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Hillary Clinton: Egypt Must Transition To Democracy

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LOLITA C. BALDOR   01/30/11 07:09 PM ET   AP

WASHINGTON — The U.S. appealed for an orderly transition to lasting democracy in Egypt even as escalating violence in the American ally threatened Mideast stability and put President Barack Obama in a diplomatic bind.

Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton refused to speculate on the future of Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak or his teetering government. But U.S. officials, she said, "obviously want to see people who are truly committed to democracy, not to imposing any ideology on Egyptians."

She warned against a takeover resembling the one in Iran, with a "small group that doesn't represent the full diversity of Egyptian society" seizing control and imposing its ideological beliefs.

Clinton's comments came as the Obama administration tried to get a handle on the fast-moving situation in Egypt, a critical U.S. friend in the long quest for peace in the Middle East. Left largely unsaid is the growing fear that a government hostile to the U.S. could gain control of such a large and important Arab nation.

The U.S. wants to see "real democracy" emerge in Egypt, Clinton said, "not a democracy for six months or a year and then evolving into essentially a military dictatorship or a so-called democracy that then leads to what we saw in Iran."

Clinton, in interviews on the five Sunday morning TV shows, repeatedly stressed that Egypt's future lies in the hands of its people, hewing to the administration line of refusing to take sides publically in the upheaval.

While there have been repeated calls for Egypt to move toward democracy, it was not clear what efforts the administration may be making behind the scenes to influence the situation.

Obama called foreign leaders this weekend to convey his administration's desire for restraint and an orderly transition to a more responsive government in Egypt. The White House said he spoke with leaders from Britain, Turkey, Israel and Saudi Arabia, and sought their input. The president also got a briefing Sunday morning from his national security staff, and senior policy officials gathered for a deputies committee meeting to discuss the situation in Egypt.

Clinton made clear there are no discussions at this time about cutting off aid to Egypt, which receives about $1.5 billion in annual foreign assistance from the U.S. to help modernize its armed forces and strengthen regional security and stability. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs had said Friday that military and civilian aid was under review.

Asked if aid should be withheld, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell said the U.S. should wait and see what happens before making such decisions.

While Clinton did not voice support for a continued Mubarak reign or any other political party, she outlined U.S. expectations from any future government.

"There has to be a commitment by whoever is in the government that they will engage in a national dialogue with the people of Egypt, with the aim at taking actions that will meet the legitimate grievances of the Egyptian people for more participation, for respect for human rights, for the universal human rights they are entitled to, for economic reforms that will give more opportunity," she told reporters traveling with her to Haiti on Sunday.

Asked if she thought Mubarak had taken the necessary steps so far to hold on, Clinton said: "It's not a question of who retains power. . It's how are we going to respond to the legitimate needs and grievances expressed by the Egyptian people and chart a new path. Clearly, the path that has been followed has not been one that has created that democratic future, that economic opportunity that people in the peaceful protests are seeking."

Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., demurred when asked if the U.S. should abandon support of Mubarak. He said the U.S. needs to "be on the right side of history" and do a better job of arguing for human rights.

"It was clear for a long time that the kind of repressive regime . that Mubarak controls, sooner or later there is going to be great difficulties," said McCain.

House Speaker John Boehner praised the administration's handling of the situation and said the U.S. must continue to support Egypt's move to democracy.

"What we don't want are radical ideologies to take control of a very large and important country in the Middle East," he said.

The State Department is recommending that Americans leave Egypt as soon as possible and said it is prepared to evacuate thousands of U.S. citizens on chartered planes beginning Monday. Due to Internet interruptions, however, officials said they must rely largely on friends and families in the U.S. to relay that information to the stranded Americans.

Assistant Secretary of State Janice Jacobs told reporters Sunday that it will take several flights over the coming days to accommodate all American citizens who want to leave the country.

Officials are considering three possible destinations, Athens, Greece; Istanbul, Turkey; and Nicosia, Cyprus. Jacobs, who's in charge of consular affairs, said the U.S. may also send planes to other cities in Egypt, such as Luxor, if there are a number of Americans stranded there. Americans taking the charter will be billed for the flight and must make their own travel arrangements home from Europe.

Anyone needing information on the flights should check the State Department and U.S. embassy websites or send an e-mail to egyptemergencyusc(at)state.gov. They can also call 1-888-407-4747 toll-free from within the U.S. and Canada. From outside the U.S. and Canada people can call 1-202-501-4444.

Canada announced Sunday it would charter flights as early as Monday that will fly Canadians who wish to leave to London, Paris or Frankfurt.

U.S. military leaders reached out to their counterparts in Egypt and the Middle East. Defense Secretary Robert Gates spoke to Egypt and Israel's ministers of defense. Adm. Mike Mullen, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, called Egyptian Lt. Gen. Sami Enan, expressing his appreciation for the continued professionalism of Egypt's military during the crisis, said Mullen spokesman Capt. John Kirby.

