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What Does It Mean To Be An 'Ex-Christian'?

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First Posted: 02/01/11 06:55 PM ET Updated: 05/25/11 07:30 PM ET

By Greg Richter
Religion News Service

(RNS) Drew Dyck didn't lose the Christian faith of his childhood when he became an adult, but he noticed that lots of others did.

Dyck, an editor of online publications for Christianity Today, talked to some of those who've left the faith for his recent book, Generation Ex-Christian: Why Young Adults Are Leaving the Faith ... and How to Bring Them Back.

(Some answers have been edited for length and clarity.)

Q: What prompted you to write about ex-Christians?

A: My friends began leaving the faith. The first was a friend from high school. We had grown up in the church; both of our fathers were pastors. A few years after high school he informed me that he was no longer a Christian. That got my attention. As I moved through my 20s, I
witnessed other friends "de-convert." I realized that these experiences were not unique.

Q: Are a lot of young people really leaving the faith? Won't they just come back when they're older?

A: The answer to the first question is "yes." In the 2009 American Religious Identification Survey, 18- to 29-year-olds were found to be the least religious age group: 22 percent claimed "no religion." That was up 11 percent from 1990.

Whether or not they will return is where the scholarly consensus breaks down. Some view the exodus from the church as a hiatus, a matter of young Americans "slapping the snooze" on Sunday mornings. They see the trend as a reversible life-phase phenomenon. I'm not so sure.

Q: What's the main reason they give for leaving?

A: Most cited intellectual doubts, but there's often more to the story. One young woman had attended a prominent Christian college, where she'd suffered a mental breakdown after feeling ostracized by the community and betrayed by Christian friends. But it was only in subsequent years that she constructed her elaborate system of doubt. Her intellectual doubts may have prevented her from returning to Christianity, but they were almost certainly not the reason she left in the first place.

My challenge was to watch for those underlying experiences that often push people from the faith. It sounds more credible to say you left on intellectual grounds. But more often, the head follows the heart.

Q: What interesting things did you learn during the interviews?

A: I encountered some surprising signs of spiritual life. In the interviews, I asked the ex-Christians whether they ever still prayed. Most still did pray. They were angry, conflicted prayers, but beautiful in their honesty and desperation: "God, where are you? Can you hear me? Do you exist? Do you even care about me? I miss you."

Q: You have some interesting categories of unbelievers in your book: Can you explain what these terms mean?

A: No two "leavers" are exactly the same, but some patterns did emerge.

Postmodern leavers reject Christianity because of its exclusive truth claims and moral absolutes. For them, Christian faith is just too narrow.

"Recoilers" leave because they were hurt in the church. They suffered some form of abuse at the hands of someone they saw as a spiritual authority. God was guilty by association.

"Modernists" completely reject supernatural claims. God is a delusion. Any truth beyond science is dismissed as superstition.

"Neo-pagans" refers to those who left for earth-based religions such as Wicca. Not all actually cast spells or participate in pagan rituals, but they deny a transcendent God, and see earth as the locus of true spirituality.

"Spiritual Rebels" flee the faith to indulge in behavior that conflicted with their faith. They also value autonomy and don't want anyone -- especially a superintending deity -- telling them what to do.

"Drifters" do not suffer intellectual crises or consciously leave the faith; they simply drift away. Over time God becomes less and less important until one day he's no longer part of their lives.

Q: Has the church played a role in causing this trend? If so, how can it stem the tide?

A: Over the past couple of decades, business thinking has affected the way many churches minister to youth. The goal has become attracting large numbers of kids and keeping them entertained. Church researcher Ed Stetzer describes most youth groups as "holding tanks with pizza."

There's nothing wrong with video games and pizza, but they're tragic replacements for discipleship and catechism. Many young people have been exposed to a superficial form of Christianity that effectively inoculates them against authentic faith.

Q: What role does contemporary American culture play?

A: A lot of Christians fear the corrupting influence of "the world," but when it comes to the spiritual plights of young people, what happens inside the church matters most. Even for those lured away by alternative spiritualities such as Wicca, their "de-conversions" were precipitated by what happened inside rather than outside the church. In other words, it was more push than pull.

Q: You're a part of the generation you're writing about. What is different about those such as yourself who didn't leave?

A: Young people who have meaningful relationships with older Christians are much more likely to retain their faith into adulthood. I had those connections, and have no doubt they were instrumental in my life. I also sought out the intellectual resources to understand and
defend my faith. But I don't give myself too much credit.

