confirm that hedge funds can be modern-day gold mines on Wall Street and spark even more movement from the world of banking and mutual fund management into this asset class.

"Many of these big hedge fund managers are now earning more than professional athletes," said Kenneth Murray, president of Mercury Partners, which recruits staff for hedge funds. "And they can do this for the rest of their lives, unlike sports stars who have to find another job after the age of 35.... 100 percent, hedge funds are the places where everyone wants to be."

But he and other recruiters agreed that the hedge fund industry's biggest payouts really will be limited to its biggest stars, noting that working at a hedge fund is no longer a sure way to easy riches.

As the industry matures, these people said that it is becoming harder for newcomers to break in and that portfolio managers need to bring long records of top performance before getting a job. Also with investors becoming pickier, it is harder to raise a lot of money.

"If you've been in the game and successful, you may be set for life, but for everyone else it is becoming tougher," Murray said.

(Editing by Robert MacMillan)

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BOSTON (By Svea Herbst-Bayliss) - Billionaire hedge fund manager John Paulson, whose bet against the overheated housing market made him one of the world's wealthiest people, became a lot richer last ...
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JPETERB
01:33 PM on 01/31/2011
No wonder hedge fund are essentially unregulated by Congress and the derived income is taxed at such a low, low rate. These people really "earned" these many billions from "betting" within a deregulated and carefully rigged system over which they and their politician servants exert almost complete control. Since most people who "lost" these billions to these "earners" do not know what is actually going on behind the trading floor, this is best defined as a racket, and not as a business. There is no law of business balance operating here.
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08:13 AM on 01/31/2011
Time to round these people up.

Speculators contribute precisely NOTHING to the lives of people. It's completely artificial.

How have we go so far wrong from INVESTMENT in wealth generating business and activity.
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PhilipTaylor
Legalized Bribery is an Oxymoron - must END
07:38 AM on 01/31/2011
So this is OUR NEW SUPER-HERO.

LMAO!
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DD2005
12:53 AM on 01/31/2011
Isn't this the dude who was privy to Goldman Sachs' Mortgages and was able to select a basket of the worst for his fund so that he could short the new product he helped create with the help of Goldman insiders?

My point? Nobody makes this kind of money without knowing something that the general population doesn't. Nobody.
01:05 PM on 01/31/2011
Very true. Regardless of sophisticated models, insider information is passed along all the time, but because it goes back and forth between the "right" people, it's ignored. I'm all for someone making a big payday with their brains and skills, but not by manipulating people.
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Robert SF
10:41 AM on 02/02/2011
I still can't believe how what he did isn't illegal. I've heard that Goldman Sachs broke the law, but Poulson didn't. But how? They were both in on it together.
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11:25 PM on 01/30/2011
The similarities between the last days of Rome and our current society are astounding.
http://bizcovering.com/investing/stock-market-crash-2-0/
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Peter Noble 2
09:03 PM on 01/30/2011
And we stay quiet, while we struggle to pay our bills, we stay quiet, while our poor remain underemployed we stay quiet and while Egypt erupts we celebrate Capitalism...
11:03 PM on 01/30/2011
Wrong. You want to make that kinda money, instead of complaining on the huff post, here's an idea : apply to be a hedge fund manager!
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JPETERB
01:35 PM on 01/31/2011
Or an NBA All Star player. Either way, only the already worthy need apply.
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mcmutter
A Groover has to expect a few setbacks .....
07:13 PM on 01/30/2011
Amerika is all about GREED ....
08:25 PM on 01/30/2011
The left are bitter about somebody else success.
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11:26 PM on 01/30/2011
There is no success in theft. It is merely a crime.
http://bizcovering.com/investing/stock-market-crash-2-0/
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Sirlarek
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11:37 PM on 01/30/2011
Left and right are not the same as class issued arguments. Complaining or pointing out greed as a corrupting factor in the American economy, indeed in the world economy is absolutely appropriate.

Without any doubt....disparity is 4 times greater today then it was 30 years ago. Those are metrics that read like a thermometer under the tongue. You can call it what you want...the fever is killing the patient.
05:50 PM on 01/30/2011
$5,000,000,000.00 Taxed at 15% instead of 35% = $1,000,000,000.00 Tax break for the rich.
Thanks Mitch, John and yes you too Mr. President.
Let's cut services to the poor to make that up!
08:24 PM on 01/30/2011
It 0 tax in switzerland.
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knosiswar
Major General Smedley Butler - get to know him
10:28 AM on 01/31/2011
Is that for sure? Is his payout taxed as Capital Gains since it was his paycheck and not returns on his personal stock? I was thinking the way you were, but I question if his payout is taxed as Capital Gains.
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stargazer13
To Love One Is To Love All
04:24 PM on 01/30/2011
I smell corruption !!

and crimes against people the world over !

and yet the thieving continues !

why is that ?
Fed just dropped there debits on to the U.S.Treasury ,s books !! how ? much does that bring the total in debt ! that we the citizens now owe ?
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stargazer13
To Love One Is To Love All
04:18 PM on 01/30/2011
well that,s where some !

of our money ended up but we owe trillions !!

soooooooo where is the rest ???
03:41 PM on 01/30/2011
The parallel USA GOVT...
John Paulson , the President, Blankfein, the Treasury, and Greenspam, the economical and financial adviser....Am I wrong?....
03:29 PM on 01/30/2011
A cell at Gitmo...
03:28 PM on 01/30/2011
his mentor, a. greenspam, is his financial adviser?!
Smells fishy...
02:38 PM on 01/30/2011
If the average income of a family of 4 is around $50,000.making $1,000,000 per yr. you're income is that of 20 families.if you're making $1,000,000,000 you're income is that of 20,000 families and if you make 5 billion your income is that of 100,000 families.Last yr.,24 hedge fund managers made at least ,1 billion each.Its true that America rewards hard work,I ask though,Do these guys really work more that 20,000 families,or do they just know how to game the system?In monopoly,you trade houses for hotels,get all the hotels,end up with all the money,game over.I wonder if Vegas is taking bets on when we'll have the worlds 1st.Trillionaire! PS.They keep telling Us that we can't afford a living wage for all.If the economy doesn't benefit the majority what good is it?Maybe a billion dollar income should pay taxes like 20,000 families do.
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JPETERB
01:38 PM on 01/31/2011
That would be fair. And so would it would be laughed off of the table at the public's Congress. If it even made it into a room in the current Congress.
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Peter007
09:19 AM on 01/30/2011
It's obvious this man understands money, the economy, and trends more than anyone in Washington.

This man should be Secretary of The treasury and he should head the Obama economic team.

This guy is the Labron James, the Willie Mays, the Tiger Woods of Finance and economics.

We have guys in Washington that can't even make the minor leagues, making decisions with our money and future.

This guy was correct and the Obama team was WRONG !.
03:26 PM on 01/30/2011
Peter, the inner or the defender of plutocrats:
stealing ( green span is his financial adviser today!!!????) , after you designed the scam, ...is ...stealing.
03:27 PM on 01/30/2011
The fund is another scam of the plutocrats to steal, profit on the insider info and designed bubbles....
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Peter007
05:20 PM on 01/30/2011
How is it stealing?

Does Oprah steal too?
Mark Zuckerberg ?