Mubarak appointed a vice president on Saturday for the first time in more than 30 years – the U.S. long has pressed for that and Clinton called it the "bare beginning of what needs to happen" – and has pledged to make reforms.

"We want to see free and fair elections and we expect that this will be one of the outcomes of what is going on," Clinton said, adding that the U.S. is committed to working with the Egyptians who are interested in true democracy.

Clinton appeared on "Fox News Sunday," NBC's "Meet the Press," CBS' "Face the Nation," CNN's "State of the Union" and ABC's "This Week." McConnell was on NBC, Boehner on Fox and McCain on CNN.

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Associated Press writers Bradley Klapper, Ben Feller and Matthew Lee contributed to this report.

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Online:

U.S. Embassy in Cairo: http://egypt.usembassy.gov/consular/travpubl.html

State Department travel information: http://tinyurl.com/6d2uapq

State Department: http://www.state.gov/p/nea/ci/eg/

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Online:

http://egypt.usembassy.gov/consular/travpubl.html

http://www.state.gov/p/nea/ci/eg/

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12:21 PM on 02/03/2011
"I really consider President and Mrs. Mubarak to be friends of my family."
– Hillary Clinton
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FACTISFACT
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06:40 AM on 02/01/2011
01/01/2011

US and European countries are intentionally not understanding that the public wants the US to tell the Zionist boot leakier paid servant to go and leave Egypt not the advise for peaceful transition the transition will take in cool atmosphere once the bacteria is removed.

This is the time for the West and Europe to ask the Egypt President the betrayer to the nation and the helper of Israel the committal of genocide in Palestine to get out and not cry over the interest of Israel.

Mubarak is finished and with him do not finish the future good relation for the cause of a cancer which one US will have to surgically operate and cut off its body and burn it in sulfuric Acid
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the West and the Europe called for Democracy and now nurture it to grow but done mix Israel spices to it if it is done the democracy will turn into demon.
02:26 AM on 02/01/2011
The State Department has been trying to broker a set of transitional reforms in Egypt since the beginning of the Obama administration. They did this. They've been telling Mubarek for years that his days were numbered. Who could engineer an eighteen point country-wide protest with only 100 dead among 80 million people? You think the army decided not to fire on the people on their own? Note the generous absence of anti-US rhetoric. Ever think about what the internet killswitch is *really* keeping out?
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01:35 PM on 02/01/2011
You hit the nail on the head! Mubarak is trying to keep democracy out especially since the USA gov is going to back the peoples relatively peaceful take over. I dont worry one iota about the Muslim extremists .. they are about as effectual as radical christians, which is to say they are a ineffectual ultra minority that most sane people hold at a distance.

Egypt will be our ally even more so ... free and open democracies are not enemies!
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OP3366
12:52 AM on 02/01/2011
And to think we couldn't get our young out to just vote in 2010.
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OP3366
12:48 AM on 02/01/2011
Forget the past. I, for one, am proud of the way our President and excellent Secretary of State have handled this difficult situation. Could you imagine the nonsense that would be spewing from McCain (or Palin's) mouth right now?
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06:39 PM on 01/31/2011
Hillary Clinton: Egypt Must Transition To Democracy
 