The difference between me and my friends who I now describe as "ex-Christians" may be a matter of degree, rather than kind. We all have the tendency to stray. But God, in his mercy, keeps drawing me back.

Greg Richter writes for The Birmingham News in Birmingham, Ala.

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07:58 PM on 02/17/2011
I would like to quote a post I saw earlier this evening here on "Huff." It fits herein quite nicely: "No god, know peace."
10:38 AM on 02/08/2011
I increasingly question whether I am a Christian, not because I reject the teachings of Christ, but because of the fact that the religion has been hijacked and distorted by conservative fanatics who seem to value Old Testament values of punishment, hate and blind obedience to archaic customs above Christ's messages of love and forgiveness.
12:04 AM on 02/11/2011
I was brought up in a 'christian' home and as I became educated, I realized that religion was no longer going to be prominent in my life, even though, I had to take a lot of guff from my several siblings and father.

I so understand what Anne Rice meant when she officially renounced Christianity saying, " ... that she is "an outsider" in the Christian community..." and, "I refuse to be anti-gay. I refuse to be anti-feminist. I refuse to be anti-artificial birth control. I refuse to be anti-Democrat. I refuse to be anti-secular humanism. I refuse to be anti-science. I refuse to be anti-life."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/07/29/anne-rice-i-quit-being-a_n_663915.html

I felt alone, like a fish out of water, but, through the years, found the freedom not to be bound by "christian" ideals. I found liberty and that one may be kind, ethical and non-judgmental and be secular.
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Duane7
I'm left of Karl... Marx not Rove.
06:03 PM on 02/05/2011
I took up Buddhism as a philosophy at age 13 and began worshipping the FSM at age 45. May his noodley appendage touch you. http://www.veganaza.org . May the great pasta in the sky find you and hit you with his sauce.

All kidding aside. I was a member of the catholic church and found the hypocrisy too much to take. I turned to Buddhism and found the teachings of the Buddha much more in tune to reality. I was amazed at how many of the teachings of the Buddha that Christ had taken as his own. Coming 500 years after Buddha it is understandable that Christ saw the value of the ideas of the Buddha. (I still like the idea of the FSM. It answers the mystery of where all the Italian restaurants came from.)
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ninetailedfox
banning people.....so childish
05:49 PM on 02/05/2011
many christians like to say if you deconvert, you were never a christian to begin with. Not only is this presumtuous (rude and condescending) Its also untrue. The bible said Seek and Ye shall find, Well I sought very hard, and christianity wasnt for me. As for christians putting us non christians back in the sheep pen, That is another issue, that is not their place, and need I remind them God is the final judge, what gives them the right to evangelize to someone that has already tried done their best, and had enough? Christian persecution is a joke, they cast the first stone at every turn, might I add.
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Pembrokelib
04:56 PM on 02/05/2011
In listing the categories you forgot to mention those who left because they
Are people of intelligence with the ability to reason. The rationales to back
Up all religious belief make no sense whatsoever.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
11:55 AM on 02/05/2011
When this interview came up *last* time it was much pointed out how generally-­disrespect­ful this is of other religious paths, or even, in fact, the notion that anyone raised Christian could *possibly* have simply never have 'believed' it in the first place, never mind had completely *different­* spiritual experience­s than are contained by Christiani­ty's exclusivis­t claims:

The idea that some people constitute 'lapsed' or even 'ex' Christians really depends on putting a lot of claims on a lot of people who simply were forced to appear to be Christians when, for instance, underaged or under social pressure, and never looked back when they weren't.

This also repeats the untruth that 'Pagans and Wiccans reject a transcende­nt God.' While Earth may be the *center* of most Pagans' spiritual practices and interactio­ns, it's a false claim, particular­ly in Wicca's case, that the Gods are not also transcende­nt: this simply doesn't mean *removed and alienated/­separated from the world.* Also repeats the general notion that Neopagans are 'luring good Christian kids away from the Christiani­ty they'd otherwise have faith in.'

Wouldn't say so, actually. This is just the self-servi­ng (and denial-bas­ed) notion that Christiani­ty is the only true religion and that whether or not 'bad eggs' are involved, something must be wrong with anyone who leaves it.