Translation: The US is going to drop his a$.s and install a "democratically elected" leader who is friendly to the interests of the US and Israel.
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01:40 PM on 02/01/2011
There will never be peace in that region if people use labels to divide themselves. Most of the Egyptian people are friendly to the USA & at least acknowledge Israel's right to exist. Indeed most people on this planet desire peace, justice & a connected international community - dont let the few radicals and bad actors ruin it for everyone else!
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StopThePlanet
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01:54 PM on 02/01/2011
What you said has nothing to do with what I said.  Nothing I said was against the people of Egypt.
03:44 PM on 01/31/2011
Israel is becoming a nation. http://nopolicestate.blogspot.com/2011/01/egypt_29.html
03:35 PM on 01/31/2011
ElBaradei is a Muslim Brotherhood stooge whether he knows it or not
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02:37 PM on 01/31/2011
Engaging in Realpolitik while preaching freedom and democracy has resulted in a century of hypocrisy in American foreign policy. We've overthrown democratically elected governments and supported dictators in Latin America, and replacing imperial powers, France in Vietnam and England in the Middle East, has compromised any claim that our intentions are benevolent. If we stick by Mubarak, it with be like the Shah of Iran all over again. Maybe it's inevitable that when the dictators go, Tunisia, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc. will have the same feelings for us as Iran does now!.
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ponderer
02:55 PM on 01/31/2011
Right you are. Of course, lots of folks don't even feel the need to murmur benevolently anymore. Caught a headline on MSNBC's money channel that said Democracy might not be good for business. Then some guy came on and said what 'we' want is for the army and security forces to take over and then hold elections sometime in the near future. Military coups are our friends, doncha know.
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richj45
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05:18 PM on 01/31/2011
The basis of our diplomacy is driven largely by corporate greed. If this was a small african nation undergoing a revolution it wouldn't make the front page of the times. If Haiti had oil reserves there would be new hospitals and no shotage of food supplies there..
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ponderer
01:54 PM on 01/31/2011
Our problem in advocating for genuine democracy abroad is the way we've allowed ideology to creep into the political realm here over the last 40+ years. JFK said no government funds should go to support religious institutions or schools and no religious leader or ecclesiastical body should have influence on government policy. We're a long way from that now, and the extent to which we support religious institutions, fund religious schools with tax dollars and allow religious groups and leaders to shape policies undermines our ability to non-religious democracy movements around the globe.
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01:24 PM on 01/31/2011
Thanks for the insight Hillary. I intend no sexism, but isn't this like a candidate at a beauty pageant expressing her desire for world peace?
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01:51 PM on 01/31/2011
You "intend no sexism"....right. I doubt that you would have made the same comment if the Sec. of State was a male.
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03:06 PM on 01/31/2011
Oops. OK. Let me say that Obama's statements have struck me in the same way as those by the Secretary of State, Hillary Rodham Clinton. I realized after I punched the post button that I should have included the President in my remarks. I assure you the gender of the Secretary of State is of no concern to me and has no relevance in this matter.
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OP3366
12:51 AM on 02/01/2011
She is the Secretary of State of a nation -- like it or not - with a giant economy, a ridiculous dependence on oil, soldiers all over that part of the world, and a massive military and nuclear footprint. As a diplomat right now I give her an A.
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hulagirrrl
01:13 PM on 01/31/2011
If you go to facebook and just look how fast these young people are organizing, considering all the interventions by government and censorships, it is pretty amazing. I guess Mubarak felt safe because the world kept looking the other way when he violated human rights. They looked the other way for the sake of "stability" in the region. What a shocker it must be for Ms. Clinton and her people to see that the one third of the 80 million Egyptians who are aged 15 to 29 and never knew any other political system besides this 82 year old dictator, well they are tired of him. Great to see that human spirit, in the end people can't be kept down forever.
04:52 PM on 01/31/2011
I don't understand this false alchemy of creating stability by keeping populations under financial and physical threat.
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hulagirrrl
07:08 PM on 01/31/2011
More and more it is becoming clear that it is not working either. But for the longest they did not care how he kept his people in line as long as he did. Oh well, now the people are tired, wonder how it all will turn out.
11:45 AM on 01/31/2011
In America, political protesters are beaten, arrested, silenced. If the protest even makes the news, it won't include the protester's point of view.

People who are crushed by poverty and the realization of their own uselessness are abusing drugs, committing crimes, and killing themselves. These responses are blamed on the individual.

Social welfare programs help to keep the poor docile. Since we now make the working class pay for the programs, it is easy to make them blame the poor. Our government is currently working on ways to take away the safety net for the poor, and they are trying to figure out how dangerous that might be. Egypt is a lab experiment for America. Whatever happens there, it won't be because our leaders care about the rights of the Egyptian people. The question for the powers that be is: how to get them under control as cheaply as possible, without giving the world's disenfranchised too much courage.
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01:25 PM on 01/31/2011
Well stated, and fanned.
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01:53 PM on 01/31/2011
?? I have been part of political protests since the 1960's and have never been beaten, arrested or silenced. But neither have I broken windows, vandalized others' property or looted from stores to express my point of view. Maybe that's the difference.
02:38 PM on 01/31/2011
I respect your activism. However, I find it curious that you would assert that your own personal experience is the only evidence you need to make a judgment. You could do a little research and find out about the experience of others. I think if you study the history of riots in America, and look at the protest movements here, you will see a different picture than the one you have put forth.
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richj45
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05:28 PM on 01/31/2011
During the 2008 republican convention in NYC Guiliani had hundreds of protesters arrested and held without charges.. You were fortunate because beatings and arrests still happen in the states
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Dan Stewart
11:20 AM on 01/31/2011
Clinton's tepid remarks can be best understood in the context of Israel's interests -- at which point it makes complete sense and is quite unremarkable.
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hulagirrrl
01:16 PM on 01/31/2011
It's all about Israel in this picture. Egypt promised some stability.
04:55 PM on 01/31/2011
Bingo.
11:09 AM on 01/31/2011
all nations will turn their backs on Israel
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StopThePlanet
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06:44 PM on 01/31/2011
Until their bad behavior is not subsidized and they have to get along with their neighbors like everyone else.