Of course, it leaves out entirely just about every *other* religion in the world, too. Maybe, some people really do just find something better for them. Maybe there's many paths.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
12:01 PM on 02/05/2011
(Sorry about the repeat post, there. I'd planned to elaborate on a couple points, namely, in light of discussions below, how this generally-disrespectful attitude from Christianity toward other paths in fact puts Christianity in the position of constantly being shown to be *not telling the truth* while on the other hand insisting people sacrifice themselves to obedience to doctrines 'on faith.' Would you trust known liars with obvious ulterior motives ...with your life and even soul... never mind your government, about unverifiable claims? )
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ninetailedfox
banning people.....so childish
05:52 PM on 02/05/2011
I love this! Id F & F you again if I didnt already. I know i come off as hateful, but that is because of my experiences. Most christians that ive come across have abused me in one way or another, so Id rather not make friends with or bother with them again.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
08:38 PM on 02/05/2011
Well, if you don't mind my saying so, sometimes you do come off a bit like you're flailing. I think what you really sound like is someone who's been hurt and is still trying to make it come out all right. Lady knows I've seen a lot of kids in much the same situation, but don't hang yourself on places like this as though it's necessary to 'win' something for your own spirit, by arguing here as though it's going to change what abusive people do. Saying you've been hurt too much is just so much blood in the water to those types.

It may be a good thing to 'cut the cord,' find your own feet, remember, certainly that these people *do not own 'religion' or the Gods, or you,* and consider what the Goddess has to say about not sacrificing yourself, particularly not about stuff like this.

She's still there, whether these people are there, or *not.* Remember that. Yes, the politics are pretty troubling right now, but sometimes your first duty is to *heal.* Every free person out here, well, there's no argument about it, it 'proves them wrong' with every breath.

Pagan religion isn't a *war,* remember. And these Christians may not be as 'good' as their talk, but they aren't as 'bad' as their talk, either. Just humans. Best to greet them unafraid, and for that, look to your own freedom. That might well take walking away a while. You don't owe. :)
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french queen13
my beloved is mine and I am his
12:18 AM on 02/05/2011
And Christianity Today is just another bunch of evangelicals - which says all one needs to know about this pastor and his opinions.
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Joel Mendez
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08:56 PM on 02/04/2011
wow drew, I'm glad you've got us all pegged. where would we be w/o you? did it ever occur to you that some people leave the church because the dogma is ridiculous--or in your parlance, 'too narrow'? nice euphemism for ridiculous though. keep redefining terms, it's the hallmark of indefensible claptrap.
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07:34 PM on 02/04/2011
Oh please. There is no more justification for believing in the christian deity than there is for believing in Thor.
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Joel Mendez
actual atheist reverend
08:53 PM on 02/04/2011
thank you.
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ninetailedfox
banning people.....so childish
05:56 PM on 02/05/2011
At least Thor believers dont threaten atheists with Valhalla;)
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
08:45 PM on 02/05/2011
Hrm. Atheists in Valhalla. I always wondered what was supposed to start all the fights there. ;)
07:53 PM on 02/06/2011
Isn't Valhalla is for the honored dead?
06:38 PM on 02/04/2011
There doesn't seem to be any discussion of people who leave Christianity for another religion, as I did when I converted to Buddhism. I know many people who have had authentic conversions to other religions--in other words, the other religion simply was better for them. 13 years after my conversion I am deeply at peace. There's no "going back", and I haven't "strayed". The ethnocentric narcissism of most Christian churches simply prevents their members from being able to wrap their brains around this idea. Hence the desire to herd, control and recruit non-believers..... it just never ends.
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Joel Mendez
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08:58 PM on 02/04/2011
what i love is that, as an atheist, i have to come to the realization that 'i'm just mad at god'--as if I'm simply to intellectually impoverished to come to the conclusion that xtianity, as it is practiced today, is simply an abomination.
11:06 PM on 02/04/2011
f&f.
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french queen13
my beloved is mine and I am his
12:14 AM on 02/05/2011
I suppose this pastor would say you were just "lured away by alternative spiritualities"!
12:01 AM on 02/06/2011
Yes, because his mythic-membership type of religious belief can't admit the validity of other faiths. This type of Christian simply can't view any other religion as anything other than false teachings.
06:23 PM on 02/04/2011
Christians need to teach their children that the community is as important as faith. Not because they are better, but because they will be disenfranchised completely by other religions that maintain community outside of belief.
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Ioan Lightoller
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06:36 PM on 02/04/2011
Crying persecution again? Christians are not disenfranchised by other religion. The tendency seems to be the other way round.
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Joel Mendez
actual atheist reverend
08:59 PM on 02/04/2011
nevermind the fact that the abrahamic faiths literally control the entire world, and all its wealth. but yeah, we're persecuting them.
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04:28 PM on 02/04/2011
It is fortunate that there are no "ex-Chrisitans"

1Jo 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not really of us; for if they had been of us, they would have remained with us; but they went out, so that it would be shown that they all are not of us.

2nd Peter 2:20 - "For, if after they have escaped the defilements of this world, through the redeeming knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they again get entangled and are overcome by them, their final state is much worse than their initial state. For it would have been much better for them, not to have partaken of the way of righteousness, than to have turned away from the holy commandment given to them. It has happened to them according to the proverb: A DOG returns to ITS OWN VOMIT, and a SOW after WASHING, returns to wallowing in the mire."

"To him [Jesus] the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice; and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out. And when he brings out his own sheep, he goes before them; and the sheep follow him, for they know his voice. Yet they will by no means follow a stranger, but will flee from him, for they do not know the voice of strangers." (John 10:3-6)

It goes on and on.
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Ioan Lightoller
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06:23 PM on 02/04/2011
Yes, yes, so you can continue to claim that no one leaves your cult. I was a very religious Christian but left it consciously to become a Pagan and a son of the God and Goddess. I was Christian and now I am not. Too bad that you choose not to believe reality.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
11:48 AM on 02/05/2011
So, by that logic, what makes you think there's really any such thing as an 'Ex-Pagan?'

Or that it's a good thing to try and 'convert the world' regardless of how little actual credibility or integrity Christianity's shown? :)
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05:08 PM on 02/09/2011
See reply to Jim for explaination of the concept of ex-Christian. Also you will get Biblical explainations on the idea of "convert the world" and false prophets in Christianity. :-)
ThinkCreeps
Seriously, it's time.
04:06 PM on 02/04/2011
That your bulb has made it up to half-past dimness?
02:37 PM on 02/04/2011
At age 6 I stopped believing in the Easter Bunny, at age 8 Santa Clause, and at age 12 - God.
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hempster
Let it be said, let it be written, let it be done.
03:58 PM on 02/04/2011
Oh golly. At first look I saw 61 and reference to the Easter bunny and immediately said me too!
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Joel Mendez
actual atheist reverend
09:01 PM on 02/04/2011
nah...you're just mad at god. all atheists are. i know i am--i am absolutely enraged at a thing i know for a fact doesn't exist.
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timm553
In vino veritas
12:26 AM on 02/05/2011
I'm an atheist, and Ifind it very difficult to be mad at something that doesn't exist.
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ChinaMurdoch
09:43 AM on 02/04/2011
What a shock - when as a youngster I left the home of my devout Christian mother and family and arrived in NYC, made friends with Jews, Budhists, Muslims, non believers - all - who according to my faith - were sure to go to hell.

Well, after a while that did not make sense, some of these friends believed in a god different from mine, why was their god less than mine? In college I tried to major in theology, upon learning that the bible - what I thought was the word of god - was basically decided upon at the council of Nicea - I knew that all doctrines and phantasy constructs called religion were not any better or more enlightened than any pagan beliefs and rites.

My mother's values are still with me, the doctrines are gladly shed.
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LintLass
"When you can balance a tackhammer on your head...
11:38 AM on 02/05/2011
Maybe if these people are so often wrong/lying about so many other things, you shouldn't believe them when they say how 'unenlightened' Pagan beliefs 'were.'
09:16 PM on 02/11/2011
The "Bible" was NOT decided at the Council of Nicea. What was decided at the Council of Nicea was the teaching that Jesus is of one substance with the Father. There WAS no Bible in 325, in the sense that there is today....just several collections of writings containing some of the writings that are today called "The Bible." The Canon of Scripture was set in the West at the local Synods of Hippo and Carthage in 393 and 397 respectively. The Canon of Scripture (what is called "The Bible") was not set for the Church as a WHOLE until the Council of Ephesus in 431 A.D. (C.E.). At THAT time, a Canon of Scripture was set that included the so-called Deutero-Canonica or "Apocrypha," as this was the "Bible" Jesus and the Apostles used, and our modern New Testament. During the Protestant Reformation "The Bible" was gutted of anything the "Reformers" didn't like, producing the disemboweled Protestant Bible of today. Early Christians and faithful modern Christians (Orthodox) don't ask if something is "Biblical." They ask if it is Apostolic. The Church thrived and grew for 400 years WITHOUT a "Bible."